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RM, 2016 United States election interference by Russia → Grizzly Steppe, Not moved, 30 December 2016, /Archive 3#Requested move 30 December 2016
RM, 2016 United States election interference by Russia → Allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, No consensus, 7 January 2017, /Archive 3#Requested move 7 January 2017
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In the "Social media and internet trolls" section, please replace the missing citation

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<ref>{{cite news|title=Facebook could tell us how Russia interfered in our elections. Why won’t it?|url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/facebook-could-tell-us-how-russia-interfered-in-our-elections-why-wont-it/2017/05/19/c061a606-3b21-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html|date=May 20, 2017|newspaper=The Washington Post|last1=Howard|first1=Philip N.|last2=Gorwa|first2=Robert}}</ref>

thanks, 209.6.209.51 (talk) 14:27, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Geogene (talk) 15:34, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The New Yorker sourced in the Russian reaction section

This particular locus being edited today [1], [2] is an example of fluff that's really only bloating the article. Not every anonymous member of the Duma is significant enough to be mentioned as an individual opinion, especially when it seems to be a typical one in Russia. What that source [3] would be useful for instead is summarizing what it says is a common perspective in Russia: they deny the hacking, while claiming moral justification for something they insist they didn't do. The fact that they perceive American conspiracies throughout their own recent politics would give more useful background as far as establishing motive. Geogene (talk) 16:55, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Committee to Investigate Russia

This organization's website is a treasure trove of information and RS, and we can use those sources. The Advisory Board is quite distinguished:

Advisory Board

Max Boot Military Historian and Foreign Policy Analyst
James Clapper Former Director of National Intelligence
Evelyn Farkas, Ph.D. Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia/Ukraine/Eurasia
General Michael Hayden Former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency
Jeh Johnson Former U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security
Michael Morell Former Acting Director of the CIA
Norman Ornstein American Enterprise Institute Resident Scholar
Leon Panetta Former Secretary of Defense, Former Director of the CIA, and Former White House Chief of Staff
Rob Reiner Director, Actor, and Activist
Charles Sykes Conservative Commentator
Clint Watts Foreign Policy Research Institute Fellow and Former FBI Agent

Committee to Investigate Russia. Check it out. You may find useful content from the RS it mentions. -- BullRangifer (talk) 07:24, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

From the names on the board, looks very partisan: a gallery of certified anti-Trumpers.

— JFG ^talk 20:32, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A very astute observation.

It sorta makes sense. There are those who really know what's going on (Team America: several with top security clearance and experience, using RS), and those who are allied in their public denials because they are on the same team (Team Russia: Putin, Trump, GOP, using poor sources). The latter are under criminal investigation. -- BullRangifer (talk) 20:45, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Anti-Trumper" is just name-calling and debases the organization and its principals -- as if they had no civic motive in providing this platform for public access. More significantly, it's not a useful comment for WP editors to hang their hats on. An external link to this very useful website was suppressed shortly after the organization was formed and IMO should now -- with their track record of well-sourced content -- be restored to this article. SPECIFICO talk 22:13, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This website should at least be added to the list of external links. I'm not sure it could be used as a reliable source though.- Mr X 🖋 22:56, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support adding as an external link. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:58, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes to EL, and use the RS it uses as references. -- BullRangifer (talk) 23:11, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

FYI interested editors RE: 2018 elections

Please see Russian interference in the 2018 United States elections and its AfD. SPECIFICO talk 23:43, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Schiff: "Ample Evidence" of Collusion

NOTE. Do NOT use that as a RS, but look at the RS it uses. They are totally fair game. -- BullRangifer (talk) 05:16, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

|For what?Slatersteven (talk) 13:11, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE - Use the original sources: Guardian [4] and USA Today [5] C. W. Gilmore (talk) 13:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Indictment of 13 Russian operatives

Outlined a few points:

No Americans were aware they were working for Russians.
Russians worked to undermine confidence in American election system and worked to sow discord by organizing rallies to both support and oppose Trump after the election including supporting both Pro and Anti Trump rallies in NYC.
No evidence that the influence altered the election.

--DHeyward (talk) 18:43, 16 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]