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Elektron Alloy

Hi! So what are we going to do about the elektron alloy(s)? I believe this material exists just like coca-cola :-) What should I do to keep it there? Have a nice day. Twisp

(Response on user's page)

Washington Mutual revenue data

Well I always use Yahoo Finance for my data and not Yahoo biz. Yahoo finance here is the data I used. I haven't been able to reproduce this data anywhere else. The data you found I have been able to reproduce in many sources. For the time being I will put your data until i can find out how Yahoo Finance came up with 18.960B. — oo64eva (Alex) (U | T | C) @ 14:55, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Quite odd. A billion here, a billion there ... pretty soon we're talking about real money. Monkeyman 15:11, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Please explain

Please explain this edit: rv edits by Pedant Pedant 2005 June 30 18:29 (UTC)

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Thanks for your reply. Actually the Wal-Mart Superstore and the Pyramid of the Moon are both visible from the Wal-Mart parking lot, from the top of the pyramid, and from several other locations. It actually is located an easy walk from the Pyramid in other words. It's right outside the area that the United Nations' chief cultural agency, UNESCO, declared a World Heritage Site, and the construction had to be approved by Mexico's National Institute for Archaeology before permits were issued.

Even so, an altar was discovered one foot underneath the parking lot during construction, excavated and conserved on-site. Wal-Mart had to plant tall shrubbery to attempt to conceal the store... basically it is right next door, closer than my next-door neighbors were at the last place I lived. I reinserted the picture to the criticism section of Wal-Mart with a caption like 'is within easy walking distance' from the superstore, I don't think thats inaccurate or uncharitable, it may imply "convenience" to some. If you like, please make appropriate changes to the caption. If you are interested, this link is a link to a google of Walmart Teotihuacan. I welcome any comment you may have... thanks for taking the time.Pedant 2005 June 30 23:26 (UTC)

Thanks, I had tried to find an exact distance between the 2 locations, I really do appreciate you digging out the information and being so civil and diligent with respect to a 'minor' detail. Great wikipediation on your part. Cheers! Thanks for your contributions in general too. Pedant 18:51, 2005 July 19 (UTC)

Newspaper

Hi, there. I didn't delete the pic; I just lowered it a couple of paras to balance the ToC. But you're right, I should have explained that in the edit summary. I'll try to be more assiduous about that. Hajor 12:57, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Henry Quotes

Sorry, but I think you accidentally mistook my IP for that of a vandal. My edits on the Patrick Henry page are correct, check them out. --TheGrza 02:39, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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please sign comments

Even if it's just a test template, it's helpful to know who left it and what time it was left. Thanks! FreplySpang (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of Richmond Mayors

I think we were both editing this article at the same time. I don't mean to hack you off or anything but I wanted to hit save so I didn't ;lose all my work. Feel free to revert or do what you need to do to preserve your work and my content. Peace, MPS 15:50, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Curious.

You wouldn't happen to be Don the Monkeyman from Rinkworks, would you?

(Rinkie) ---> Hbackman 01:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx

I remember that link working 1ce ;D ! 68.39.174.238 01:20, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please, do not delete my entries

Dear Monkeyman,

please, take a second to take a look at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GraemeL#Why_my_external_links_are_blocked.3F . This is my point of view and seems, that GraemeL agrees with it. So, please, do not delete links (actually there is only one link) to mortgage-site-tools.com .

Thank you, WBW, Ivan.

Directed user to wikipedia policy: Wikipedia:Spam
Adding the same link to many articles. The first person who notices you doing this will go through all your recent contributions with an itchy trigger finger on the revert button. And that's not very much fun. Monkeyman 13:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Actually, there is NO spam. I have placed ONE link and you have reverted it twice.

Hi, I believe that worldtimezone.com web site links are appropriate links and very useful for people around the World.

Directed user to wikipedia policy: Wikipedia:Spam
Adding the same link to many articles. The first person who notices you doing this will go through all your recent contributions with an itchy trigger finger on the revert button. And that's not very much fun. Monkeyman 16:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your advise. Yes, web site has ads- same as for example, CNN, MSNBC .... however the content and presentation of web site is very unique and worth to share with others ... Leave at least 1-2 links- on your consideration and let me know.

Re: Slashdot

Hi there.

I know about just editing the text. It was a vague attempt for an in-joke, in reference to the "^H^H^H^H" section slightly above the Poll section, which I edited. Lame attempt on my behalf. :)

thanks

what

i didn't edit bernie mac...?

Mmmmhhhhmmm

I really don't appreciate the fact that you consider my hard-worked-for information nonsense. 23:20, 4 February 2006 Mmmmhhhhmmm

I consider this nonsense. Amusing, but still nonsense.  :) Monkeyman 04:23, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad you think it's amuzing. Sorry. Amusing. 23:24, 4 February 2006 Mmmmhhhhmmm

re:Pet goat picture in GWB article

I am not sure when it got removed...it's inthe history but could be anywhere...I agree that it looks better now without it...happy editing.--MONGO 07:21, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

About the Virginia article

Is there anyway we could edit the "Regions of Virginia" section of the page to look more like the other states. So it would say "Commonwealth of Virginia" with government, history and etc. underneath? 17:48, 5 February 2006 Mahtanza (About the Virginia article)

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www.mortgage-site-tools.com

Actually, there is NO spam. I have placed ONE link and you have reverted it twice. 17:37, 5 February 2006 213.208.160.122 (→Please, do not delete my entries)

Although you may have placed this link only once, this particular link is repeatedly added to financial articles by anon users. The users who add this link typically add it to a dozen articles, one right after the other. This type of action does fit Wikipedia's definition of spam. Why not create an account here and discuss your reasons in favor of this link on the talk page? Monkeyman 22:56, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit comment line

Sure, I'll start writing a comment indicating what changes I made. Dullfig 17:33, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Virginia template - newer version

I assume that your thought is to replace the current template named Virginia which is positioned at the bottom of the article. If so, I think that the draft is better and would work well in this article. However, I believe the current template is also used in many other individual Virginia articles (ie various regions, counties, cities, etc.) and I am not sure how they would be impacted or how other contributors feel.

We could try and see if we pick up any objections to this somewhat larger and more informative version. Personally, I like the new one better. Those are my thoughts. Thanks for your work on it. Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia Vaoverland 21:38, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

David Duke

Hi. I've been involved in a number of article RfC's, and in all cases, the discussion focused on the talk page. If you want to discuss the issue, make a section on the talk page with examples. The current status of the actual article has no bearing on the RfC. —Viriditas | Talk 23:00, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies). See the section, "Honorifics and credentials". —Viriditas | Talk 23:43, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How would I become A professional bodybuilder?

I'm A Freshman In Ripley High School.I'm Fourteen,And I Lift Weights,And Bodybuilding Is My Life.I Have Searched The web A Million Times,And Hasn't Found Anything About What I would Have To Do To Get To A Professional Bodybuilder.Oh! By The Way My Name Is Arthur Watkins.I Beg You Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.Help Me.Thanks!

Directed user to wikipedia policy: Wikipedia:I Have No Idea I Just Remove Spam Links From The Body Building Article Monkeyman 02:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
*amused* User:Adrian/zap2.js 07:19, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Roland

I am glad to hear from you, Monkeyman. You are very welcome. --Roland 02:44, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

credit card interest page

Question: I see by the history that you are determined to be rid of one external link on the credit card interest page, yet it seems as relevant as the others. I'm a bit new to Wikipedia -- why is that link less worthy in your opinion? 11:18, 7 February 2006 64.24.224.39

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Prussian Blue

Hi there! Thanks for your message and advice. I haven't registered yet-- but it is on my list of things to do. Obviously I am new to Wikipedia, so I am still learning things. About the Talk page on Prussian Blue. My resource was Wikipedia's page in external links, which stated when they should be used and cautioned against using Wikipedia as a links farm. I will look at the other resource. I did in fact ask that there be some discussion on the Talk page, but the person who wants to use the page to promote Prussian Blue doesn't seem to be interested. He just says that he doesn't agree then reverts.I don't have any interest in going back and forth like this, so I really want to know what the procedure to solve situations like this. PB is a contentious and controversial page-- there are a lot of people who vandalize it regularly, both anti-racists and racists. A lot of good editors have been driven away as a result. If there is a way to formally request resolution (and if this is even appropriate) I would love to know. Thank you for your time! 38.2.108.125 17:10, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I forgot to put a title on my last message.
I have noticed for example that slowly all links that show the group in a critical light have been deleted-- to be repalced by five different "fan sites" and/or personal blogs kept by PB and their mother. This strikes me as promotional rather than encyclopedic. Anyway, it seems to be impossible to keep the page objective when fans sweep in every day to revert back what they don't like. 38.2.108.125 17:14, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply to my concerns regarding the Prusian Blue page. Frankly, I have given up on that page-- I don't think it is possible to keep it from being turned into a promotional page, and I agree that my time might be better spent elsewhere. Anyway, thanks for replying. 38.2.108.125 19:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't give up on Wikipedia just because it seems impossible to keep one article NPOV. When things get heated, I've found it helps to remove those links from your watch list for a few days. It helps things cool down and gives you a fresh viewpoint. There are a ton of good things going on at Wikipedia. It'd be a shame to lose you as an editor just because of one bad experience. So ... when are you going to sign up for that account???  :) Monkeyman(talk) 19:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I'm not giving up on Wikipedia! Just re-evaluating where I want to be active, and where I can be of most use. I definitely will be signing on for an account very soon. Overall, it has been a good experience, even where things sometimes get controversial. Thanks! 38.2.108.125 20:00, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Category:Non-Chinese known by Chinese names

Monkeyman: A few users proposed that this category be deleted. Although I am not the original creator of this catetory, I support this category. It is a useful and meaningful catetory. Would you like to show your support HERE? --Roland 02:33, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

re: Image

Lol no problem. Thanks for adding the new message link. Graham/pianoman87 talk 03:34, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spamming

Okay, Monkeyman. You are NOT going to defame me or my site. I was not spamming wickpedia!! Obviously someone (YOU?) kept deleting my site, which happens to be a not-for- profit depression website which is an extremely informative, supportive and peer related depression website. I had, nor do I have any idea whatsoever how wickpedia works. I just know that a member of ours posted quite awhile ago telling my moderators that she found us on wickpedia.... She had posted the url and surprise, surprise... there we were. I had NO idea how, when, or why. Back to now....*I* was just spammed by an extremist, terribly horrible group and so I came looking for information about it, then I went to look at the depression articles while I was here and found my site was not anywhere in sight. So I registered and submitted my url next to my other peers' websites on depression. Admittedly I was trying to find and keep my URL on there that someone, (I do not know who), had submitted months ago and I kept thinking that something on this site is really wrong or broken as the URL kept disappearing after continuously editing it.... Here it was YOU deleting it all that time! I have NO idea why you have targeted my site and kept on deleting it. Period. I am NOT a spammer. I have had my share of spammers as I did the other day and would not wish it on anyone! ick. Amazingly, you 'allow' such simular depression sites to add their URL? For example:

  • DepressioNet: board for depression sufferers.
  • Wing of Madness Forum - Message board and chat (They are listed on my portal)
  • BluePages
  • TrappedMinds.org
  • HealthyPlace.com

Thank you so much for excluding me amongst my 'peers' <smile> --Lindsay FL 07:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lindsay FL. The link to your site was being added to several articles by the same user and it was being added to two places within the same article. These were the only contributions this user was making. This pattern of edits is usually recognized as spam additions. Typically, contributors to wikipedia add more than just external links to multiple pages. After the links were removed the same behavior was repeated by new user Lindsay_FL. I left a message in my edit summary inviting you to discuss your external link on the talk page. Sorry I upset you, I'm just trying to keep wikipedia from being used as free advertising. Feel free to open a discussion on the talk page to have your link readded. Monkeyman 15:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

reverting Mnemonic page

I am curious as to why you reverted about three and half month's worth of edits in Mnemonic the other day. There were several good contributions to that page over that time and I see no reason to delete it all out (rather than manually going through and deleting unneeded information, for example). There may have been many needed edits that you thoughtlessly removed. I would simply revert your reversion, but I assume you have a reason and I would like to hear it first. Thanks.-Platypus Man | Talk 06:34, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Platypus222. That revert was a mistake on my part and I'm not sure how it happened. I went and set it back to version '00:09, 11 February 2006'. It's very strange, the October version wouldn't even have been available for me to select on the history page. Monkeyman 14:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I added back the edits from the last few days as well. Thanks for bringing this to my attention and also thanks for assuming good faith! Monkeyman 18:09, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shadow Mountain

Oh thank you for this edit. It made my night.  :) Monkeyman 02:44, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's just my way of keeping myself from going mad(der) when fighting large amounts of vandalism. Thanks! --Kizor 08:03, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Neurobiology of marketing mod.

Dude "The Neurobiology of marketing" has a topic of its own under Consumer behavior, see the following: -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_marketing_topics -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Neurobiology_of_marketing

Wikiman.

Not the usual site

Monkeyman: Take a look at my site. It is probably the biggest website about bankruptcy in the U.S. It contains hundreds of topics of interest to anyone exploring bankruptcy as an option. Commercial site, it is, but you look at it and tell me that the content does not way surpass in value the commercial aspect. Whatever you decide is fine. Thanks, Jorcutt 20:34, 16 February 2006 Jorcutt@nc.rr.com

Hi Jorcutt. We would love to have you as an editor with Wikipedia but we unfortunately cannot accept commercial links. Wikipedia articles are under constant barrage from advertisers and it's nearly impossible to keep the articles clean. Please consider using your bankruptcy expertise to improve the content of the article, we are sorely in need of specialists like yourself. Thanks! Monkeyman 01:45, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where did you park your TARDIS?

That's impressive! You remove links from Bankrupty, ask for comments, and I left a comment, and you said whoops sorry — but a full five minutes before my comment was stored, by my records!

Okay, the sensible answer is that you were replying to someone else, but hey, it'd be fun to imagine the other away around!

PS, you will probably get the other link restored by Seantyrer, see his talk page for my current discussion with him. I think the links are well intentioned (and to a non-proft site) but personally think they're somewhat over inserted, rather than pure spam, which is a pity as his text edits are very good. MartinRe 16:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

143.79.13.6

The user seems to a sneaky vandal. After your warning, there came a set of further edits on his part, which looked suspiciously like a sneaky vandalism for me, and coincided with several months old disguise tactics from the same IP. The signal to noise ratio from this contributor is near zero, and I would be happy to support a pretty harsh blocking. Note that the typical low-time blocks wouldn't help --- the edit history has pretty big gaps w/o any blocks imposed so far. Note that the vandalism by this user is neatly disguised and takes a long time to remove. Feel free to quote me if you push for a block; add the address on your contributions watchlist meanwhile... VMD, --BACbKA 20:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably a shared terminal. Whois shows:NS01.ARMY.MIL 52nd and Support Ave Bldg 13 Fort Huachuca AZ 85613-5000 US. I guess it's a slow day on the army base.  ;) Monkeyman 20:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you remove my External Link? http://www.consumermatch.com/blog/2006/02/blog-atom-rss-xml-and.html I don't know why Rodii deleted it and who Ric Romero is. Rodii (delete links to Ric Romero, SEO site) Our site is certainly no SEO Site. http://www.consumermatch.com/ We are a Shopping Portal The Post is intended for non-tech savvy people (what fits the description of the majority of our vistors). Did you check our Site? Our Blog and especially the comprehensive Artice about Blogs and RSS? Please let me know. Appreciated. Carsten Cumbrowski mailto: carsten@consumermatch.com The Entry I am talking about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog External Links Blog, Atom, RSS, XML and Syndication/Aggregation ! ? Blogs, ATOM, RSS explained (Essay) 16:28, 19 February 2006 71.195.125.110

Hi Carsten (71.195.125.110). We would love to have you as an editor with Wikipedia but we unfortunately cannot accept commercial and advertisers links. Wikipedia articles are under constant barrage from advertisers and it's nearly impossible to keep the articles clean. Please consider using your expertise to improve the content of the article, we are sorely in need of specialists like yourself. Thanks! Monkeyman 21:34, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up! rodii 21:50, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Monkeyman It's Carsten. I should have logged in :) I am referring to Anonymous User Talk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:71.195.125.110 (2/19/2006 2:50 pm PST) The Article is as much commercial as the Article at Wikipedia. Did you actually read it or was the fact that its posted on ConsumerMatch.com a Shopping Site? Or is it the Adsense Ad?
Please elaborate "commercial links", because I don't get it. The trigger of the Article was certainly the Syndication of RSS Feeds and the creation of our Weblog. If one of our partners can't make sense out of this new Technology then there must be a lot of our Visitors that have the same problem. The Article is not about maximizing sales at all? Not even as "hidden" message. (English is my second language but I did not know that it's that bad. I should have written it in german I guess). It's about Blogs and RSS and how they work and what to do with them. My Partner still visits dozens of News Websites directly because he does not know about RSS and Feed Aggregation etc. This Article is meant to be an eye opener and refers to things normal people (non-Geeks) can relate to. Should I add the Post to my Private Weblog which is not related to the whole thing at all and add that link to Wikipedia? http://www.cumbrowski.com/RoySAC/blog/ Oops, I link to a Commercial Site and also have an Adsense Ad on the Page. Should I do what Shopping.com, Priceline.com, Froogle or ShopWIki, Nextag and PriceGrabber did and add a whole new Article about ConsumerMatch.com to Wikipeda and point out there that we have a blog that also contains Useful Post to non-Shopping related things like explanations of new Technologies and buzzwords that seem spanish to joe everybody's? Let me know. Thanks Cumbrowski Carsten
I'm not sure what your question is. You posted a link to your site on the Blog article in order to drive up traffic and collect revenue on your advertising links. You have an "Advertise on this site" link where people can pay you to place ads. And you are selling things on http://www.consumermatch.com/. Are you asking me if it's ok to advertise your site on wikipedia? The answer is 'no, it is not ok to advertise your site on wikipedia', we have enough trouble keeping ads out of the articles. Also, Wikipedia already has articles on Blogs, Blogging, XML, ATOM, RSS ... why would the Blog article need your link. I'm sorry to sound so harsh here but you can imagine what articles would look like if we allowed anyone to post any link to any article. Monkeyman 23:37, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Aha. It's about the Google Ad. You know what... it bugged me anyway. I removed it for good. I guess it will be okay now to link to the Article or is the fact that the Article is located on a commercial domain already an issue? If so, does that mean, that I could provide the greatest free content without any sales pitch or any other "trick" to divert traffic and Wiki would not be able to link to it and thus not provide information hungry people with what they seek? Are you serious? I still don't think that you read the article and I also think that it would be a useful addition to the article at Wiki because it contains information and explainations that are mission in Wikis Article .... and THAT was the reason why I thought about adding it and then also did. This stupid paranoia that everybody with a comercial Website tries to sell shit to people no matter what and trying to just SPAM Wiki to lure unaware people to their Commerce Hell-Trap is complete rubbis and you know what, you could find out fairly easy by checking from where and to what the link goes. But on the other hand are most Free Everything guys that despite everything that is related to money and commercial easy to deceive by companies and their websites that are the definition of commerce and profit. --Roy-SAC 00:31, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I guess we're talking about this here. OK, then. I think the thing to do at this point is to post what you just wrote on the talk pages at Talk:Blog and Talk:RSS and let the community take a look at your article to see if it makes a contribution worth linking to. My personal opinion is that it does not, but I'm happy to bow to the consensus of the editors. Regardless of your feeling that Monkeyman's point is "rubbis," the fact is that spam is a huge and growing problem here and we have to be vigilant about it, and your site doesn't inspire confidence on first inspection. I would be happy to be proved wrong, but until I am I have to be against using your link, sorry. rodii 01:22, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I did not know that I can do that. See, I am not familar with the complete Wikimedia set of tools. The good thing is, that I might get some usefull responses out of it and maybe recommendations what to change, re-phrase, remove or add. Lets see how it goes. Thanks for the Tip. I will finish V0.9 of my Personal Page first (helps me to get better used to the Wiki Editor and its inner workings :) ). --Roy-SAC 01:33, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the Post. That is what you meant right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Blog#Opinion_about_Article._Decision_to_add_it_to_the_Blog_Article_or_not --Roy-SAC 02:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. Thanks for working with us on this. It's hard when you are trying to contribute and your contributions are deleted, but ultimately we're all working for the good of the encyclopedia-- it's nothing personal. Cheers. rodii 02:07, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Wikistalking

Wikistalking and creating bogus AfD's is a problem, monkeyman. You and your crew are acting like vandals. Jehochman 18:11, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Re DAP Technologies VfD - Monkeyman, there is a lot of garbage in Wikipedia, and many articles that need rewriting. Can't you find something better to do that pick on a corporate page that is fairly neutral and informative? 12:55, 20 February 2006 Jehochman
Please don't vandalize articles with improper AfD nominations. I feel that you have been wikistalking me. Jehochman 18:11, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please cite which article(s) you feel I have vandalized and why you feel I am stalking you? I'm honestly not sure what you're talking about. Monkeyman 18:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm guessing you are referring to this discussion. Please read over it and note my comments. They can in no way be interpreted as vandalising or stalking. You have to expect more scrutiny to your contributions when you are a self-described "Internet Marketer". Monkeyman 18:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that link. I hadn't seen that, and now I've had a chance to state my point of view. Sincerest thanks! You're a gentleman, not a stalker. Jehochman 19:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please change the reasoning behind your vote as the organization is verifiable. Respected and long time contributor User:Jmabel said he remembers it. It isn't nonsense. Just highly ridiculous. —WAvegetarianTALKCONTRIBSEMAIL 22:57, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi WAvegetarian. Thanks for the tip on my sig. I've made the changes and my life is so much easier.  :) Monkeyman(talk) 02:21, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

66.190.68.175

Might I ask what you were talking about? I am on a dynamic ip, so you might have been leaving a message for some other user of my provider, but if not, what did you mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.68.175 (talkcontribs)

I've stopped, sorry.

I can be naive about things like that. Maybe I (or another programmer) could create a regex routine to replace any and all clickbank links with a comment tag, or just nothing. 12:31, 21 February 2006 Spikku

Webcomics

Webcomic notability guidelines are at WP:WEB. They're basically just a reiteration/clarification of Wikipedia:Verifiability, that Wikipedia articles must be based on published reliable and reputable sources. The alternative -- to create an unreliable encyclopedia -- isn't really a worthwhile option. So, for example, one can write a verifiable article on Narbonic or Penny-arcade because they can be sourced to the New York Times and other reliable sources. There really isn't much serious debate on this issue -- Wikipedia:Verifiability is official policy. So, your key to webcomics-related deletion debates is "Is this article sourced to reliable sources"? If it's just a cast list and a plot summary with no references to reliable sources, it's a likely delete. -- Dragonfiend 16:29, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, just dropping a note to say thanks for your watchful eye on the EDI page. I just stared as a Wikipedia editor, and have been trying to assiduous about removing commercial links as I see them, and it's nice to see others are doing the same. No need to reply, just saying thanks! Anca 18:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion The Evolution Experience

I was wondering if you would reconsider your recommendation that this page is deleted now that the article has been strengthened, with independent sources. I refer you specifically to MINISTRY MAGAZINE. If you feel that more is needed then please leave me talk about how we can make this article better. We are Evonews, 14 people in support of listing The Evolution Experience for historical interest, as it can be independently verified that The Evolution Experience has had a significant impact on the development of dance culture in Wales. User:Evonews 14:00, 22 February 2006 Evonews

Hi Evonews. Sorry about my delete vote, I know you've put a lot of work into the article. I researched The Evolution Experience before voting and I couldn't see where it met WP:CORP or WP:MUSIC. Can you look over those two Wikipedia Policies and see if you can include something in the article which would meet policy? Reviews in magazines or some evidence that many people (>5000) have attended the event? If you can add something that would meet one or both of the policies above I would gladly change my vote to 'keep'. Monkeyman(talk) 02:16, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Evonews. Sorry about my delete vote, I know you've put a lot of work into the article. I researched The Evolution Experience before voting and I couldn't see where it met WP:CORP or WP:MUSIC. Can you look over those two Wikipedia Policies and see if you can include something in the article which would meet policy? Reviews in magazines or some evidence that many people (>5000) have attended the event? If you can add something that would meet one or both of the policies above I would gladly change my vote to 'keep'. Monkeyman(talk) 02:16, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an extract of Ministry, a national dance magazine in the United Kingdom.

EVOLUTION EXPERIENCE, Terminal One, The Park House Centre, HaverfordwestMinistry Magazine, August 2002 Issue, Pages 148-149; "Club of the Month, Evolution Experience" (double page review in NATIONAL dance press)

'"Since August 2002 the Evolution Experience crew have dominated the West Wales club scene. Their circus-style events have graced many sea-air-saturated venues in this area, and continue to go from strength to strength. We’re talking a 40k PA system, organomorphic visuals (Que? – Ed) and a light show that would have any hardened clubber reaching for their sunglasses. The combination of police check points near tonight’s venue, the warehouse-style main room and the whistle-wielding clientele give Terminal One a back-in-the-day vibe, of which we heartily approve. No detail has been spared by young promoters Thomas and Declan: the 40ft inflatable chill out church outside is pure class, as is the fun-fair and “bucking penis ride” (don’t ask). The sun is still setting behind us, as Dave Pearce kicks off a ridiculously early 8pm-10pm slot, but the tunes are hard enough to have an already manic crowd jumping for joy. The anthems are flowing as quickly as punters in the 2,000 capacity hanger, and we’re soon down the front getting busy. Things fall into place upon the arrival of rave-master Slipmatt. He’s definitely most at home here, complementing the feel of the night by whipping the punters into a frenzy. Lisa Lashes follows and is as mesmerising as ever, as much an attraction for her superstar DJ persona as her spinning talents. But Terminal One is a night that really belongs to the residents, a tight-knit family of hard dance lunacy that you’re as likely to find along side you on the dance floor than on the decks. The big names were gone by midnight, but the sounds gain velocity, each rezzie taking a half hour turn while the others jump around on the stage area inciting the masses. If you can beg, borrow or steal a copy of their video, you wont regret it. You cannot deny raw talent, and the Evolution Experience crew are a force to be reckoned with, so call the number above, find out about their next event, get a car full and go West."'

PLEASE NOTE: Criteria for companies and corporations

A company or corporation is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:

WIKIPEDIAS POLICY: The company or corporation has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the company itself. This criterion excludes: Media re-prints of press releases, other publications where the company or corporation talks about itself, and advertising for the company. 1 Trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report extended shopping hours or the publications of telephone numbers and addresses in business directories. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, television documentaries, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations.

The Evolution Experience more than meets this requirement with just the few articles we have mentioned...

    • Ministry Magazine, August 2002 Issue, Pages 148-149; "Club of the Month, Evolution Experience"
    • The Milford & West Wales Mercury, July 20th 2000 - "Clubbers advised to buy tickets early - or be disappointed"
    • The Milford & West Wales Mercury, July 27th 2000 - "All systems go for Evolution"
    • The Milford & West Wales Mercury, July 8th 2000 - "DJs wanted for Milfords biggest ever night out"
    • The Western Mail, August 2nd 2000 - "Dance Event for Milford Haven"
    • The Western Telegraph, August 3rd 2000 - "Evolution Revolution"
    • The Western Telegraph, August 9th 2000 - "Evolution Sets New Standards"
    • The Milford & West Wales Mercury, August 10th 2000 - "Evolution Revolution as dance fever hits County"
    • The Milford & West Wales Mercury, September 11nd 2000 - "Re-Evolution"
    • Pembrokeshire County Council Public Protection Division v Evolution Event Promotions Limited 2003, Swansea Crown Court. (public record of 500 page published report by a consumer watchdog organisation into Evolution.)

The largest attendance at an event was just short of 3,000 people, due to licensing restrictions, not popularity, but The Evolution Experience has a subscribed membership of 7,000 people who regularly attend different events. Surely, this is enough to meet Wikipedia criteria.... if not... please let us know from EVONEWS

Listen Good

Listen Good you monkey, Garret Morgan did create the 1st traffic light and I don't care what you say about it!!!! It is no myth about him doing it. He is a hero to all the street everywhere. And I was reading you r page and you said that someone must slay family, friends, and some other stuff to secced on wikipedia. That is pure bull! It makes me sad to see this. Well thats all i have to say! Have a nice and wonderful day;) 19:24, 22 February 2006 LittleLadySmartAss

Hi LittleLady. I've never edited the Garrett A. Morgan article. Are you sure you have the right person? Monkeyman(talk) 02:18, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi There! In case you are not watching the deletion talk page, I added this:

  • COMMENT-The band's discography from inception until present are mostly releases which also contain their own articles on Wiki and have been deemded as being notable (some had BEEN proposed for deletion but kept by administrators as notable). The band was featured on the most recent Tony Hawk video game as listed on the Wiki article for said game, and the new and not yet released album was produced by the current Guns N Roses bassist. The band might not meet the criteria of mainstream music award winnings or billboard charts, but I do believe these things make it very notable. Madangry 01:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Madangry. Honestly, I really did want to keep the article but it just didn't meet the WP:MUSIC. I read over the site and researched them on google to see if they met some criteria but it just wasn't there to me. Please check out the 'Musicians and ensembles' section in WP:MUSIC, if you can add something to the article that meets one of these criteria I would gladly change my vote to 'keep'. Monkeyman(talk) 02:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I completely agree. You might want to join the WP:MUSIC policy team and offer advice on inclusion criteria for indie bands. Monkeyman(talk) 01:15, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sir, The link placed for ReturnonAffiliate.com under "affiliate marketing" is no more of a commercial link then the other two there "abestweb.com" and "associatesprograms.com". If anything ReturnonAffiliate.com offers more content through blogs and social networking then the other two do. Associatesprograms.com is purely commercial with the goal of selling a product called "sitesell" and other such money making schemes. Currently ReturnonAffiliate.com has no ads and is purely an information site. I would appriciate a reply to this message and feel that it is an appropiate external link. Thank you. Richard A. Lewis Founder ReturnonAffiliate.com (Returnonaffiliate) P.S. I would also like permission to create topics on other affiliate sites that are left off or often deleted that pertain to the affiliate marketing industry and are of great interest to ecommerce professionals.

The external link you recently added to Affiliate marketing is not working. I can't determine if this is a valid link if I can't see it. If the site is not up soon I will have to remove it by default. Sorry. Monkeyman(talk) 15:38, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Perfecto. The link you added to Affiliate marketing was an advertisement for your company. I'm sorry but we cannot accept links like these. Please try to view this policy from wikipedia's viewpoint. If we allowed every link to any article, wikipedia would soon become a vehicle for advertising and would no longer be an encyclopedia. If you like, you can discuss your viewpoint on Talk:Affiliate_marketing. Monkeyman(talk) 15:50, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well I will go ahead and remove all other commercial links as well under "affiliate marketing" then. The policy should apply equally to all forum sites. Since my site actually has no ads it is unfair to allow commercial sites on this listing and not mine. Thank you.Richard A. Lewis FounderReturnonAffiliate.com

Argox

Check the note I left on Talk:Argox, and if you know an admin, ask them to look at this. I don't want to provide fodder for future disputes. Thank you. We may disagree, but we can still work together. Jehochman 14:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Swiftcover

You're not supposed to reprod articles. As the banner says, removing the notice is the correct way of objecting to deletion (of course, the person should provide an edit summary, but they don't have to). If someone objects, the deletion is controversial. Prod is specifically for uncontroversial deletions. See Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion#What_this_process_is_NOT_for.

When you still want to delete something that's been deprodded, you just move it to AfD, which is what I'm doing for you. NickelShoe 19:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right of course. But the user who created the article was brand new and he didn't leave an edit summary so I thought I'd give him another chance. I left a nice message on his talk page explaining that the article must meet WP:CORP. Monkeyman(talk) 19:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism on Kosovo page

Please I hope you can help me! I have used wikipedia for almost a year but fixed a "membership" last month to better keep up with my contributions. Most of the pages work fine but the Kosovo page work really bad. It's no where close to NVOP. If you want to know I'm defently not some pro-serb patriot nor even from Balkan (acctually Sweden). But history is my biggest interest and I hope I've made alot of good contributions in this site. I hope anyway that you could look on the Kosovo page or please tell me where can I report vandalism? Thanks anyway// Litany 16:09, 24 February 2006 Litany

Hi Litany. The procedure for dealing with vandalism can be found here: Wikipedia:Vandalism#Dealing_with_vandalism. It's very well outlined and simple to follow. Monkeyman(talk) 21:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Terry Nichols

Did he like guns? shit yeah. Did he like taxes? Hell no. Did he hate collectivism? Damn straight. Would he argue that it was the right of a property owner to plant land mines on his front lawn in a urban neightborhood if he wanted to? Yes. Ergo he was a libertarian. 132.241.245.49 03:25, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you can support, with references, Nichols position on all of these issues I would certainly agree with you. Monkeyman(talk) 03:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not all Libertarians are part of the Party. 132.241.245.49 03:34, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandels

How can one IP address be shared by 100's of users. How can they mess up the main page. And how do you guys fix it?? user name: Kelly384673

(comment was added by 207.200.116.137) Hbackman 08:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A single IP is shared by many users the same way a telephone number is shared by many people in a household. Vandalism is fixed by reverting (see Wikipedia:Vandalism). Welcome to Wikipedia! Monkeyman(talk) 17:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

yr edit

Hi, I'm new to this and wonder if you could quickly explain something - your recent edit on the depression page says 'rv to Franzio. Book promotion'. I see that you have deleted someone elses insert of a book reference. But why does it say rv to Franzio (me)? Many thanks. Franzio

It means I reverted back to your version. Putting a username in the edit summary lets other editors know how far back the revert went. That's all.  :) Monkeyman(talk) 17:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for explaining :) Franzio 19:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Priština

The page has been reverted back to the Albanian version again!

Phildav76 12:43, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Use subst: for templates in the user_talk namespace

I noticed you're not using subst for you vandalism warnings, so here's a friendly message from the subst information office :)

When using template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template.

Obli (Talk)? 14:38, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blanking pages

I don't recall blanking any pages. When did this happen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.167.25 (talkcontribs)

Why you delete it?

That election IS oft argued to be fixed. Thta is fact, so it shouldn't of been deleted. 16:11, 26 February 2006 TheCaddyMan

Sometimes vandals with the same IP address as you do it. Something to do with AOL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.200.116.137 (talkcontribs)

Hey

How do I get people to stop vandalizing the Jaffa orange article. 16:10, 27 February 2006 69.160.17.133

You should probably start by signing up for an account. Not too many people take anon users seriously. Second, try to find some sources that back up your claim. If you source it, it is less likely to be removed. Monkeyman(talk) 21:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

National_Association_of_Realtors

Hi Larrybroker. Thanks for your additions to the Guild article. This information might be better suited in a section titled "Criticism" in National_Association_of_Realtors (which you can create within the article). Since it is a bit controversial, you should probably discuss your intentions on the Talk:National_Association_of_Realtors before making your additions. We have many articles with a criticism section but they should stick to the facts and adhere to WP:POV. Welcome aboard.  :) Monkeyman(talk) 20:03, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. I'm not certain how this message system works, so please let me know if you receive this. Can you please email a link to the "criticism" page you refer to? I can't find it. In response to your message, i went back and reduced the description of guild behavior to the essentials. I think there is only fact described and no point of view. Please make a specific suggestion if you disagree. The facts stated have been confirmed by independent GAO report and various other credible parties. Perhaps you could ask an economist familiar with the industry to take a look and revise? I concur that the encylopedia should rigorously monitor this sort of content for accuracy and opinion. But, whitewash is equally problematic. 10:04, 27 February 2006 Larrybroker
Hi Larry. Yes, I got your message. You yourself can create a "Criticism" section within the article by editing it. As long as it is NPOV and referenced I think you'll be fine with the additions. Also, you can sign your messages by typing ~~~~ at the end of your comments. Wikipedia will turn those four tildes into your signature and timestamp it. Monkeyman(talk) 22:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spam, spam, spam, eggs and spam

File:SpamInACan.jpg
The Spam barnstar (contained within the spam can) is hereby awarded Monkeyman for his tireless efforts to fight spam. Obli (Talk)? 00:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Judging from your talk page, you seem rather successful at fighting spam, do you just patrol recent changes or is there a trade secret involved? Please share :) Obli (Talk)? 00:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]






Affiliate-Software-Review.com more commercial?

Why is affiliate-software-review.com seen as more commercial than a few forums that contain affiliate links? It has no ads and is a unique comparison engine to help merchants compare affiliate software platforms. 85% of the people that edit pages support respecting inclusion of this site. You are in the other 15% - please defend your reasoning. Peterkoning 04:00, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Peter, Affiliate-software-review is a commercial site. You are selling a service: "To order e-business coaching (US $140/hour) right now simply click on the Paypal "Add to Cart" button ". Your site requires registration to view the comparison data. You send out spam, "Another goal of affiliate-software-review.com is to provide you, the user, with a customized experience on our network of sites." Wikipedia is not an conduit for advertising. The spam problem here at Wikipedia is insane, we have tons of people trying to include their sites as external links into articles every minute. You are probably better off paying google or yahoo to advertise your site for you. Monkeyman(talk) 13:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Monkeyman, this is a request to retract your comment re "you send out spam". As I mentioned elsewhere [Affiliate-Software-Review.com] is a professional merchant resource site that uses Aweber which is a double-opt in email management system. Saying someone sends out spam when you have not researched the process is false and damaging. It also lowers the perception people have of your other edits and comments, some of which I feel are excellent work.Peterkoning 17:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Advertising

Apologies for that ... just trying to provide a link. 14:46, 28 February 2006 John.Oakley

Ringtones and LinkSpam

Hi! I semi-reverted your linkspam removal edit to the ringtones article. There was a definitely linkspam item there that you removed that I kept deleted. You accidentally broke a link to the Ringtones & the Music Industry and I fixed that. I did restore the two links that link directly to ringtone MP3 files. They are legit and not linkspam. They are, in fact, quite useful, I think! Thanks! See you around! --AStanhope 20:27, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I had to remove the following two links from Ring tone:
  • forty fivemovie.com/mp3/lamisc/ringtones/phone_ring_2x.mp3
  • fortyfivemo vie.com/mp3/lamisc/ringtones/euroring.mp3
These should not be included in the external links section. Please see WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_mirror_or_a_repository_of_links.2C_images.2C_or_media_files. Monkeyman(talk) 20:25, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry - these are totally non-commercial and totally useful. This isn't a simple repository or mirror... They are links to something that can actually be used. I am restoring them. --AStanhope 20:37, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to Talk:Ring_tone

Affiliate marketing

Hi Monkeyman, I have suggested on the article's talk page that we have a link to a directory - I'd welcome your support in this. Barrylb 07:50, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the good work with the article; I'm glad we got to the wording that we did, and I can go and work on other articles. John Broughton 21:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Jackson nicknames

Yes, I'd be more than happy to accept that sort of compromise. Just keep in mind that the same sort of battle will ensue there as well. --Mhking 02:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WTF...

Leave Me The Hell Alone. I'm Merely Visting This Page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.126.63.21 (talkcontribs)

Hi Monkeyman - thanks for your email. The links I have put in are not commercial links. They are links to reports that are free. The reports that we publish are on different sectors of financial services and they represent a overview of a particular sector in the UK and internationally. We have reports on all sectors of financial services (they can all be downloaded FREE OF CHARGE from www.ifsl.org.uk). Hope this is ok.

Regards, Marko

Hi Marko. It looks like you're randomly adding these links to many articles. When we see this kind of behavior at Wikipedia it is interpreted as someone is trying to drive traffic to their website. Please review your intentions. Is it to improve articles or is it to drive your business? Monkeyman(talk) 14:19, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Monkeyman - IFSL is a promotional organisation based in London. We do not earn money by selling anything - our membership of the largest financial services companies in London funds us. Our goal is to inform and educate. Have a look at one of our reports - they are all listed in www.ifsl.org.uk/research/index.html - these reports are free and their goal is to educate and inform on financial services (globally and in the UK).

As the reports are on different financial sectors (banking, insurance, private equity, etc...) I have made sure that I posted the links in the external links section on the appropriate pages (apart from the Hedge Fund report which I thought added more than the link that was posted there). Appologies if I have made an error somewhere. I do not think you will find many free sources of information readily available on the internet (apart from your website) so I think we are unique in that respect.

Our goal is to educate and distribute our reports as widely as possible. You will see on our website that we do not charge for anything so we have nothing to gain by increased traffic to our website.

Cheers, Marko

Deleting advertisements

Thanks for your work on new page patrol. Please be careful to only tag pages for speedy deletion if they meet the criteria at this page. Note especially that advertising is not a speedy deletion criterion. A relatively new process, proposed deletion, is the halfway-point between speedy deletions and the lengthy AFD discussion process. A page tagged with {{prod}} will be deleted in five days unless someone contests the deletion by removing the tag. This would be a good way to deal with ads in the future - just tag them {{prod|advertisement}}. (ESkog)(Talk) 16:46, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wtf

wtf who are you

Dear Monkeyman

Dear Monkeyman, I didnt mean to spam but hope linking might inform readers and also help others to learn stuff. I have made the only online self help video which can really help others and they are free. I hope this fits in with the Wikipedia's great plan Yours Andrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.148.128 (talkcontribs) 12:08, 4 March 2006 86.134.148.128

Marit Larsen

Why was the new link taken out and the broken link reinstated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.84.217.222 (talkcontribs)

The maritlarsen.com link was changed to marit.4t.com by user 128.84.60.161. See here. This is commonly done by site owners to promote their site over a competitor's site. Monkeyman(talk) 20:02, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you delete my links? You said, "Please do not add commercial links (or links to your own private websites)". Firstly, if you had visited the page, you would know that it is not a commercial website. Secondly, that web page is not mine. I may have the same username as is mentioned in the URL of the site, but that is coincidental. I only know of that site because I googled my username, and that came up. Well, actually, a couple of forum posts and tech gadget reviews came up, and I was intrigued that someone else had the same username as me, so I followed links, and found a link to the website in a NewNova Forum post. Thirdly, and most importantly, the website provides relevant content, and you said that I am "encouraged to add content". So, to surmise, I added content, and did not spam the site. It's amazing that this site has come so far, considering that I have people jumping down my throat for trying to improve the standards of the website. If you don't believe me, visit the website through the links and tell me if it is relevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Astral9 (talkcontribs)

I have to call shenanigans here. Before this edit to Monkeyman's user page, this user had made 13 edits, and every one of them had been to add this link, which "coincidentally" he/she shares a username with. That is the sum total of his/her participation in Wikipedia. And the site in question is, to be charitable, nothing special. The advice that made it such a must-have for the malware page is "buy some software." Amazing coincidence, or someone surreptitously pushing their affiliate marketing site? You make the call. · rodii · 23:36, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, firstly, as you said, I did not have any previous edits. Don't you think that if I had anything to hide, I would change my username? It's pretty easy to sign up for an account, and because I have no previous edits, it wouldn't harm me in any way. I am not affiliated with the site, so I will not link to it again, but I have participated in many online communities before, and I have never spammed anyone, so I would hate to tarnish my reputation with this. I would, however, like to clear a few things up. For one thing, the "amazing coincidence". Rodii, try googling your name and see how many results come up. I'm sure not all of them are you. If you had googled my name, you would have seen that there were even some sites in other languages, and given that the site is in english, and I only speak english, it is clear that those sites involve different people. In fact, it looks like there are two languages other than english, which indicates that there are at least four people in the world with the same username. Now, given the population of the earth, I don't see how that's an "amazing coincidence".
Also, the "affiliate marketing" thing. The website does not reccomend to buy products (besides reccomending buying a commercial antivirus solution, but naming two competitors. Do you think Norton or Mcaffee would really pay money to have both their products and their biggest competitor's products listed?). Have you never seen a free website before? Free hosting puts ads on the top of the page, which the webmaster has no control over. In the actual content of the page, the webmaster says to "use one of these three free antivirus solutions" if they do not have a commercial product. He/she never mentions a specific product or company under the Firewall section, or throughtout most of the website. Additionally, there are no links to paid software, so there is no way to track how many people have bought a product based on the site's reccomendation, which is the core purpose of most affilliate marketing schemes.
So, to surmise, I don't care that you have removed that site, but I don't want you to think of me as a spammer. I have been using wikipedia regularly for about three years now, and have reccomended it to many people. I just wanted to clear that up, and I apologize for any inconvenience. Oh, and I do have one question: what did that text snippet mean when it said that Wikipedia is driving for print publications? Did it mean that they want to print Wikipedia, that they wanted to achieve that level of quality, or that they want to have printed references for their work? I can't remember the entire snippet, but I am interested. 09:36, 5 March 2006 Astral9


regards to your edit

Hi, I added mydietblogger.com because it is very similar to HealthDiaries.com, which is already linked there. Since they both are free services, but offer different user experiences, I do not understand why the link I placed was removed while their's remains. Furthermore, it is a great and unique resource. Regards, Jasmin 20:32, 4 March 2006 Mydietblogger

Hi Mydietblogger. Sorry but we cannot accept commercial links in our articles. We have a serious spam problem at Wikipedia and unfortunately we have had to take a very strong policy against external links. If we did not have this policy we would be overrun with advertisers. It is honestly nothing personal against you or your site ... we are trying to offer our readers content only. If they wish to find blogs, products, or services that is up to them to find them on their own. Monkeyman(talk) 01:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 67.165.172.102. I've noticed you're adding quite a few external links to many dog articles. Please make sure you are not affiliated with these links. Submitting links to your own websites is against Wikipedia policy. Monkeyman(talk) 16:47, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. I'm just trying to make it easy and quick to find related websites. Nothing more. I found the format I'm using on another dog article and liked it. I thought it'd be nice if the others wre like that too only SirIssacBrock seems to disagree with me and would rather the external links to the dog articles be a hodgepodge to make it harder for the average user to wade through them and find what they want. I also thought the purpose of external links was to list related sites to help educate people and here he is editing them out on the Dogo Argentino. What gives? An eucational site that surpresses education of the general public? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.172.102 (talkcontribs)
There is a standard format for the external link section here. As long as your link formating adheres to this you'll be fine. Monkeyman(talk) 17:04, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I saw the format being used already on one of the dog articles and thought: That's a novel idea, why aren't they all like that. If the external link format was wrong on one dog article that should've been caught by you or someone else. Geez, that's fine if Wikipedia likes the external links to be a hodegepodge, but, I can tell you as an average user --- we don't. It's nice to have them broken up by club,a ssociations, and socities; rescue; etc....
The Dogo Argentino article does not require four subheader for six links under the External Links sections. For that few in number it require zero subheaders. Cordially SirIsaacBrock 17:35, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Unfortunately we've got nothing written down in WP policy so we wind up with confusion like this. Monkeyman(talk) 17:38, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cellular repeater

You removed the external link www.cellboost erstore.com/index.html on the cellular repeater page I created and wrote. I understand your reasoning, but since I used it heavily as a reference in the creation of the site, and it contains some extra information, I feel it should stay there. I was under the impression that Wikipedia did not issue a blanket ban to all sites with any commercial aspects, just those which offered no relevant contribution to the understanding of the topic of the article. I do not stand to make any fiscal or otherwise commercial gain by promoting this site.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nobodyinpart (talkcontribs)

Hi Nobodyinpart. Sorry I had to remove that link but we have a serious spam problem at Wikipedia. We have advertisers constantly trying to sneak their links into many of our articles. In response to this we have had to adopt a very strict external link policy. Monkeyman(talk) 17:28, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is this really fair monkeyman? If I used a particular site as a source of information, surely it's only legal to include a reference to that site? For example, I relied heavily on the information on www.motoun locknow.com (site doesn't sell anything) for the Subsidy Password article - and the reference link was removed. Since it was a valid reference that I used heavily in writing the article, am I allowed to put there reference back on there? InTheCityOf 17:50, 5 March 2006 GMT

Hi, You removed a reference to my web site. It is at this url : http://www.stock-article.com/. It is probably the funniest article written on stock market and very educational at that. You have read the full article to appreciate it. Please review it again and let me know if you can publish it. Sincerely, --Gautam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.17.133.67 (talkcontribs)

Hi Gautam. I'm sorry but we can't accept commercial links like these in our articles. Monkeyman(talk) 12:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Linkspam criteria

I wish you had not merged the "suspicious edits" and "edits which should be reverted" sections. It's been a bit obscured, but the distinction between those two sections was supposed to be edits which might be spam as opposed to edits which almost certainly are spam. With all the content added in between, it has become confused. Jdavidb (talk • contribs) 15:09, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jdavidb. I'll take a look and try to separate them out again. Feel free to make any edits you wish. The project page was in need of a little TLC so I thought I'd try and polish it up a bit. Monkeyman(talk) 15:36, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! It's probably not a big deal if they stay merged for a while, or even a long time. Just wanted to mention what the original intent was.

The project is definitely in need of TLC, and you did a great job with it, and having those sections take an alternative form to the direction I was going is a very small price to pay for having someone work over the entire page, which we continue to need.

Keep shooting spammers! :) Jdavidb (talk • contribs) 16:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Message Above

Hey Monkeyman, I left you a message under the Cellular Repeater section about links and I think you probably didn't see it. I'd really like a response since I'm wondering whether the links really were out of place. Best Regards. Inthecityof 8:09 PM, 6th March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Inthecityof. I got your message and I still think these links are unaccepatable. cellboost erstore.com exists soley to sell a product. motoun locknow.com redirects to cell-un lock.com which also exists soley to sell a service. It would be against policy to include these links. Also, you can sign your name/date with ~~~~. Monkeyman(talk) 21:18, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Acne vulgaris

I was trying to correct my mistake when the page was moved. My mistake, I was following the editor's contribution history from other articles he had spammed, but the spam had been reverted two or three edits before the last edit. I should have paid more attention when I linked in from the editor's contributions. -- Donald Albury (Dalbury)(Talk) 22:39, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, ok. Monkeyman(talk) 22:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. A copy of the article is present at the non-commercial site as well : http://www.maadhukari.com/prabandha/marketexp.html. Hope you will reconsider. Thanks,

--Gautam