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Why do people keep erasing who Patrick is dating? I know him, and Caroline is a wonderful, caring person. Is someone jealous, or is this just not "important" enough? Because it really is. Special:Contributions/ ([[User talk:|talk]]) 00:18, 14 May 2008 Faith

You are so right. Let people know this stuff. To Wikipedia: In this day and age, information like this is what people want to know, and if you don't give it to them, this young generation is going to stop coming to your site for information. Special:Contributions/ ([[User talk:|talk]]) 00:59, 14 May 2008 Laurie

South Buffalo?

I think listing Kane's birthplace as "South Buffalo, NY" (all capitalized like that) are misleading, because it makes it sound that "South Buffalo" is the name of a distinct municipality, like South Bend, Ind. There is no place officially called "South Buffalo," it is just a neighborhood within the city of Buffalo. Leaving it in the biographical section as the neighborhood Kane grew up in is fine though.

For example, if you look up the article on Joe Mullen, it lists his birthplace as New York, NY, not Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, New York.140.251.125.50 (talk) 21:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC)Matt[reply]

bad behaviour off the ice

I think we should at least wait a day until more information comes out about this scuffle and the cabbie. It just hit the media and not enough details are out to give a Neutral point of view of the event yet. Just my thoughts. Ottawa4ever (talk) 17:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To state that he had been arrested on robbery charges on a dispute over cab fare is NPOV. So long as no further assumptions are made. It isn't like there aren't a ton of sources for it. Reso lute 19:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stats Errors

Just a few corrections for the sidebar: Kane is 5'9" and weighs 160 lb. Both the Internet Hockey Database and ESPN concur on this - I don't know where the other information is sourced from.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=96554 http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=3735 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.212.124 (talk) 17:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His NHL.com profile says 5'10'', 175. All 3 sites are reliable, though. http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8474141#&navid=nhl-keymatch RandySavageFTW (talk) 17:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arrest editing question

Why can't you edit this page? It should show Patrick "20 Cent" Kane. To properly create a suitable nickname, such sources as Wikipedia should display it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JYDK (talk • contribs)

I've temporarily protected the page from editing by unregistered and new editors due to repeated vandalism and violations of our biographies of living persons policy. The protection will be lifted automatically in about a day and a half, but I will immediately extend it if it becomes necessary. To answer your question, Wikipedia is not the place to promote a new nickname. While the "20 cent" nickname certainly has gained traction on online forums, it has no basis in reliable sources for Wikipedia's purposes. At this point, the repeated inclusion of it would be considered vandalism. Reso lute 03:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

US Bobcats

I don't think this team even exists, he played for US National Team but never a team called the Bobcats.Sportslogo (talk) 02:34, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First Cup winning goal by an American?

Does anyone know if Kane is the first American to score a Stanley Cup winning goal? I can't recall another. I know we have to wait until the it's said in the media, but I thought I'd mention it. BashBrannigan (talk) 03:16, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As any Buffalo fan will tell you, Brett Hull scored a Stanley Cup winning "goal" with his skate in the crease, triple-OT of Game 6, 1999. Hull was a dual citizen, but he played internationally for USA.72.225.232.224 (talk) 18:36, 13 June 2010 (UTC)Matt[reply]

Here's a complete list of Cup-winning goal scorers. Off the top of my head, Neal Broten (1995) and Mike Rupp (2003) are Americans as well. You can look through the others, there might be more.72.225.232.224 (talk) 18:44, 13 June 2010 (UTC)Matt[reply]

Game winner in the WP:LEAD

If the WP:LEAD is suppose to summarize his biography, it should include his most important accomplishment. We remove mention of the game winner.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be mentioned in the lead - it could use some expasion to refelct that he was the team's leading scorer this season, and was a member of the championship team. However I do not really think the extranous details (date, game number, time in OT, position of planets etc) should be included. -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 14:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

contract

hey I don't think his contract is 31 mil his and toews combined is 31 million can someone fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.55.21 (talk) 01:27, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I believe that was misreported. Kane and Toews signed identical five year, $31.5 million contracts. Someone got confused and thought that meant $31.5 million total. [1] Enigma^msg 01:47, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Below is a copy of the second paragraph in the article. The link for the year "2015" within the paragraph below directs to the 2013 Stanley Cup Playoffs instead of the 2015 SC Playoffs. The exact word that is linked incorrectly is denoted below with asterisks.

"Kane won his first Stanley Cup in 2010. He won his second Stanley Cup in 2013, and also became the first American forward to receive the Conn Smythe Trophy.[1] Kane won his third Stanley cup in ***2015*** as the Blackhawks defeated the Tampa Bay Lightning. Kane also represented the United States at the 2010 and 2014 Winter Olympics." Grantolabar (talk) 20:53, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done Cannolis (talk) 21:31, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Accusers name

IS it permissible to put the accuser's name in the article? Since she has not been charged with a crime of false police report yet, do we need to wait? Cavalierman (talk) 18:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone? Cavalierman (talk) 20:11, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a reliable source that verifies the name of Kane's accuser? Most sources will not disclose a rape victim's name until their assailant is convincited. -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 20:47, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:StarScream1007But there is no "rape victim". There is someone who made a false report of rape - a crime. The victim is Kane. My question is when can we name this person - her name was on the evidence bag during the press conference. 2605:E000:2150:7400:C41B:32:994D:2579 (talk) 21:11, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cavalierman The DA is investigating this matter and has never said the accuser made a false report of rape. Furthermore, unless her name is reported in the media, it shouldn't be added here. GLG GLG (talk) 13:51, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You wait. Period. We do not speculate, we do not guess, and we do not act without reliable sources. Especially when it pertains to WP:BLP. Reso lute 18:44, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I understand, but it does not seem fair to me. Kane is being made to be a villain, and by all accounts he is completely innocent of all charges. He was doing nothing and his name is being smeared all over the press. In the meantime someone is making false accusations but her name is being protected. Does not make sense! Cavalierman (talk) 19:26, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly we don't know that "by all accounts he is completely innocent of all charges". Nor do we know that a person is making false accusations. Really, all we know is that he has been accused of a sexual assault, and that the accuser's mother is accused of attempting a clumsy hoax for reasons unknown. Everything beyond that is speculation. As far as fairness goes, this is an example of the dark side of fame. Kane is a public figure, which is why the Buffalo News made this into a big story in the first place. Reso lute 19:59, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Patrick Kane is the fourth american player to win the Conn Smythe Thropy. The source marked with number 1 in the text is correct. But the text says he is the first american to win that thropy. It´s a minor edit. So it should be the fourth and not the first player shown in the text. NHL Fan2100 (talk) 14:36, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I simplified it down to the fact that Kane won the Conn Smythe, as being the fourth do to something isn't terribly remarkable. Thank you for catching that error! Reso lute 15:30, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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In the section about the recent rape investigation, next to the citation/source link for the DA's press release, please also provide citations for/links to the two 30-minute interviews the District Attorney gave regarding his reasons for declining to press charges. These interviews provide significant relevant information not covered by the press release alone.

The interviews can be found at http://www.wgrz.com/videos/news/local/2015/11/05/75224352/ (Part 1 of 3) and http://wivb.com/2015/11/05/full-interviews-paul-cambria-and-frank-sedita-speak-on-pat-kane-decision/

Xzandrax (talk) 15:30, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: These are not really reliable sources. Mdann52 (talk) 19:41, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you please edit the point streak records? It seems that you said that he tied it at 21 games and then broke it again at 21 games. Just a minor edit. Thank you! Minicoop12401 (talk) 04:38, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

'Done. ty for the catch. -- StarScream1007 ►Talk 14:09, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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but he chose not to play for the Knights until the 2006–07 season.[4]    replaces incorrect grammar and spelling in Section Minor and junior 2nd paragraph that reads  but he did not choose to play for the Knights until the 2006–07 season.[4]

2601:C6:C201:88A7:C53E:FE20:8D4E:D882 (talk) 14:12, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done Eteethan(talk) 17:25, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

False rape accusation heading

Just noting that regarding this edit by Nezi1111, I disagree with the heading change, per what I stated on my talk page; I stated, "I reverted you because I don't see where it's been confirmed that the rape accusation was a false rape accusation. I see speculation, but no confirmation. Therefore, I viewed your changing the heading to make it seem like the woman was lying as non-neutral. That the case was dropped, which doesn't mean 'innocent,' is already noted in the section. There is no need to bias the heading. [...] I'll leave a WP:Dummy edit note to alert editors to the fact that this topic has been discussed. Like I stated when reverting you, I came across that article via WP:STiki and I will not edit over it."

But I will go ahead and alert WP:Biography, WP:BLP and the WP:BLP noticeboard to this matter to see what other editors think. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:19, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]