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Tcla75

Since you have recently been on List of serial killers by country, could you possibly take some action against editor Tcla75? This editor has commited any number of violations of Wikipedia policy over the last week. Firstly this editor accused me of vandalism for a good faith edit. When I requested an apologythis editor reiterated the accusation of vandalism when I was simply upholding the consensus. I know we should not read too much into past behaviour, but this editor vandalised Wikipedia as recently as 8 June 2010. I have never vandalised Wikipedia, and it is very difficult to keep cool when subjected to such an uncivil personal attack. Therefore I will not engage in any further discussion with them. In any event, you explained things on the talkpage. Nevertheless this editor has engaged as an edit warrior against several other editors who have formed a consensus. I believe there is also a neutrality issue at stake here given the wording of the entry. Your help would be appreciated. Pistachio disguisey (talk) 14:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am not an admin so I am afraid that I cannot take any action. I have attempted to engage them in discussion on the talk page but to no avail. WP:EAR or even WP:ANI is probably the next option. – ukexpat (talk) 14:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hope the original poster meant that you were "editing" List of serial killers by country, not that you were "listed" on there. TNXMan 02:07, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE January Backlog elimination drive conclusion

Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 Backlog elimination drive

Greetings from the January 2011 Backlog elimination drive! We have reached the end of the month and the end of another successful drive; thanks to all who participated.

Statistics
  • 54 people signed up for the year's first Backlog elimination drive. Of these, 40 participated.
  • One of our goals was to reduce the size of the backlog by at least 10%. We managed to reduce the backlog by 633 articles, or about 12%.
  • Another goal was to eliminate as many 2009 months as possible from the queue. We eliminated January, February, March, and April—4 out of 12 months is not bad! In addition, we eliminated 37% of all remaining 2009 articles from the queue.
  • Chaosdruid copy edited Kutch Gurjar Kashtriya for 32,711 words, which is the largest single article completed in one of our drives so far. This article counts as six 5000-K articles, and Chaosdruid wins the "most 5000-K articles" leaderboard category. Way to go! A complete list of individual results is here.
Barnstars

If you copy edited at least 4,000 words, you qualify for a barnstar. If you participated in the November 2010 Backlog elimination drive, you may have earned roll-over words (more details can be found here). These roll-over words count as credit towards earning barnstars, except for leaderboard awards. We will be delivering the barnstars within the next couple of weeks.

Thank you for participating in this year's first Backlog elimination drive! We hope to see you in March.

Your drive coordinators –S Masters (talk), Diannaa (talk), The Utahraptor (talk), and Tea with toast (talk)

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors at 15:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC).[reply]

D'Jais

Can you give your opinion at [1]? Thanks. EEng (talk) 13:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 7 February 2011

UPDATE USERPAGE

Hi, thank you for your feedback. I'm (obviously) new to this! I updated the page, so please let me know if there are further changes that should be made. Hnaj 15:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hnaj (talkcontribs)

I am still not convinced about notability and it looks a little spammy to me, but I will move it to mainspace for you if you wish. – ukexpat (talk) 16:17, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I will continue to work on the notability too. --Hnaj 15:12, 9 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hnaj (talkcontribs)

National Analysts Worldwide

Thanks for your message, Ukexpat. I believe I was completely neutral and cited venerable sources for your reference. Please explain, what is the status of my edits/corrections?

Best,

Patricia Green — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patriciagreen (talkcontribs) 21:12, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message, Ukexpat. I believe I was completely neutral and cited venerable sources for your reference. Please explain, what is the status of my edits/corrections?

Best,

Patricia GreenNational Analysts Worldwide 21:14, 8 February 2011 (UTC)--National Analysts Worldwide 21:14, 8 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patriciagreen (talkcontribs)

Your edits have been reverted because you did not cite any sources. Please use the article's talk page to suggest changes and provide sources in support.--ukexpat (talk) 21:19, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

West Point cadet sword

Hi,

I have been edited, I'm unsure of the correction that you have made. Would you please email so we can talk.

Thanks

Andy2159 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy2159 (talkcontribs) 23:18, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to discuss my changes here or on the article's talk page. You can see the article's edit history, including my edits, on this page. – ukexpat (talk) 01:18, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

West Point sword

I do not understand who controls the article, I wrote it edited and reedited Put photo's up. and reedited it again. While other folks had made corrections to it 98% of the words on the page are mine.

So when someone changes it and I correct it to what I know is true, it gets deleted. Yes I would like to have my changes reinstalled, because there correct in fact, not because I have an ego. I just want the data corrected.

I might add that I have had the folks at West Point and the Springfield Armory looking it over since I started this article, and the have been very helpful to me in correcting ant errors.

Please tell me what I have do or what is the problem with my changes or why the facts are being removed when then are true..........

Thanks

Andy2159 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy2159 (talkcontribs) 12:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Andy, no one owns or controls an article. A basic tenet of Wikipedia is that anyone can edit it. When you create a new article or edit an existing article, there is text below the edit window that says: If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here.
Now, all edits must comply with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and can be reverted if they do not, so to that extent there is some control over content, but no one can dictate the contents of an article that is otherwise in compliance with policies and guidelines - we work by consensus. Hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any more questions. – ukexpat (talk) 14:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have made changes I put up references.

I can quote Todd and Peterson, I've had help from the Springfield Amory and the Amory at West Point

I also talked to the cadet store and they said that the word saber is perfered by cadets but sword is also asked for. Even if it is a sword. 2 weeks ago the academy had a meeting with the WD4 and is going to change the design and call it a cadet saber this change will happen before the last saber is issued this or next year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy2159 (contribs) 15:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC) --Andy2159 (talk) 15:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC) Please do you know the difference between a sword and a saber there is on? Andy2159 --Andy2159 (talk) 15:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All interesting stuff but you should not add any of it to the article unless you can support it by citing reliable sources. Discussions with the Armories and the cadet store are not reliable as they cannot be verified. I will take a look at the artcle later today if I have time. – ukexpat (talk) 15:42, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

With all due regards

The previous move was not discussed[2]-I returned the page to original version before the undiscussed move and asked the mover to discuss the move first. I would kindly ask you to restore to original version. I am all for discussion but you got the situation wrong.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 01:57, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please take this to the talk page via a requested move proposal. – ukexpat (talk) 02:00, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, it should be the user who made the undiscussed move that should move the page via WP:RM, I am actually restoring it to orignal version before its change without discussion. Again you are getting this completely wrong, don't you understand? Why should I take restoration to original name of the article to WP:RM while the other user moved the name to different one without any WP:RM at all and his revert is restored? I think you got confused here. --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 02:03, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That move was in March 2010 - after stability at that title since then, a talk page discussion is the way to proceed, IMHO. – ukexpat (talk) 02:14, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I only noticed the change today. There is no rule that errors and controversial moves become legit because they weren't spotted right away. If the author of the undiscussed move wants to discuss changing it, I am all for it. As it was not discussed I will change it back to original form-there is simply no reason that returning to original stable for 7 years version must be discussed while a controversial move made without discussion less than a year ago will stay because it wasn't discovered right away.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 02:18, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever... I have more important things to do. – ukexpat (talk) 02:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok.Have a good day then.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 02:53, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

riversdale tom... kit barker

Many thanks for your useful comments. All this seems rather complex & as I am already short of time to do the things I am supposed to be doing....... I think I will have to abandon the project of the Kit Barker page.

If you know any other route I could explore rather than trying to figure out the seeminly endless complexities of Wikipedia, please let me know. Best regards. Tom 87.113.253.40 (talk) 16:14, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Mooringboats

I was Mooringboats, but my password wasn't working, so I abandoned that username. If there's a way to delete that username, please let me know and I will delete it. Mooringanchor (talk) 19:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stub template edits

Hello, Ukexpat. You have new messages at Dawynn's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Where? I don't see it... – ukexpat (talk) 03:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry - my bad. Now I've added comments. Dawynn (talk) 10:47, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

confused!!

Again - I still do not understand why the article for William Jesse Ramey is flagged for Deletion.

"article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia"

I show that he has been in several museum exhibits - been written about in several books and mentioned in several articles. I even included direct quotes to show that he was influential to even the most famous of all decoy carvers and helped invent a specific style of fish decoys. I'm trying to track down a couple of other leads because I have other Fish Decoy experts who believe he has pieces in the Smithsonian and the Folk Art museum (but I don't have proof). I don't know what else is desired to show that he is significant to the art form. ( The amount of info is significantly more than any other "Folk Artist" I have seen on Wikipedia!!!)

Please tell me what more you think needs to be stated.

As far as the Oscar W Peterson article - I did write it first as a userpage. I did use references (there are 4 of them), but I also used quotes(3 of them) to reinforce the statements made in the article. I thought this was the proper way to show that the material actually came from secondary sources since much of the info deals with "subjective" information - such as his importance and the abstractness of his carvings - - rather than expressing my personal opinion.

If you would rather I remove the quotes, I can, but it would mean that I would simply be paraphrasing what has already been written. (And frankly in some cases they wrote it better than I think I could!!)

I don't mean to sound difficult - but I guess I'm getting frustrated because I simply do not understand what you are looking for.

Birdfarmer (talk) 23:49, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

William Jesse Ramey is not flagged for deletion, I removed the original deletion template and tagged it with a notability template because I think it needs more references to establish notability per the guidelines at WP:BIO. If you turn some of the direct quotations into citations, that should do it. On that issue, one short quotation in an article of this length is probably OK, the others should be citations.
Sorry for my misunderstanding as to how you created Oscar W. Peterson. Again, turn the direct quotations into citations and there should be no problems. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 03:41, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

editing citations

re: User:RoslynSKP/1st Transjordan attack on Amman I've had a go at editing the citations in the lead section of this article and got in a right mess - fortunately only in 'preview'. The first citation's cite book source, was added with the page number into the text and a couple more in the lead section were also done this way. But in preview the rest of the citations disappeared and some text moved into the citation area along with the bibliography. After suitably celebrating my use of the 'Show preview' button I decided to try to emulate the Chaco Culture National Historical Park citation style using [1] This was ok so long as I didn't try [2] Name & year</ref>. So far there is one harvnb template citation and the source in the bibliography has had the citation template added but although it looks like a link it doesn't function.

Could you possibly give me a very simple guide (for idiots) how to go about improving the citations in this article? --Rskp (talk) 05:41, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Kaveh Farrokh

Please read my last comment in this Rfc. Is wikipedia a dealing company ?!!! Now that I have discovered it, the author should have his own article. *** in fact *** ( contact ) 11:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure why you are asking me about this... – ukexpat (talk) 13:58, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was asking you to comment. No need to do so. I just quit the discussion. Thanks anyway. *** in fact *** ( contact ) 14:55, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I got that, but why ask me? – ukexpat (talk) 14:57, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Simply because you are active in BLP issues. Best wishes, *** in fact *** ( contact ) 15:40, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ILC Dover

Thank you for the formatting help and comments.Hal Word (talk) 15:52, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Name & year
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference Name_year_page# was invoked but never defined (see the help page).