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Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

Hi Peter SamFan! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.

-- 02:13, Saturday, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

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Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

Hi Peter SamFan! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.

-- 02:13, Saturday, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of LilyPond

The article LilyPond you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:LilyPond for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Calvin999 -- Calvin999 (talk) 09:01, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense indeed!

Template:Attached KML/Journal Square – 33rd Street and others were not nonsense you clumsy, over-hasty, uncomprehending newbie (taking example from this page's banner). Read the write-up at template:Attached KML and look for example at Hoboken – World Trade Center and click on the "Route map: Bing / Google" link at top-right. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:06, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you RHaworth — Bluetram (talk) 18:22, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2016-16

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Recent changes

  • You can filter Special:Log in more detail. You can filter different imports and new users. [1][2]
  • You can use Telnet to read Wikimedia wikis. [3]
  • MediaWiki wikis can handle bigger file uploads. The new limit is 4 GB. [4]

Changes this week

  • Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 19 April and 21 April. This will start at 14:00 UTC and last for 15 to 30 minutes. [5]
  • There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data center test.

Meetings

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20:40, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

AFD

Hi Peter, I've had to undo your AFD closure as you've used the incorrect template, You can either add importScript('User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js'); into your vector.js or if you wanted to do it manually then you could use template:afd top and template:afd bottom,
Thanks & Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 19:33, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Just wanted to let you know that for blatant vandalism or articles such as "Mother and lesbian civil partner accused of murdering toddler 'made another young boy sleep naked with his hands and feet bound with cable ties in a locked cage'," speedy deletion may be more efficient. Anyway, keep up the good work! Regards, GABHello! 22:23, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@GeneralizationsAreBad: Thanks! The problem is that I wasn't sure which criteria fit. Peter Sam Fan 22:45, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For the infamous RhineSomethingOrOther incident of 2016! HappyValleyEditor (talk) 20:01, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --Peter Sam Fan 20:03, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

Hi Peter SamFan! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Pippa taylor-hackett

A tag has been placed on Pippa taylor-hackett requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Stefan2 (talk) 09:02, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page comments

Hi Peter,

Thank you for your honest feedback. How did it all get started? The original author, Fredrick (and the children and staff at Jabes Orphanage School in Nairobi, Kenya) really liked the work I was doing. He wanted to help out. That's it. Unfortunately, there were issues on how he had typed in the info, that Wikipedia needed corrected -- so myself and other Wikipedia community members tried to assist (multiple times). His computer is not functioning as well as ours, where he can do the corrections -- his computer is very slow.

I am a multi-media writer, specializing in writing, NOT a specific media, as is currently being debated.

Fredrick, as he had written, he liked the message that was being sent, through the work that I had done and am doing. Seeing no one currently debating the article is really getting that point: that the focus of the work was to encourage and create a better world -- I was sad to see, that it became a debate on whether or not it had extensive publicity or noteability, etc. It was hoped that through Wikipedia, we would connect with like minds, who care -- like Fredrick (an amazing man, whose story no one will know, because this man does alot of work behind the scenes saving young lives -- however, there has been no support material, such as, no media coverage of his activities, nothing, to prove the role model that he is (only his community knows and friends on FB). We have done alot of work together in the Community of Jabes (even, starting an agricultural program, where none existed, selling hen eggs to one of the top grocery stores in Nairobi) -- bringing hope to a impoverished community that had so very little -- but, again, there was no media coverage or such.

Hence, could you please assist us in having the "Stella Constance" profile removed, as soon as possible? We thank you for your assistance and guidance in this matter. You are much more experienced in this, than we are. Sorry, that I had to connect with you this way. I could not find a way to email you. Wikipedia has a very different set-up, than with what I am familiar.

Wishing you, and the members of the Wikipedia Community, all the very best, Stella — Preceding unsigned comment added by StellaConstance (talk • contribs) 16:25, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Hi there,

This is really a minor thing, but just a heads up that new talk page comments, votes, etc. almost always go at the bottom of the thread rather than the top. (re: Wikipedia talk:Page mover). :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 21:17, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Tech News: 2016-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Wikimedia tested a new data center last week. This meant that the wikis could be read but not edited for 45 minutes on April 19 and for 20 minutes on April 21. [6]
  • When the data center was tested, new edits were not shown in the recent changes log for 20 minutes. They are in the logs now. You can read more about how to find the edits.
  • Unread notifications were sometimes counted incorrectly. This has now been fixed. [7]

Changes this week

  • Wikimedia Commons will have better access to Wikidata. They can use data from any page on Wikidata on any page on Commons. This will happen on April 26. [8]
  • It will be easier to choose if you want to watch files you have uploaded with the upload wizard. [9]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 26. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 27. It will be on all wikis from April 28 (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on April 26 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The "Save page" button when you edit will be called "Publish" instead. This is to help new editors understand what it does. It already works like this on some wikis. [10]

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21:02, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Weird choice of tag

You have added a tag stating that the translation I'm working on is a rough translation of the German entry. How can I put this politely? It really isn't. Did you look at the German entry? Did you look at the source links? Looking at how many different tasks you managed to squeeze into your available time, I think maybe you did not look at very much. For better or worse or both, the entry in its current state owes a lot more to the sources cited than to the entry in German wikipedia. The German entry DOES give a basic chronology, but once you start googling around to find live source links, there really is a whole lot more.

I may be being dumb, but I've no idea what you are trying to achieve with this. These tags may only take five seconds to apply, but you really do need to think a little longer than ten seconds when selecting them. There are wiki policies and guidelines to that effect, but ultimately I think such things are best treated as matters of common sense.

Dear Peter Sam Fan, I should like to remove your tag, but I have no wish to get into a pissing context over something which is not very important with someone about whom I know nothing. Therefore, I ask first. Would you mind if I were to remove this strange tag?

Regards Charles01 (talk) 16:17, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Charles01: No, I don't mind, but please remove the German first. Peter Sam Fan 16:19, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The German - assuming you mean what I think you probably mean - is concealed I mean like this. It helps me to progress the entry. The reader does not see it. Wikipedia exists, in the first instance, for it's readers, not for nerdy wiki-contributors such as thee and me.
What, exactly, is your own problem with this? Regards Charles01 (talk) 16:24, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Charles01: If you are working on the article, I have no problem with it. Just add {{Under Construction}} to the top of the article. Peter Sam Fan 19:22, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Because you deserve it! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:03, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Peter Sam Fan 14:55, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Tech News: 2016-18

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The visual editor now works when you use Internet Explorer 9. [11]

Problems

  • There was a security problem with the MobileFrontend extension. It showed information that had been oversighted. This has now been fixed. [12]

Changes this week

Meetings

Future changes

  • Pages could be added to new users' watchlists by default when they edit them. New users could also by default get email notifications when pages they watch are edited. This is discussed on Meta. [14]

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20:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Speedy tagging

This was too hasty. An author should be allowed at least a few minutes (I generally use 15 minutes of idle time) to flesh out an article. Authors often create the article with the bare minimum content just to "reserve" the page. (Not necessary, but a common error among new editors.) Tagging such an article immediately (in under 1 minute in this case) is very WP:BITEy, and discourages new editors from trying to create any content. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:58, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiDan61: I should really learn not to do that. Thanks anyway! Peter Sam Fan 14:58, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rick Scott article

I tried to make a point. I didn't do it right, I understand that. But that article on Governor Rick Scott -- mainly the last half -- is very biased and only focuses on supposed mistakes, failures or controversies. There is little to no discussion of his accomplishments. I STRONGLY feel you should mark it with a warning that it may be biased. I would appreciate you taking a look at it and considering my suggestion. I am sure you would not let whatever political opinions you personally hold to influence your decision. I don't think the author was fair and balanced in their approach. Thanks. Daniel Shumway (danielshumway@yahoo.com). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.162.111.139 (talk) 04:37, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Wikipedia marks to see if it's "biased" or not. I didn't even know he existed before. Peter Sam Fan 13:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for this edit. JumpiMaus (talk) 15:34, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@JumpiMaus: Thanks! Peter Sam Fan 15:35, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Littlstar

Information icon Hello Peter SamFan. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know, however, that you shouldn't tag pages as lacking context (CSD A1) and content (CSD A3) moments after they are created, as you did at Littlstar. It is also suggested that pages that might meet CSD A7 criteria not be tagged for deletion immediately after they are created. It's usually best to wait at least 10–15 minutes for more content to be added if the page is very short, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Tagging such pages in a very short space of time may drive away well-meaning contributors, which is not good for Wikipedia. Attack pages (G10), blatant nonsense (G1), copyright violations (G12) and pure vandalism/blatant hoaxes (G3) should of course be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks.Template:Z149.

Tech News: 2016-19

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Wikiversities now have better access to Wikidata. They can use data from any page on Wikidata on any page on Wikiversity. This happened on May 3. [15]
  • You can use Wikipedia GapFinder to find missing articles between languages. [16]
  • Users are invited to try Cross-wiki Notifications on all wikis. This is the last test session before the release by default, scheduled for May 12th at 23:00 UTC. [17][18]
  • You can use keyboard shortcuts to open the visual editor (meta+V) or the wikitext editor (meta+E) (on certain wikis, even if you have chosen a favorite editor). [19]
  • Uploading files bigger than 100 megabytes on Wikimedia Commons required to opt-in in your preferences. This is not necessary anymore. [20]
  • The UploadsLink extension is now available on Wikimedia Commons. [21]
  • Deleting a translation unit page didn't remove the corresponding content from the translation page. This is now solved. [22]
  • Translation suggestions based on Apertium are now available on Mediawiki.org. [23]

Problems

  • MediaWiki 1.27.0-wmf.23 has been rolled back from Wikimedia wikis, due to a performance issue. [24]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 10. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 11. It will be on all wikis from May 12 (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Today, in categories, a page titled "11" comes before "2". We plan to reorder that: "2" will come before "11". Please tell the developers if the change will cause problems. [25]

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23:23, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

AfC comment

I noticed your comment on Draft:Dennis Hopeless. I'm a little surprised; a lack of a birthdate is not a reason to not accept a draft, particularly for a living person where such information may not be widely available. In fact, WP:BLPPRIVACY argues that adding a birthdate may be inappropriate. If that was the only objection, the draft should be accepted as-is. Huon (talk) 21:37, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

MSTA

I removed those tags because they were added by a member of the MSTA who disputed the neutrality of the article on the basis that the article presented a neutral point-of-view, rather than pushing what the MSTA calls the truth.

The article is fine.142.105.159.60 (talk) 23:47, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page for "Death of Kendrick Johnson" where person who made edits is not talking.

The subject page was locked to prevent further the edit warring. I reported what appears to be vandalism of the Death of Kendrick Johnson page and made some suggestions. The person who apparently did the editing/vandalism is not talking. It's been over a week. Is there a way that my suggestions can be considered so we can remove the vandalism and get that page back to verifiable references and content that supports verifiable references? VSkolnick (talk) 14:43, 14 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2016-20

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Some image thumbnails now load faster on mobile. They also take up less bandwidth. [26]

Problems

  • Last week's MediaWiki version was late on some wikis. [27]

Changes this week

  • Special:Notifications will have "mark as read" buttons for each day. The non-JavaScript version will get it this week. A JavaScript version will come later. [28]
  • Wikis can now locally decide what wikitext they want the signature button to produce. [29]
  • A one-time welcome message for users will now be shown in the wikitext editor. This will include existing users. [30]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 17. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 18. It will be on all wikis from May 19 (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • Using self-closing tags like <div/> and <span/> to mean <div></div> and <span></span> will not work in the future. Templates and pages that use these tags should be fixed. When Phabricator ticket T134423 is fixed these tags will parse as <div> and <span> instead. This is normal in HTML5. [31]

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16:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Request on 21:24:14, 16 May 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Jesupelumi W


Hi PeterSamFan,

Thank you for taking out time to review my recently created article. I do appreciate your genuine feedback. The reason I am requesting assistance is so that I can be guided on how to get this article created properly. When I saw materials about the concept of Geonetics, it caught my attention because of it's potential possibilities to bring about improvements in the society. Improving the status-quo is something I have a passion for. That is why, with the few materials I found on the web i swung into action to seek collaboration with other in exploring this concept. I had to challenge myself to learn how to create and edit articles on Wikipedia. The fact is that, I alone cannot unravel and describe this concept by myself because, a lot would be left out. So, in order to have more brilliant minds explore this concept with me in a holistic way, I am kindly requesting your assistance in getting this article created in the right way. Thank you for your time.

Jesupelumi W (talk) 21:24, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. Well, you shouldn't make articles that just promote things, and you shouldn't say things like "this type of lotion is better than Aveeno lotion" in articles. You can ask questions at the TEAHOUSE if you need more help. --Peter Sam Fan 21:43, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Help

Hello Peter SamFan I am a student at Marinette Catholic Central. I am writing you because I am working on a school project and that project is to create a Wikipedia page for my school. My edits to the page I created have recently been undone. I believe this is due to a misunderstanding. My school's name has been changed from Marinette Catholic Central to Saint Thomas Aquinas Academy in recent years. We have a Wikipedia page for Saint Thomas Aquinas Academy but we are trying to make a wikipedia page for Marinette Catholic Central High School. I want to do this because the history of Marinette Catholic Central goes all the way back to 1876 and the Saint Thomas Aquinas Academy Page doesn't represent this history accurately. So long story short the Marinette Catholic Central High Scool page keeps getting redirected to Saint Thomas Aquinas Academy. I would greatly appreciate any help or advice you could offer so that I could create an accurate Wikipedia page on Marinette Catholic Central High School.174.102.205.87 (talk) 14:02, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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