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WikiCup 2015: The results

WikiCup 2015 is now in the books! Congrats to our finalists and winners, and to everyone who took part in this year's competition.

This year's results were an exact replica of last year's competition. For the second year in a row, the 2015 WikiCup champion is Godot13 (submissions) (FP bonus points). All of his points were earned for an impressive 253 featured pictures and their associated bonus points (5060 and 1695, respectively). His entries constituted scans of currency from all over the world and scans of medallions awarded to participants of the U.S. Space program. Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came in second place; she earned by far the most bonus points (4082), for 4 featured articles, 15 good articles, and 147 DYKs, mostly about in her field of expertise, natural science. Cas Liber (submissions), a finalist every year since 2010, came in third, with 2379 points.

Our newcomer award, presented to the best-performing new competitor in the WikiCup, goes to Rationalobserver (submissions). Everyone should be very proud of the work they accomplished. We will announce our other award winners soon.

A full list of our award winners are:

Godot13 (submissions) (FP bonus points) wins the prize for first place and the FP prize for 330 featured pictures in the final round.
Cwmhiraeth (submissions) wins the prize for second place and the DYK prize for 160 did you knows in the final round (310 in all rounds).
Cas Liber (submissions) wins the prize for third place and the FA prize for 26 featured articles in all rounds.
West Virginian (submissions) wins the prize for fourth place
Calvin999 (submissions) wins a final 8 prize.
Rationalobserver (submissions) wins a final 8 prize.
Harrias (submissions) wins a final 8 prize and the FL prize for 11 featured lists.
Rodw (submissions) wins the most prizes: a final 8 prize, the GA prize for 41 good articles, and the topic prize for a 13-article good topic and an 8-article featured topic, both in round 3.
ThaddeusB (submissions) wins the news prize for the most news articles in round 3.

We warmly invite all of you to sign up for next year's competition. Discussions and polls concerning potential rules changes are also open, and all are welcome to participate. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2016 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

Figureskatingfan (talk · contribs · logs), Miyagawa (talk · contribs · logs) and Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · logs) 18:39, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup Finalist

WikiCup Newcomer Trophy

Awarded to **Rational Observer**, who was the highest placed newcomer in the 2015 WikiCup. Figureskatingfan (talk · contribs), Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) and Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 20:27, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back!

Nice to see you back on Wikipedia. I hope you find some interesting articles in dire need of your help! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:06, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Liz! I hope I'm not too hooked, but it was breaking my heart to walk away like that. RO^(talk) 22:09, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I knew you'd be back :) GoodDay (talk) 05:19, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I enjoy this place too much to quit just yet! RO^(talk) 17:41, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for coming back =) - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:29, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the encouragement, KK87! RO^(talk) 21:33, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome, happy editing =). - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:52, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

November 2015

In reviewing your posts, I have decided to block your for disruptive editing. You can appeal this through WP:GAB — Ched : ? 06:41, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For one, you are quite obviously too involved to block me ([1]), and two, the length is utterly absurd for something that happened two days ago and ended swiftly. RO^(talk) 17:06, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ched, per ADMINACCOUNT, what diffs establish that I was being disruptive to the point of deserving an indef? RO^(talk) 17:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm especially interested in what diff/s you thought were so bad, because you've directed sexual innuendo towards me without sanction ([2]). RO^(talk) 17:37, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

her very insensitive linking of one group of anonymous works with your real name. Have I got that right. Anthonyhcole, I did no such thing. Godot submitted files for Wikicup points that contain his username and real name. There was no linking of anonymous works. I didn't connect two groups, they are in the same group of Godot's Wikicup submissions, which can be seen here: ([3]). RO^(talk)

This user is asking that her block be reviewed:

Rationalobserver (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Ched is too involved to block me ([4]), and an indef is way too punitive for that exchange. I admit I was wrong to assume, and I should have asked Godot in a more polite manner at his talk page. I regret that I didn't assume good faith, and pledge to be more careful about this is the future. RO^(talk) 17:06, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As far as the charges of outing, after this thread I got the distinct impression that using posted info is not outing. I know better now, and won't repeat the error. RO^(talk) 18:07, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I redacted the assumptions ([5]) and apologized at Godot's talk page immediately after it happened, and admitted I was wrong to assume ([6]). RO^(talk) 18:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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{{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=Ched is too involved to block me ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Drmies&diff=next&oldid=649056522]), and an indef is way too punitive for that exchange. I admit I was wrong to assume, and I should have asked Godot in a more polite manner at his talk page. I regret that I didn't assume good faith, and pledge to be more careful about this is the future. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 17:06, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

* As far as the charges of outing, after [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive881#Attempted_outing_and_harassment this thread] I got the distinct impression that using posted info is not outing. I know better now, and won't repeat the error. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 18:07, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

*I redacted the assumptions ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiCup/Scoring&diff=prev&oldid=690528500]) and apologized at Godot's talk page immediately after it happened, and admitted I was wrong to assume ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Godot13&diff=690530724&oldid=690530130]). [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 18:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC) |3 = ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=Ched is too involved to block me ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Drmies&diff=next&oldid=649056522]), and an indef is way too punitive for that exchange. I admit I was wrong to assume, and I should have asked Godot in a more polite manner at his talk page. I regret that I didn't assume good faith, and pledge to be more careful about this is the future. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 17:06, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

* As far as the charges of outing, after [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive881#Attempted_outing_and_harassment this thread] I got the distinct impression that using posted info is not outing. I know better now, and won't repeat the error. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 18:07, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

*I redacted the assumptions ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiCup/Scoring&diff=prev&oldid=690528500]) and apologized at Godot's talk page immediately after it happened, and admitted I was wrong to assume ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Godot13&diff=690530724&oldid=690530130]). [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 18:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC) |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=Ched is too involved to block me ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Drmies&diff=next&oldid=649056522]), and an indef is way too punitive for that exchange. I admit I was wrong to assume, and I should have asked Godot in a more polite manner at his talk page. I regret that I didn't assume good faith, and pledge to be more careful about this is the future. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 17:06, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

* As far as the charges of outing, after [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive881#Attempted_outing_and_harassment this thread] I got the distinct impression that using posted info is not outing. I know better now, and won't repeat the error. [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 18:07, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

*I redacted the assumptions ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiCup/Scoring&diff=prev&oldid=690528500]) and apologized at Godot's talk page immediately after it happened, and admitted I was wrong to assume ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Godot13&diff=690530724&oldid=690530130]). [[User:Rationalobserver|<font color="#FE2E9A">RO</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rationalobserver|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</sup> 18:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC) |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}

@Ched: - you just indeffed a user with 12k edits in the middle of an ANI thread about her behavior without consensus that doing so was a good idea and where you were certainly not the best admin to perform the block. Please undo your block before someone else needs to, and let another admin implement a block of appropriate length if and only if that thread reaches consensus that such is appropriate. Indeffing anyone who isn't an outright troll while there's an ongoing ANI thread about their behavior is barely ever a good idea, since it means they can't defend themselves. Kevin Gorman (talk) 18:33, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin. My block has nothing to do with "consensus" My block was for behavior both on and off wiki. I feel there is enough "ON" wiki evidence to show WP:DE, and even if "wp:nothere" isn't a "policy" - ...

When multiple people have problems with one account, then the problem becomes obvious. — Ched : ? 19:56, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ched, as has been repeatedly established in recent weeks, blocking (let alone indeffing someone) when a matter is at ANI without consensus is a questionable decision. On top of that unless it's already hit an OS queue I can't view, you're claiming you blocked partly based on revdeled stuff, and as far as I can tell those revdels don't exist. Please provide evidence that blocking a user in the middle of an ANI thread about that user's behavior is preventative or unblock. Kevin Gorman (talk) 20:26, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You made sexual innuendo against me ([7]), which I shared a few days ago at WPO, so you are too involved to have blocked me. RO^(talk) 20:00, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bullshit. Anyone can visit that diff and read the comment in its full context. When they do, they will discover that it was not directed to you at all, but to Drmies, and refers directly and unambiguously to a famous film quote that is about the military. So you're either lying or incapable of telling the difference between fact and fantasy. Viriditas (talk) 20:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies was talking about me when he said he liked to "kiss before he gets fucked", then Ched added the bit about a reach-around hand-job, but they were mocking me. Here's the whole thread ([8]). RO^(talk) 20:45, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of them were taking about you and neither of them were mocking you. The "reach around" quote is famous, and Ched was playing with the banter.[9] I think you should remain blocked because you continue to persist in promoting fantasies. Viriditas (talk) 20:58, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]