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Recommend to Remove Racist Language
It is a misdemeanor to cross into the United States illegally and if done repeatedly can become a felony.
The correct word used to describe a person that lacks documentation is "undocumented". The correct non-racist terminology is "undocumented tourist" for visitors with an expired visa, "undocumented foreign born worker" when the employer failed to pay the documentation fee for a foreign born worker, "undocumented foreign born student" for exchange students with an expired visa, "undocumented foreign born resident" for people living in the US with an expired visa, etc.
The term "illegal immigrant" is only applicable to foreign born citizens found guilty of a crime, but the term is being used in this article to describe people that "look foreign" and lack documentation.
Many people born before 1959 in Hawaii and Alaska are undocumented because they cannot obtain a valid US birth certificate. Most people born before 1940 in places like Arizona and Oklahoma are undocumented because valid US birth certificate were not issued. Descendants of over 1 million US citizens deported to Mexico in the 1930s are also US citizens. All are undocumented. None of those people are "illegal", but the article implies that they are all criminals. The debate on immigration is a controversial subject.
"Illegal immigrant" or "illegal alien" would only be acceptable in a quote:
- Arizona’s Conservative White Legislators: Illiterate and Racist on Immigration
- SB 1070 is at best an inflammatory law and will surely come to serve as a rationale to justify violent attacks by the misguided against persons who appear to “look illegal.” ... Indeed, it is this ecology of fear that led to the murder of a young legal Ecuadorian immigrant in the Bushwick section of Brooklyn on December 7, 2008. The perpetrators of this crime were white youth who, like those convicted last month on Long Island for a similar crime, were out “Beaner hopping” or hunting for “illegal aliens.”
The difficulty is that the kind of racist language used in this article is being used to encourage genocidal behavior.
- In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
- (a) Killing members of the group;
- (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
- (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
- (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Non-academic examples of how the terms "illegal immigrant" and "illegal alien" communicate racism help to illustrate how this article compromises the intellectual integrity and charity status of Wikipedia.
- The anti-illegal immigrant agenda is about promoting xenophobia and nativism that has surfaced at various times in our history.
- Those who agree with Mr. Vargas say “illegal” should be banned because it suggests that “illegal immigrants” are criminals, which often isn’t true.
- Texas trooper in chopper shoots, kills 2 suspected illegal immigrants
- TEXAS ASKS FBI TO INVESTIGATE HELICOPTER SHOOTING
- Colorado Gas Station Caught Selling “Illegal Immigrant Hunting Permit” Sticker
- Gas Station Pulls Racist 'Illegal Immigrant Hunting Permit' Bumper Stickers
- Oops! You're racist.
- Taco Cid ... in Columbia, S.C., .. produced ... the T-shirt includes an image of a wooden trap with tacos used as bait and a caption that reads: “How to catch an illegal immigrant.”
- Charles Garcia created a stir among many conservatives recently when he defended and parroted allegations that using the term “illegal immigrant” is a racist slur.
- Mexican Restaurant Causes Commotion over “Racist T-shirt”
- Hundreds Protest NYU Republicans’ Racist “Illegal Immigrant” Hunt
- Immigrant tuition petition drive is all about bigotry
All Americans Are Immigrants
You seem to fail to mentions the Pre-Columbian era from your Native American article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States). All Americans are immigrants even 'Native Americans', for that matter everyone in the world not living in the Olduvai Gorge are immigrants. So Trump's anti-immigrant stance is in line with US History of ostracizing, rejecting, bullying and attempting to block new immigrants from coming to the US. Americans like to proclaim, "We are a Nation of Immigrants!" But the sad fact is this country has an appalling record of treatment of immigrants until the hast half of the last century. Please add a short segment that refers to when Native Americans immigrated during the Pre-Columbian period and a link to that info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:8204:E00:71E2:5EB3:ECB:3E62 (talk) 15:38, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Sorry I beg to differ. The U.S. in the past has not ostracized, bullied or rejected immigrants to this nation any more than any other country does on this planet, and to assert this is to reveal an incredibly obvious anti-American sentiment. Many immigrants (especially Moslems) to Europe have NOT experienced welcoming arms; quite the opposite. So you can take your political statement and rethink it, although I doubt you will. I'd hate to be an American immigrant to your country. I know I'd be bullied, ostracized etc. by evidence of your statements.
"US History of ostracizing, rejecting, bullying and attempting to block new immigrants from coming to the US"
While you are correct that the United States has a long history of anti-immigrant sentiment, I think this is better covered in the article Nativism. It already covers Anti-Catholic, Anti-German, and Anti-Chinese sentiment in the United States. Dimadick (talk) 13:33, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
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Education paragraph
This paragraph doesn't make much sense:
"A 2015 study using correspondence tests "found that when considering requests from prospective students seeking mentoring in the future, faculty were significantly more responsive to White males than to all other categories of students, collectively, particularly in higher-paying disciplines and private institutions."[174] Through affirmative action, there is reason to believe that elite colleges favor minority applicants.[175]
It doesn't have anything to do with immigration statistics. It's just a general paragraph that doesn't mention anything regarding the education of immigrants, the number of immigrants who graduate from high school, college, etc. It should be deleted since it provides no relevant info. Minority applicants may be any minority, and not necessarily immigrants. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.252.183.253 (talk) 23:55, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
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