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Normal and 'Ab'-Normal SentencesLinguists, who were problematizing the boundary between “normal” well-formed language (Chomskian position) and 'abnormal' speaking/writing following Foucauldian path may question, 'How do we know the differences between 'norm'-al way of speaking and 'ab'-normal way of speaking?' Cartesian Linguistics analyzed the algorithm of so-called 'normal' 'well-formed' sentences only. This very construction of 'natural/normal language' (e.g., the well-constructed written sentences) mercilessly marginalizes the language of so-called non-'natural' madness or folly. How do linguist tribe distinguish between error (khyati) and non-error (akhyati), when they are talking about 'normal' and 'natural' language? Well-formed syntagms are used as examples in the Chomskian syntactic analysis. There was no scope for discursive paradigmatic recurrences.[1][2] References Chomsky does argue for innate language structures contra Wikipedia articleWikipedia states, under the "linguistic theory" section states: "A popular misconception is that Chomsky proved that language is entirely innate, and that he discovered a "universal grammar" (UG)." While this may appear to be true, it is not actually what the author believes. In an interview with Michael Albert, Chomsky states: "...There's got to be a nature. Otherwise, we're kind of like, either we're angels or kind of like amoebas, anything that happens shapes us...There's a huge debate about whether there's an innate language faculty, I mean, the answer to that is so trivial, you have to wonder who's asking the question. I mean, look, say my granddaughter and her pet chimp...have exactly the same data, how come my granddaughter picks out of the data something that's language related reflexively of course?...It's either a miracle or an innate language faculty, there's no other option...Yes, there has to be a human nature..." (Science, Religion, & Human Nature - The Chomsky Sessions 2, 58:32-59:41). [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.185.134.6 (talk) 10:59, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
References Western philosophy a religion?Western philosophy is a philosophy, not a religion. Nobody gets ex-communicated from western philosophical church. Religion is based on faith, an active belief in the supernatural being (or force), creator of the universe. Western philosophy is a world view that is not based in the supernatural, thus cannot be a religion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koldlok (talk • contribs) 15:21, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
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In 2004 Chomsky received the Carl-von-Ossietzky Prize from the city of Oldenburg (Germany) for his life work as political analyst and media critic http://www.oldenburg.de/startseite/kultur/kulturprojekte-und-preise/kulturpreise/cvo-preis/preistraegerinnen-und-preistraeger.html Chapultepecs (talk) 09:38, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
It is meant to be added to the "Academic achievements, awards, and honors" section ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chapultepecs (talk • contribs) 22:23, 3 March 2015 (UTC) Art and music – "little interest"?"He also has little interest in art and music, though he does enjoy reading non-fiction literature." Where on pp. 206–7 does it say he has little interest in art and music? Modern art and music, fine – but in art and music generally? How can anything on those pages be construed as suggesting as such? --YeOldeGentleman (talk) 21:41, 4 March 2015 (UTC) Update Chomsky's Marital Status
Noam Chomsky appeared on Democracy Now on March 3, 2015 and announced his recent marriage to Valeria Wasserman Chomsky. Please update the spouse section by adding Valeria Wasserman Chomsky (m. 2014) to Carole Chomsky (m. 1949–2008). Britishlibrarysessions (talk) 10:24, 27 April 2015 (UTC)Claire
Filmography - The Power PrincipleI've just added in the Filmography section The Power Principle (alternate link) documentary movie. Here's some links that can prove that the movie actually exist (I could not find Amazon or IMDB entries for it): [1] [2] — Ark25 (talk) 19:30, 11 May 2015 (UTC) Opening Statement: A snowstorm of linksThe high number of (pointless) links within the opening statement appear to be ugly, highly distracting and might help to lead people elsewhere. To correct this problem, can they not be deleted or greatly reduced? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.219.27 (talk) 18:24, 20 May 2015 (UTC) |
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Normal and 'Ab'-Normal Sentences
Linguists, who were problematizing the boundary between “normal” well-formed language (Chomskian position) and 'abnormal' speaking/writing following Foucauldian path may question, 'How do we know the differences between 'norm'-al way of speaking and 'ab'-normal way of speaking?' Cartesian Linguistics analyzed the algorithm of so-called 'normal' 'well-formed' sentences only. This very construction of 'natural/normal language' (e.g., the well-constructed written sentences) mercilessly marginalizes the language of so-called non-'natural' madness or folly. How do linguist tribe distinguish between error (khyati) and non-error (akhyati), when they are talking about 'normal' and 'natural' language? Well-formed syntagms are used as examples in the Chomskian syntactic analysis. There was no scope for discursive paradigmatic recurrences.[2][3]
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Chomsky does argue for innate language structures contra Wikipedia article
Wikipedia states, under the "linguistic theory" section states: "A popular misconception is that Chomsky proved that language is entirely innate, and that he discovered a "universal grammar" (UG)." While this may appear to be true, it is not actually what the author believes. In an interview with Michael Albert, Chomsky states: "...There's got to be a nature. Otherwise, we're kind of like, either we're angels or kind of like amoebas, anything that happens shapes us...There's a huge debate about whether there's an innate language faculty, I mean, the answer to that is so trivial, you have to wonder who's asking the question. I mean, look, say my granddaughter and her pet chimp...have exactly the same data, how come my granddaughter picks out of the data something that's language related reflexively of course?...It's either a miracle or an innate language faculty, there's no other option...Yes, there has to be a human nature..." (Science, Religion, & Human Nature - The Chomsky Sessions 2, 58:32-59:41). [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.185.134.6 (talk) 10:59, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, that was very weirdly written. I have tried to improve the description of his views which are very clearly arguing in favor of a considerable innate component (though the exact kind of the component has changed over the course of his work) of grammar in humans.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 23:25, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
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Western philosophy a religion?
Western philosophy is a philosophy, not a religion. Nobody gets ex-communicated from western philosophical church. Religion is based on faith, an active belief in the supernatural being (or force), creator of the universe. Western philosophy is a world view that is not based in the supernatural, thus cannot be a religion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koldlok (talk • contribs) 15:21, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- The infobox does not state that Chomsky's religion is Western philosophy. The field is for "Region", ie the region of philosophy with which he is concerned. cf A. J. Ayer, Judith Butler, Daniel Dennett, in contrast to Muhammad Husayn Tabataba'i or Tomonaga Sanjūrō. RolandR (talk) 17:14, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
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In 2004 Chomsky received the Carl-von-Ossietzky Prize from the city of Oldenburg (Germany) for his life work as political analyst and media critic http://www.oldenburg.de/startseite/kultur/kulturprojekte-und-preise/kulturpreise/cvo-preis/preistraegerinnen-und-preistraeger.html Chapultepecs (talk) 09:38, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —
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It is meant to be added to the "Academic achievements, awards, and honors" section ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chapultepecs (talk • contribs) 22:23, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Art and music – "little interest"?
"He also has little interest in art and music, though he does enjoy reading non-fiction literature." Where on pp. 206–7 does it say he has little interest in art and music? Modern art and music, fine – but in art and music generally? How can anything on those pages be construed as suggesting as such? --YeOldeGentleman (talk) 21:41, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Update Chomsky's Marital Status
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Noam Chomsky appeared on Democracy Now on March 3, 2015 and announced his recent marriage to Valeria Wasserman Chomsky. Please update the spouse section by adding Valeria Wasserman Chomsky (m. 2014) to Carole Chomsky (m. 1949–2008).
Britishlibrarysessions (talk) 10:24, 27 April 2015 (UTC)Claire
Not done for now: This information and reference are already in the Personal life section of the article and there is no spouse parameter in the infobox used. Where do you want this information to be added? Sarahj2107 (talk) 11:37, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Filmography - The Power Principle
I've just added in the Filmography section The Power Principle (alternate link) documentary movie. Here's some links that can prove that the movie actually exist (I could not find Amazon or IMDB entries for it): [3] [4] — Ark25 (talk) 19:30, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Opening Statement: A snowstorm of links
The high number of (pointless) links within the opening statement appear to be ugly, highly distracting and might help to lead people elsewhere. To correct this problem, can they not be deleted or greatly reduced? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.219.27 (talk) 18:24, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
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