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September 6
09:18:09, 6 September 2016 review of submission by Bec colman
- Bec colman (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hello, I recently submitted the page 'Steve Dub'. It was wrongfully rejected on the basis that Steve Dub is not a notable person as he is part of the band the Chemical Brothers and therefore the 3 x Grammy Awards (plus 2 extra nominations) that he has received are null and void. Steve Dub is NOT part of the the band The Chemical Brothers, neither does the article state that he is. Steve Dub is a record producer, engineer and mixer and has been awarded his Grammy's for his engineering work and mixing work on some of their albums. I have provided links to the Grammy Award official site where it states this is the case. It's quite frustrating that somebody can reject this when they clearly haven't understood or read the article properly.
Therefore I don't believe the article needs amending. Please let me know the best way to proceed.
Thank you Bec
Bec colman (talk) 09:18, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Bec colman: Your draft quite clearly states that Dub worked as the producer for the Chemical Brothers and the Grammy website gives the credit for all the awards and nominations to the band, Dubs, and other production staff collectively. Therefore although Dub may not technically be "a member of the band", WP:MUSIC's independent notability criteria still applies and the Grammy awards don't demonstrate his notability. If you want to proceed with the submission, you will have to provide links to significant coverage of Dub in independent sources. Although after some quick research my opinion is that Dub simply isn't notable enough for inclusion at this time. Joe Roe (talk) 12:19, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
09:46:59, 6 September 2016 review of submission by ChristinaAnneMackay
- ChristinaAnneMackay (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
I have referenced most things on my wiki page and the references are respected publications. Why is it still being rejected?
ChristinaAnneMackay (talk) 09:46, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, ChristinaAnneMackay. I assume you are talking about User:ChristinaAnneMackay/sandbox. The main problem is that (based on your surname) you appear to be related to Mackay so you should not really be writing a biography of him per Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy. The second is that your draft contains numerous phrases intended to promote Mackay (e.g. "has considerable international and financial services experience", "Tom worked with a lot of innovative software/internet companies", and the generally exhaustive listing of every single achievement he has made). The third is that it includes many details that can't possibly be verified in reliable sources, presumably because you know him personally (e.g. "During this period he took 9 months off to travel", "Enjoys walking in his beloved Toys Hill woods"). Wikipedia pages are not resumes, they're encyclopaedia articles. They need to neutrally and objectively summarise the major facts or a person's life and their contributions to the enduring historical record that have been previously published in reliable sources. Joe Roe (talk) 12:30, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Request on 17:15:31, 6 September 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Meshellerenee
- Meshellerenee (talk · contribs) (TB)
Good morning,
I've submitted an article for creation and it was declined. I am not quite sure why, can you please help? Thank you!!
Meshellerenee (talk) 17:15, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Meshellerenee. The reviewer's comment (per WP:EL) was brief, but on point. The draft is misusing external links. They are not allowed in the body text. Something like "Some of the life experiences in Davis’s bio were the basis for her first published work, Harlot’s Sauce: A Memoir of Food, Family, Love, Loss, and Greece" would have to be rewritten as "Some of the life experiences in Davis's bio were the basis for her first published work, Harlot's Sauce: A Memoir of Food, Family, Love, Loss, and Greece. Entries like Cooking for Ghosts: Book I in The Secret Spice Café Trilogy (2016) in the list of books would have to be rewritten to not link to a commercial site: Cooking for Ghosts. The Secret Spice Cafe. Vol. Book I. HD Media Press. 2016. ISBN 978-0-9899056-4-0..
- There are numerous other problems with the draft, but the biggest is that you are underestimating how difficult it is to satisfy Wikipedia's inclusion criteria, general notability and notability (authors). PRWeb is not independent; Mill Valley Patch and Book Reels are user-generated; Marin Independent Journal is by a lifestyle columnist, rather than a professional book reviewer; YaSas has none of the hallmarks of a reliable source; The Orange County Register is an interview; and California Arts Council and The Post News are trivial mentions. The only one that helps establish notability is the Marin Independent Journal, and it isn't nearly enough on its own. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:43, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
18:05:58, 6 September 2016 review of submission by 77.242.185.193
- 77.242.185.193 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hi, I started created the article and before I send it for submission I'd like to understand what the process it to improve it/have it ready for review. I'm not an expert at Wikipedia so I was told by an admin to come here and follow the instructions. Thank you!
77.242.185.193 (talk) 18:05, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
- A previous article on this person was deleted after a deletion discussion. Your draft should not be accepted, in my opinion, unless you can show that it establishes notability better than the deleted version did. That would involve requesting that the deleted version be undeleted to user or draft space via a request for undeletion. I don't know whether an unregistered editor has a user space; it would be an excellent idea to establish an account. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:05, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
September 7
02:47:35, 7 September 2016 review of submission by Jeffwb
My article submission was rejected because there was no link to specific information. However, I have a set of 4 articles that are all interrelated. I can't submit any of them and expect to be accepted, because they are all interconnected. So, if I submit the articles that refer to the present submission, they will be rejected, because there is no link to the original article that has been rejected. How do I get past this?
Also, this is my first attempt at Wikipedia. I have a lot of experience with html, wikis, and programming, but I must say that I'm very disappointed by how extremely clunky and user UNfriendly Wikipedia is. I don't even have a clue whether I completed this communication correctly. Maybe using plain and well constructed English would help, as well as creating a simpler and easier to use interface. (e.g., The instructions above say click "Save Page." There is no "Save Page" button. -- This is really basic stuff. You really need someone to clean it up.)
Thanks.
Jeffwb (talk) 02:47, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
- Jeffwb: You are right about the instructions saying "Save Page". What they should say is "Save changes". In principle, I ought to be able to correct this myself. But I have tried, and failed. (I assume that some kind of hidden template in involved. I hope that someone who understands such mysteries will read this and put it right.)
- Your rejected draft was, I assume, Draft:International Bateson Institute. You have also asked about this at the Teahouse. I have tried to answer there. Maproom (talk) 20:57, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
02:57:59, 7 September 2016 review of submission by Grahamsmithwick
Editor JMHamo rejected this edit as "This submission seems to be a test edit and not an article worthy of an encyclopedia." How do I comply? I do not intend to submit "an article", but rather a one line inertion edit to an existing page. Thank you /s/ Grahamsmithwick (talk) 02:57, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hello Grahamsmithwick. Articles for creation is for new articles. If you would like to edit an existing article, simply navigate to that page and click "Edit" at the top. You might find this video tutorial helpful. Joe Roe (talk) 22:30, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
15:51:59, 7 September 2016 review of submission by Curtiscowan
- Curtiscowan (talk · contribs) (TB)
Curtiscowan (talk) 15:51, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
- The article in question is User:Curtiscowan/sandbox. It was declined as having no references. The other problem is that it appears to be an autobiography, and the submission of autobiographies is strongly discouraged. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:58, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
15:53:22, 7 September 2016 review of submission by Swati G Bhise
- Swati G Bhise (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hello, it's been a couple of weeks since I submitted the Wikipedia page for review. I just wanted to know does the review normally take this long? A friend mentioned that their view took a day or so. Please advise when you have an opportunity. Thank you and warmest regards,
Swati G Bhise 15:53, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Swati G Bhise. I'm afraid several weeks is normal, as the AfC process is very backlogged at the moment. Joe Roe (talk) 22:25, 7 September 2016 (UTC)r
September 8
10:34:13, 8 September 2016 review of submission by Jur Schuurman
- Jur Schuurman (talk · contribs) (TB)
Dear AfC helpdesk,
Twice already my draft page on Land Governance has been rejected. First by LaMona in June, later by Bradv in July. What both their motivations boiled down to was that the text was too much essay-like and not fact-based. I have tried to correct this in the draft (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Land_governance), but before submitting it for a third time I would like to also have your opinion on the essayistic or factual nature of my text, as well as your assessment on what could still be needed to have a successful submission. I would be very grateful for that.
In addition to this general comment by both reviewers, there was one remark by Bradv about 'the rest of the project' which I did not understand. I asked him about it (twice, on the 1st and the 6th of September - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bradv), but I did not receive any reply. By means of the live help chat I was informed that he has not been active since August 4. Perhaps he has ceased to be a Wikipedia editor? And if so, do you know what 'the project' is that he referred to?
Thanks in advance for your help! Yours,
Jur Schuurman (talk) 10:34, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Jur Schuurman. "The project" is usually synonymous with Wikipedia, the headline project hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation.
- To show where this topic fits in, try distilling it to a single sourced paragraph, and insert that among the other types in Governance. Not all types have stand alone articles. Public governance, for example, is covered by public administration, forest governance is a subsection of sustainable forest management, and political party governance redirects to political party. Wikipedia favors large, comprehensive articles, so consider whether the topic could be covered adequately in some existing article.
- Is it a subtype of another type of governance? There's probabaly a relationship, for example, among environmental governance, earth system governance, climate governance, and ocean governance, although the articles don't make clear what it is. Another way to show how it fits in is to propose categories at the bottom of the draft.
[[:Category:Governance]]
is an obvious start, but what other existing categories would be appropriate?
- Another problem with the draft is that it misuses external links. If a subject such as "Committee on World Food Security" has a Wikipedia article, an internal link may be used, like this: Committee on World Food Security, but an external link, like this: Committee on World Food Security may not be used within the body of the article. In certain cases, external links can be converted into references, if they support some statement of fact (beyond simply the existence of an organization).
- The draft is also missing a lede. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:08, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
12:45:22, 8 September 2016 review of submission by Billquinn ky
- Billquinn ky (talk · contribs) (TB)
Thanks to the reviewers and everyone in the community so far. I am ready for another edit and re-submission. The goal is to capture the present objective and historical facts around a band that has been established for 2 years, but is still considered very young in age, while they are on the rise in their region I feel it is important to capture these objective facts. With already having 2 submissions rightfully declined (in June & July) on lack of notability and lack of verifiable resources, I have spent some time in the last two months focused on who things:
1) criteria here, https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music) Specifically
- 1 - someone else writing about the band in verifiable national publication
- 4 - proof a tour with national notability
- 7 - establish "most important representatives of a notable style or the most important of the local scene of a city"
All objective claims will be in support of these guidelines and criteria.
2) I have collected independent and verifiable references from long-standing news sources (not blogs). ALL references will replaced with these.
I would just like some guidance as to whether this seems like it will be a change of approach that will allow the article to pass?
Billquinn ky (talk) 12:45, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- I assume that this is about Draft:Johnny Conqueroo. It cites four sources, but only one, the Lexington Herald Leader, contains significant discussion of the subject. I doubt that that is enough to establish notability. Maproom (talk) 17:07, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- That's the notability guideline for the Simple English Wikipedia. This is the English Wikipedia. See music notability guidelines. Although they appear to be almost the same, each Wikipedia has its own guidelines. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:28, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- I also suggest you read "Up-and-coming next big thing". --Orange Mike | Talk 13:47, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
September 9
14:47:52, 9 September 2016 review of submission by Ragnorc
Hello, I am writing an article about Joseph Comerford. I also have many newspaper sources that are offline. I didn't include them as the reviewers cannot access them. I have copies of them. Should I scan them? Kind regards,
Ragnorc (talk) 14:47, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Ragnorc. Offline sources are perfectly acceptable. Reviewers may be able to access more than you think. There's no need to scan them, but it can be helpful to add a |quote= parameter to the inline citation (see Wikipedia:Offline sources). The technique can be useful with online sources as well. Try it with the sources currently used to support the statement "Joe Comerford was murdered". Is that an accurate paraphrase of any of them?
- Use the offline newspaper sources to replace sources, such as www.congoforum.be, that do not fit Wikipedia's definition of reliable sources. Quality of sources if far more important than quantity. The draft already cites three major newspapers. Citing three more containing significant coverage of the topic would be good, but citing fifteen brief mentions of the topic would be bad if the information is already supported by reliable sources. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:57, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi Worldbruce, thank you for your advice. Should I now continue doing research on Joseph Comerford or will it be declined because of a lack of notability?
- @Ragnorc: That's a difficult question to answer. You say that you have many offline newspaper sources, but we can't evaluate them without you saying what they are (author, if identified; date; article title; newspaper; page, if known) and what you're using them to support.
- New editors are often advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain a significant depth of coverage. The Guardian is one such source. Another suitable piece is: "Family Tell of Schock at Aid Worker's Suicide". Evening Standard. London. 25 August 2000. One of the sources that isn't reliable itself implies that there may have been a substantive piece in The Sunday Times. There are other independent, reliable, secondary sources that may not individually contain in-depth coverage, but which provide background and perhaps in aggregate contain substantial coverage not found elsewhere. The Independent and The New York Times fall into this category. Another might be: "Damned Soul of the Congo". Sunday Herald. Glasgow. 20 August 2000. All of which is promissing, and suggests that further research would be worthwhile.
- The notability guidelines to bear in mind for this topic have to do with events and people notable for only one event. They are complex, so I suggest you read them carefully: WP:ONEEVENT, WP:BLP1E, and WP:EVENT. Not everything that merits a newspaper article also warrants an encyclopedia article. The case for a biography could be strengthened if you have coverage from before his death. The case for an article "Death of Joseph Comerford" could be strengthened if there's coverage that shows lasting impact, such as a causal relationship between his death and the creation of the IJC. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:04, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you very much for that, Worldbruce I also have access to internal UN documents and documents from the chancellery dealing with the case. How can these be included? Some documents also deal with some issues about Mark Malloch Brown. Kind regards, Ragnorc (talk)
- @Ragnorc: "Internal" sounds like "unpublished", which may not be included in Wikipedia. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:20, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
18:38:08, 9 September 2016 review of submission by AmyJudgeWeaver
- AmyJudgeWeaver (talk · contribs) (TB)
I need help I saw a comedian last night with my boy friend and weve seen him a bunch of times now so I went to look up some info on him last night and noticed he didn't have a wiki page. I tried and obviously failed to start one wit the hopes someone who know what they are doing can and will finish it. Please help I dont know what Imdoing, im not a writer, and I really just want to fiond out more. I emailed his assistant and she said she could help with any verification stuff.
Thank you for your help!
AmyJudgeWeaver (talk) 18:38, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi AmyJudgeWeaver. Wikipedia articles cover notable topics—those that have gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time. We consider evidence from reliable independent sources to gauge this attention. There is no significant coverage of the topic in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, so it is not a suitable topic for Wikipedia at this time. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:24, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
September 10
10:18:04, 10 September 2016 review of submission by Nooruddin.etcs
- Nooruddin.etcs (talk · contribs) (TB)
Hi,
I have submitted article named Sina_Valiollah and it got declined and reviewer asked me to add citations. Than I have added citations as per the suggestions, read the guidelines and implemented citation. I have resubmitted the article and I think its more than a week and still didn't got any reply whether is approved or declined. Let me know when this article will be live ? what kind of procedure I need to follow next ?
- Hi Nooruddin.etcs. There are drafts that have been waiting for review since August 1, so expect it to take another month for a reviewer to reach Draft:Sina Valiollah. Use the time to continue to improve it, or check out other ways to help out. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:32, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- Please do not use Wikipedia as a reference. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:46, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
20:56:33, 10 September 2016 review of submission by Tul1969
How can I get my submission of Ruediger Thalmann reviewed....it is now very old...
Tul1969 (talk) 20:56, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hello Tul1969. I'm afraid your draft was never submitted. It looks like you wrote it in the Sandbox, which is a page for test edits that is regularly periodically cleared out. The good news is your draft is not lost, you can retrieve it from the sandbox's history here. Please use the article wizard to submit it for review. Joe Roe (talk) 02:11, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
September 11
18:36:40, 11 September 2016 review of submission by Tul1969
I submitted a biography for Ruediger Thalmann using the article wizard at 20;53, 26 July 2016 from the sandbox and when I click on it in sandbox i see the following:
Review waiting.
This may take a week or more. The Articles for creation process is backlogged. Please be patient. There are 784 submissions waiting for review.
If the submission is accepted, then this page will be moved into the article space. If the submission is declined, then the reason will be posted here. Please check back here later to see the outcome of your request. In the meantime, you can continue to improve this article by pressing the "Edit" tab at the top of the window. If you require extra help, please ask a question on the Articles for creation help desk or get help at our live help chat from experienced editors. Please note that these help venues are only for assistance editing or submitting your article – not for requesting that your submission be reviewed.
Questions: 1. did I successfully submit it for review? 2. How do I recruit help to get it reviewed and accepted? 3. Where do the reviewers find the submission for review?
Thanks.
Tul1969 (talk) 18:36, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
- As mentioned above, you did not successfully submit it for review, because you composed it in Wikipedia's public sandbox rather than in your user sandbox. It has been erased, but it can be recovered and moved into draft space. Do you want someone to help you move it into draft space? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:01, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
September 12
06:53:43, 12 September 2016 review of submission by 212.50.99.23
- 212.50.99.23 (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
212.50.99.23 (talk) 06:53, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Dear Sirs
Please advise why our article was decline, it was FXPRIMUS
Thank you
- Draft:FXPRIMUS was declined because it read like something written by the company to promote itself rather than like an encyclopedia article written by a dispassionate observer. Even if that were fixed, it would be declined because no arms-length, reliable, secondary sources are cited. It may be unrealistic of you to expect a company barely 18-months old to have had the significant and demonstrable effects that would justify its inclusion here. Based on the cited sources, the subject does not appear to be a suitable topic for a stand alone encyclopedia article. Wikipedia is not for advertising, marketing, or public relations. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:18, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Request on 12:22:05, 12 September 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Lecobe
Hello, I am working on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Christian_Kerez
I would like to know, if there's still information missing and what I have to ad. On the same person, there are existing articles on wiki in german and french and a lot
of articles in the web. Could you please help me ? Thank you ! Lecobe (talk) 12:22, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Lecobe (talk) 12:22, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Lecobe. The section titled "Bibliography (Selection)" is confusing because the word "bibliography" is ambiguous. It the section meant to be a selection of publications Kerez has authored/edited/contributed to? Are these sources for the content of the draft? Are they "further reading", publications not already used as sources that would help the reader gain a fuller understanding of the topic? See MOS:APPENDIX. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:13, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Worldbruce. Thanks! You are right. I moved it below the reflist, this is where it should be. These are the books that helped me for the text and the information given in the article. Do you see other things to change or ad ? Lecobe (talk) 15:49, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
12:50:34, 12 September 2016 review of submission by 24.178.16.54
- 24.178.16.54 (talk · contribs) (TB)
Can you tell me how I can improve the references and make the subject more notable. I read the info for references but am still not sure what I need to do.
24.178.16.54 (talk) 12:50, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
13:16:31, 12 September 2016 review of submission by AbbotsMoss
- AbbotsMoss (talk · contribs) (TB)
I re-submitted the Article with references attached. Please advise whether it now meets the necessary requirements.AbbotsMoss (talk) 13:16, 12 September 2016 (UTC) AbbotsMoss (talk) 13:16, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
15:02:53, 12 September 2016 review of submission by Norman777111
I (Norman777111) have created the page "Gala Wilton F.C." successfully, and it has been live for a few months.
I was just about to make some updates when I have now seen that it has been deleted without any notification why.
Do you know how I can chase this up?
The page was as follows:
Copy of article
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Gala Wilton F.C. are an English football club based in Longford in Gloucestershire, currently playing in the Gloucestershire County Football League. The club is affiliated to the Gloucestershire County FA. HistoryGala Wilton was formed in 1952 when a group of friends from the Wilton Road area of Gloucester City created a side known as 'Wilton Rovers'. Initially they played their football in the North Gloucestershire League gaining limited success winning the FJ Pope Cup in 1956-57 and Division 1 in 1959-60. In 1970 the club moved to their present home at the Gala Club in Longford and in 1971 were elected to the Gloucestershire Northern Senior League[2] winning Division 2 in the first year. In 1972, they were again promoted into the Gloucestershire County Football League where they played for 12 seasons before relegation down to the Gloucestershire Northern Senior League. Gala Wilton were promoted back to the Gloucestershire County Football League[3] in the 2012 season under the leadership of manager Jay Kelly, also winning the Reg Davis cup for the second consecutive season. Jay stood down in 2014 after getting promotion leading to a frantic search for a new manager. [4] Gala Wilton have now been given approval for floodlights and a spectator area from Gloucester City Council planning. [5] In March 2015, the Gala Wilton Veterans lost 2-1 to the Aston Villa Old Stars in a charity match to support the Hollie Gazzard trust. [6] [7] Gala Wilton Reserves are currently top of Cheltenham League Division One. [8]
RecordGala Wilton have the following record in the Gloucestershire County Football League: [9]
TeamsThe club runs the following teams:
CommitteeThe club is managed by a Committee comprising the Team Managers, the Chairman, Jesse Smith, the Secretary, Terry Onions and Programme Editor, Paul Bowers. DirectionsFrom Bristol, Leave Junction 11 of M5 and turn towards Gloucester at next roundabout turn towards Ross on Wye and at next roundabout turn left towards city centre. Then take second left, after about 350 yards, into Fairmile Gardens where Gala Wilton’s ground can be found. [10] Team squadsVeterans team squadNote: Flags indicate national team as defined under FIFA eligibility rules. Players may hold more than one non-FIFA nationality.
References
External links
51°52′45.1″N 2°14′11.6″W / 51.879194°N 2.236556°W Category:Gloucestershire County Football League Category:Football clubs in Gloucestershire Category:1952 establishments in England |
Norman777111 (talk) 15:02, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
17:01:29, 12 September 2016 review of submission by L00k1ngu9
Good morning,
I would like to know if I can create the article I have already submitted to AfC directly in the public space of Wikipedia. I do not want the article to be flagged as spam, but I also do not want to wait months for the article to become available to my community. I understand the article will still be subject to review and correction.
Thank you!
L00k1ngu9 (talk) 17:01, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
18:57:07, 12 September 2016 review of submission by Actor Dharmendra Singh
- Actor Dharmendra Singh (talk · contribs) (TB)
- No draft specified!
Dharmendra Singh 18:57, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Kindly tell me the reason why my post has been declined? What should I do for making it live.