Talk:Genghis Khan

Name spelling

The article is inconsitent in Temüjin vs Temujin. Which is correct?

Temüüjin is the correct form, Темүүжин AptitudeDesign (talk) 20:50, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Multinational/multicutural society

Society of Czardom of Horde is classical example of multinational society like modern society of Europe (Western Eurasia) or many other societies of the world. It it not the society of "Mongol nation", "Tatar nation" or "Kazak nation" because under terms "Mongol", "Tatar", "Kazak" designated people of different nations, religions and social classes just the same as in time of Russian Empire all it's people in European sources were "Russians" and in Soviet Union all it's people were "Soviets". Serge-kazak (talk) 22:13, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Descendants of Gengis

Among the descendants and distant relatives of Gengis you can see people of many religions, nations, countries and social classes. Among his descendants - famous political leaders of different epochs in the countries of Central Eurasia (among them first of all - Russian Empire but also Chineese Empire, Crimean Khanate, Zaporozhian Cossack Army etc.). Among his descendants - famous Orthodox Christian, Muslim, Buddhist saints, teologists and philosophers, poets and writers, founders of new cities, travelleres and military leaders. Russian (Moscow) great princes and czars beginning from Ivan Kalita to Ivan the Terrible are direct descendants of czar Gengis. So we must say about the descendance of dynasties between Czardom of Horde and Czardom of Russia (Russian Empire). It must be also mentioned in the head of the article i think. Serge-kazak (talk) 22:39, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

A "direct descendant" is someone descended through the direct male line. The Russian rulers were not. "Direct descendant" - "прямой потомок". Это те, кто происходят по прямой мужской линии. Русские правители не происходили по прямой мужской линии. twitter.com/YOMALSIDOROFF (talk) 17:44, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

"identified a Y-chromosomal lineage present in about 8% of the men in a large region of Asia (about 0.5% of the world total). The paper suggests that the pattern of variation within the lineage is consistent with a hypothesis that it originated in Mongolia about 1,000 years ago. Because the rate of such a spread would be too rapid to have occurred by genetic drift, the authors propose that the lineage is carried by likely male-line descendants of Genghis Khan, and that it has spread through social selection"The Genetic Legacy of the Mongols -- It is impossible that there are 15 million descents.Don't you think that it is too dubious estimate?

"Military nation" created by Gengis

Czar Gengis in fact created new multinational "military nation" from people of different nations who became the warriors of his multinational Army-Horde and thats why citizens of his new state (Czardom of Horde). In different sources represantatives of this "nation" is known under the names Mongols, Tartars (Tatars) or Cossacks which in beginning meant the same - "free people", "free people by the will of God", "free warriors", "free citizens of Horde society". Later this model was sucessfully used in Russian Empire and in Soviet Union (creation of "Soviet nation" by Soviet leaders, among them - Joseph Stalin). This model also has parallels with society of Roman Empire where all free citizens of different origin were "Romans" or modern Europe (society of European Union) where all citizens are "Europeans". It must be mentioned in article. Serge-kazak (talk) 22:39, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Jengiz

AS Jengiz or Chingiz Чингиз Хаан is known only to Anglophones who cannot recognise Italian orthography { Genghis}, as "Ghenghis", I see no point in encouraging the mispronounciation. AptitudeDesign (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

We go with most commonly recognized spelling. There's a Wiki-policy for it, and I'm pretty sure the issue has been addressed before. Please run a search of the archives. - Boneyard90 (talk) 00:49, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

That would be WP:COMMONNAME. siafu (talk) 01:13, 30 September 2013 (UTC)