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Former good article nomineeOsama bin Laden was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Current status: Former good article nominee

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Name

The article states the he should be refered to as 'Osama' or 'Osama bin Laden', and not 'bin Laden'. Then the whole rest of the article refers to him as 'bin Laden'. are we a little confused?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.246.217 (talk) 18:38, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Strictly speaking, Arabic linguistic conventions dictate that he be referred to as "Osama" or "Osama bin Laden", not "bin Laden", as "Bin Laden" is not used as a surname in the Western manner, but simply as part of his name, which in its long form means "Osama, son of Mohammed, son of 'Awad, son of Laden"." So why isn't he Osama bin Mohammed then ?Eregli bob (talk) 13:36, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Death

There are reports of death Monday 2nd may 2011 8 am IST

http://www.ajc.com/news/reports-bin-laden-dead-931726.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spo0nman (talk • contribs) 02:49, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Says in the intro that he died in December 2001... shouldn't someone change that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.44.179.196 (talk) 17:40, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

anti-semitic

how can he be anti-semitic when he is a semite??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.208.251.132 (talk) 15:49, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because he hates Jews.Cromulant (talk) 17:43, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re-read and re-write

Some body please re-read and then rewrite this entire article for focus and accuracy and intelligence.


October 2004 tape (footnote) Osama must have had major surgery to change his appearance or the worst double imaginable. I thought this tape had been laughed off the planet by now.159.105.80.220 (talk) 20:24, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

College

Origins of bin Laden network. By: Baldauf, Scott, Bowers, Faye, Christian Science Monitor, 08827729, 9/14/2001, Vol. 93, Issue 204.

This article says Osama studied Engineering. He was to work at or take over his father's company. Is this true or false? 81.68.255.36 (talk) 12:22, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MIDDLE EAST POLICY, VOL. IX, NO. 2, JUNE 2002

OSAMA BIN LADEN: EMBEDDED IN THE MIDDLE EAST CRISES Ann M. Lesch Dr. Lesch is professor of political science, Villanova University.

This article says he graduated when he was 22 and had a degree in "civil engineering" from the uni of Jidda. 81.68.255.36 (talk) 12:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are varying accounts of Osama bin Laden's time at Abdulaziz University, Jeddah. The best-sourced account I've seen is from Lawrence Wright who interviewed one of bin Laden's contemporaries from the period. He studied economics but began working for the family firm while at university. Unable to balance the two, dropped out a year before graduating. See The Looming Tower pp78-82. --Copper button 19:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism of bin Laden

Seriously? A section called criticism of bin Laden discusses a relatively esoteric point of Islamic scholarship. Umm... is there anything else he's been criticised for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.73.77.200 (talk) 10:04, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

quick fix

someone needs to remove the "|" after the "most wanted terrorists" link on the second paragraph. CBF logging in to do it myself (semiprotected page by the looks of it) 27.32.100.152 (talk) 12:04, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

the digitally aged photo published by the FBI was invalidated (see the bin Laden article) and should not be used as the portrait on this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.47.236.82 (talk) 06:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't it a bit weired to use a photo which is not actually of him as the main picture of the article? Especially when others are available? I would insert an older but actual photo and then move the manipulated one down to the middle somewhere. Maracana (talk) 09:30, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I replaced it because the previous photo was too low quality. If anyone can find a free HQ image, be my guest to change it. Sceptre (talk) 23:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Should definitely be changed immediately. Its ironic with the article itself, and proven invalid. Its better to have no photo than a picture of a spanish politician. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.118.241 (talk) 08:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Death

Can we give some credence to the fact that he might be dead? It has been speculated a few times and the main dates are pinned down to July or December 2001, with a few other dates suggested. Angelo Codevilla, of the American Spectator, says that there has not been a credible sighting of OBL since 2001 and that all the subsequent video and audio are very clearly not him (due to voice and appearance). Then, professor David Ray Griffin wrote a book entitled Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive, which provides a strong case and a date of death: 13 December 2001. And then there is the fact that OBL denied involvement four times* after 9/11, before suddenly arising to claim responsibility (on Griffins asserted death date). He appears very differently in the video published on that date, and unlike his [wahhabism|religious beliefs]]. Pervez Musharraf and Benazir Bhutto both claimed he died years ago, for kidney failure (2001) and assassination (2004?), respectively.

I would like to take the example of Alois Brunner, who is believed dead (he would be 99 now), but its unknown when. Here we have some dates and can then note that these are speculated or unconfirmed, but have some shadows of evidence to ground them. At some point, it will have to be recognized that he is dead. Why wait until 2057, when he would be 100 and the odds are ridiculous? I am willing to do the work on this, but I would like some support and comments from others to see if I am thinking realistically.

Please put a talkback on my talkpage if you reply. I tend to forget that I posted on a talk page.

*These articles I cited also make the case that OBL wasnt even involved in 9/11 and Codevilla suggests it was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. I would love to get that more prominence in this and the 9/11 article, but there is so limited citing on it. I dont know why people dont even think of this possibility. The government cant because they would have to admit they were wrong, but independent sources certainly could speculate more about it.

Metallurgist (talk) 01:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Awaiting President Obama to possibly confirm his death

President Obama is about to speak on TV, possibly to announce Osama's death. Will update as soon as the announcement is official. Safiel (talk) 02:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CNN is saying they have outside confirmation. But I agree we should wait for the President's statement. 75.93.212.49 (talk) 02:53, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 65.67.89.73, 2 May 2011

Osama was pronounced dead on may 1st, 2011. The report first given by NY times writer Jay Turpin is supposed to be finalized by the President in a address to the United States.

65.67.89.73 (talk) 02:49, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lets wait till the statement on TV --Guerillero | My Talk 02:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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