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Hello,

Some months ago I made changes to the PBS (Public Broadcasting Service) page, and the changes were all removed because I created an account for PBS on Wikipedia, and apparently you can't change an article about "yourself". I then requested the changes through my personal account and explained the situation and that I didn't know it shouldn't have been from a PBS account, but that I am a PBS employee. However, none of the changes were made.

I still work for PBS, and I am again requesting the same changes because the current page has numerous inaccuracies. Please let me know how I can go about getting it fixed. Below is the info we would like updated. You can contact me at nnbenson@pbs.org. Thank you, Natalie

CURRENT COPY:

PBS was founded by Hartford N. Gunn Jr. of WGBH-TV in Boston, Massachusetts, as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting on October 5, 1970, at which time it took over many of the functions of its predecessor, National Educational Television (NET), which later merged with Newark, New Jersey station WNDT to form WNET. In 1973, it merged with Educational Television Stations.

PROPOSED REVISION:

On Nov. 3, 1969, four public broadcasters, including the presidents of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) and National Educational Television (NET), incorporated a new nonprofit organization to interconnect the public television stations, taking on those functions of NET.

Citation: Public Broadcasting PolicyBase (January 14, 2000). "Articles of Incorporation of Public Broadcasting Service". Current Newspaper. Retrieved 2013-01-03 (SEE http://www.current.org/wp-content/themes/current/archive-site/pbpb/documents/PBSarticles69.html)

[Note: The Public Broadcasting Policy Base is listed currently as a citation on the PBS Wikipedia page. ]

President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the first Public Broadcasting Act in November 1967, paving the way for the formation of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB). As the steward of federal funds to support public television and radio stations and program production, CPB recommended the formation of a national program distribution service. The Public Broadcasting Service was born, and its headquarters was established in Washington, DC. Hartford Gunn, president and general manager of public television station WGBH in Boston, was named the first president of PBS in March 1970. The service was composed of 128 local member stations.

Citation: Public Broadcasting Service. (1999). PBS Celebrates 30 years of television at its best [Press release].

CURRENT COPY:

The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) is an American broadcast television network. The non-profit public broadcaster has 354 member television stations which hold collective ownership. The network's headquarters are located in Arlington, Virginia.

PROPOSED REVISION (in bold):

The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) is an American broadcast television network. The non-profit public broadcaster has more than 350 member television stations that that are independently owned and operated. The network's headquarters are located in Arlington, Virginia.

Note: The current entry notes: “Unlike public broadcasters in most other countries, PBS does not own any of the stations that broadcast its programming (in context, there are no PBS owned-and-operated stations anywhere in the country). This is partly due to the origins of the PBS stations themselves, and partly due to historical broadcast license issues.” Given this, I think asking for the above change is reasonable.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by NatNBen (talkcontribs) 20:07, 2 October 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

arlene francis

peter gabel who was arlene francis son said she didnt have cancer,she died from complications from alzheimers disease and sepsis

Was this information published somewhere ? Wikipedia cannot trust a person's word, there has to be a source that can be referenced. WarKosign 18:19, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Permissible Actions when attacked by another user on article talk

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I've been subjected to some very broad vicious attacks on an article talk page that have nothing to do with the article. Is it permissible to Delete personal attacks? Collapse the content of personal attacks? I'm not seeking action against the editor here, just guidance on what self help I can do without violating policy. Thanks for any guidance you can give. Legacypac (talk) 06:48, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In general WP:ANI is a good place to call for admin's attention. WP:AE is also a good place, if the article falls under one of these topics. I couldn't immediately find these vicious attacks in your history, but in general note that admins will examine you as well as those you believe attacked you, it is not uncommon for both parties being banned for wrongdoing, "but he started it" doesn't work as an argument. WarKosign 07:17, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank-you WarKosign for your helpful comments. I decided to try RPA template rather then drag the issue to a ANi. The AE does not apply. I removed the PAs with NPA templates and was quickly reverted so I restored the NPAs again. Hopefully I was justified. I'm not always the most diplomatic editor, but there is a line I'll not cross. We are supposed to discuss improving the article not each other right? Legacypac (talk) 08:47, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of, if not all, is not really what would be covered under WP:NPA (specifically Wikipedia:No personal attacks#What is considered to be a personal attack?). At least not to a degree you should be unilaterally deleting anything you slightly disagree with, it appears extremely disruptive. You really should restore the text and see what happens in your WP:ANI post. As is you both appear to be on pretty thin ice. Яehevkor 10:20, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Rehevkor. What you have removed is not blatant personal attacks. You should self-revert. At this point you are at three reverts on that exact same material and are on very thin ice. -- GB fan 10:39, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My advice? Don't go near AN/I. It's a Kangaroo Court with no effective rules. All sorts of bullshit can be written by anyone about anyone with no fear of consequences. Just ignore the personal bullshit on a local scale. Perhaps point out nicely that it's happening, then move on. Bullshitters need you to engage for them to succeed. It really annoys them when you let the insults slide off. HiLo48 (talk) 11:09, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Erm.. okay? Very eloquent. The issue already appears to be at ANI, but alternatively there are other avenues at Dispute resolution. Яehevkor 14:25, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting I actually agree with HiLo48 today. User GB actually restored the attacks against me, which is the same as making them against me himself it seems. So if I said about GB "your own history of POV edits and false edit comments pushing your POV (which is the same as that of the government/police agenda) has been clear enough. And you smear the foreign media as being in a "fog" when you've also used their reportage to push the "terrorist" content of this article and have ardently resisted and criticized inclusion of materials that dispute that." and (as a lot of your edits have). What "research" do you have access to, or is that just another part of your fabrication/conflation of sources like so often before? but this isn't the first time your "logic" hasn't made any sense. Once again, as always, you are misusing sources and distorting what they say or what they mean. Your ANI is just a bit of nuisance bureaucracy IMO, your record of distorting sources and making misleading edit comments I've already noted above more than once. Here you're just doing more of the same, and now invoking the wiki-bureaucracy to "deal with me". as you have, and which you have cheerled on e.g. talk:List of terrorist incidents, 2014 to bolster a SPA proposing to "shoehorn in" material based on START materials, who claims to be a newbie but clearly has Wikipedia experience]. In your little whine above, you presume to invoke NOT3RR for something that was only 2RR because you had started yourself to edit-war over removal of RS-cited information, based on your OR "logic" about what your cribbing/misquoted of RS and not on what they actually said. You are in the wrong, just as your edit comments on various highly POV "edits" were false." and so on would be perfectly appropriate? Legacypac (talk) 16:34, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]


There is no ANi yet. Thanks for your comments. Legacypac (talk) 17:08, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Help splitting 'List of American officers killed in the line of duty' by year

List_of_American_police_officers_killed_in_the_line_of_duty (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I've been trying to make the List of American police officers killed in the line of duty more comprehensive (because compare its old version to the year-by-year version of killings by officers--the latter is much longer than the former, yet the two link to each other). Specifically, I've added the lists from the last four years in as tables on a single page, and I'd like to similarly split the tables up up year-by-year. However, I don't know how to create dynamically-linked pages or navboxes or templates like the "Killed by" page has.

Could I get someone to help? I don't understand the Wikipedia help pages about dynamic lists/templates and I'm afraid I'll mess something up. A video tutorial would be fine if an experienced editor doesn't want to quickly get it done.

I'd also like a pointer: Is it a good idea to add the Archive.org link as each reference URL, even if each officer's memorial page is not yet Archived? I personally like the idea, just in case ODMP.org went down, but I'm not sure.

Zerim (talk) 05:57, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A-league goals scored 2014-15.

Games played at 35. Goals scored shows 92 but when you add actual goals scored for the teams on ladder, total is 97. Please check. Must get statistics correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.201.153.47 (talk) 07:56, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Flo ACTRESS NAME APPEARANCE DATE ISH

Flo ACTRESS NAME APPEARANCE DATE ISH ..: IS NOT SO MUCH 2008 BUT IS MORE LIKE CLOSER TO 2010 ISH ..: I JUST WANTED TO SEND A LITTLE NOTES..: MUCHO APPRECIATED..: WARMEST REGARDS..: KHAYKHOUAN P PHETAMPHONE THE Æ DHIVHINE Æ — Preceding unsigned comment added by KHAYKHOUAN (talkcontribs) 23:28, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

arlene francis

peter gabel has a copy of arlene francis death certificate showing she didnt have cancer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.150.94 (talk) 13:33, 1 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article wizard needs some content editing

The Article wizard mentions "writing about a company, organisation or foundation", but everything following from that is strictly about commercial companies and corporations. Please see § What about noncommercial groups? on the Talk page there for details, and ping me if you want me in the discussion.--Thnidu (talk) 02:33, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Salted Page

The article Captain Cook Cruises is blocked from creation as a result of salting back in 2007. As the instigator of the block has retired, what is the best way to have the block lifted to allow creation of an article, obviously without breaching policy as the previous articles did? Mo7838 (talk) 22:31, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To begin with you should discuss it with the admin that salted the title, Secret. You could also create a draft article such as Draft:Captain Cook Cruises. Then request the article be moved to Captain Cook Cruises. -- GB fan 22:43, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please be nice

I donated 30.00 1-2 months ago. Pls stop the harassment. NO NEW PASSWORDS for ANY NEW ACCOUNT. I'll get an account if you don't require me to remember another password.50.155.210.21 (talk) 19:08, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but passwords are needed to make sure that only one individual edits per account (and we have policy which prohibits use of an account by multiple individuals) and to make sure that the same individual is accountable for all the edits made by that account. Just as a word to the wise: If you're not using a different password for every different web account that you set up, you're just asking for your identity to be stolen. Only one of those accounts has to be hacked — and many websites have very weak security — for all of your accounts to become exposed. Consider using a password manager; there are some good free ones out there and even better ones available for a small fee. By using a manager, you can use a different username and password for every site you sign up for (and use stronger long nonsense complex passwords) and just have to remember the manager's password. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:09, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

arlene francis

arlene francis son peter gabel has a death certificate confirming his mother didnt have cancer71.186.150.94 (talk) 18:50, 7 December 2014 (UTC)vince callea[reply]