Talk:Dodo

Extinction of Dodo

I believe the Dutch settlers/invaders had much to do with Dodo extinction as they started using it to replace poultry as it's meat was considered highly exquisite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.26.207.170 (talk) 17:33, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't think people ate Dodos, but I do know for a fact that Dodo eggs were eaten by invasive rats Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 22:08, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

That would be a hard "fact" to prove since you probably weren't there in the 16th century. In the world of reality we call that "hearsay". What you claim to "know" you didn't witness. Maybe you read it somewhere and therefore it's not first-hand knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.12.162.211 (talk) 08:48, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Humans did eat dodos, accounts and bones prove this, but the question is whether it contributed to their extinction. FunkMonk (talk) 22:12, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2016

Early explorers call the Dodo the "Devil's Chicken." Candyboy808 (talk) 01:14, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Not according to any sources I know of. FunkMonk (talk) 01:23, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:16, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Not sure if this is relevant, but at one point there's a typo mentioning the year "20011" instead of "2011". Tried to change it but obviously cannot due to the "devil's chicken".

Quite relevant, now fixed. FunkMonk (talk) 18:24, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Dodo multiple award winning short story, addition reverted

Under ‎Cultural significance I added the below about a multiple award winning short story about the dodo. But it was reverted as "This is not a notable appearance."

Opinions, please? Worthy? Should I have added "In Popular Culture", and add it there?

I understand Howard Waldrop may not be in the same league as with Hilaire Belloc and Lewis Carroll, but their works are mentioned under Cultural significance.

"The Ugly Chickens" by Howard Waldrop starts with a casual conversation. A woman comments upon seeing a picture of a dodo how a neighbor kept this bird on his Mississippi farm when she was a little girl in the late 1920s. "The Ugly Chickens" won the Nebula Award for best novelette in 1980, and the World Fantasy Award for Short Fiction in 1981, and was printed in the annual years best of for both awards.

What does this tell about the cultural significance of the dodo which isn't already stated? See WP:Trivia. It is just one of hundreds of references to dodo in world literature, nothing particularly significant about it. If we wanted to mention every single cultural appearance of a dodo, it would easily fill up an entire article. FunkMonk (talk) 22:28, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

How has "The Ugly Chickens" affect the public's perception of the dodo? Has it had a long-lasting affect?--Mr Fink (talk) 22:44, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Truth, it's only a short story about what did become of the dodo in America. There are many references, but how many short stories solely about the dodo? And I admit, no long lasting effect. Actually I went to to wiki to look for the author. And at the end of the fascinating entry, not finding the author (Howard Waldrop who has his own wiki) I thought to add for anyone curious. I thank you both for commenting, and has knowing about this award winning short story made either of your curious to read it? ~~KenJacowitz (talk) 01:27, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, nothing wrong with the story, but when you have an example of a literary appearance like Alice in Wonderland, any other addition pales in comparison. That book has helped shape the public perception of the dodo. FunkMonk (talk) 08:30, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

"The Ugly Chicken" is an EXTREMELY FAMOUS story, having won the Nebula and World Fantasy Awards, and been included in the annual Year's Best as previously stated. People who read and love SF and fantasy (which includes Alice-lovers!) are well-acquainted with it. To say that it's "not a notable appearance" is false. 2604:2000:F64D:FC00:59B8:559:F394:6F8B (talk) 23:45, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2017

Early explorers called the Dodo the "Devil's Chicken." A source: Day, David (2012). Nevermore: A Book of Hours – Meditations on Extinction. ISBN 978-1-926802-68-8. 89.66.254.10 (talk) 01:15, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Never read that anywhere, sounds dubious. FunkMonk (talk) 13:45, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

A citation: The Portuguese were the first Europeans to briefly encounter the Dodo, but the Dutch were the first to record its existance. Sometimes called the “Devil’s Chicken,” the Dodo’s desirability as food for sailors varied with the seasons. When fruit was abundant, it was succulent, but during the lean season, the flesh was very tough and ill-tasting. 89.66.254.10 (talk) 14:55, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Almost all old accounts are printed in Errol Fuller's dodo book, and none of them use such a name. We'd need a quote of the exact old source to confirm this. FunkMonk (talk) 18:20, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 03:12, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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Citation style consistency

I have asked Jonesey95 (see talk page discussion for details[1]) to change the citation style back to what I used originally when writing this, since it is now a hodgepodge of two styles. The problem is that the style had been changed by another editor (who did not write text or ask about changing the style first) by the time the article passed FAC, so it would be best to gain a consensus first before changing it back. The style I propose is that used in Broad-billed parrot and most of the other articles I've nominated for FAC, which is now used for the citations under "Footnotes" in the dodo article. Pinging the original FAC commentators, if they are still here: Lucky102, Kingroyos, Crisco 1492, Nikkimaria, Amandajm, Jimfbleak, Casliber, Stfg, GrahamColm. FunkMonk (talk) 16:38, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Fine with me Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:14, 14 May 2018 (UTC)