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Secular marriage

The article currently states that "all marriages performed inside Israel are religious marriages." However, the Religion in Israel article indicates that as many as 37% of Israelis are atheist or agnostic. It seems strange that a country with such a high number of non-religious folk would have no provision for secular marriages. Can someone provide a citation for the claim that all Israeli marriages are religious? —Psychonaut 00:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Such is the dichotomy of Israeli society. LeaHazel : talk : contribs 18:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can explain... only religious leaders of "recognized" religions are authorized to perform marriages. There is no civil authority that can marry. So unlike most countries, you can't go to city hall or a judge and ask to be married. Marriage is exclusively under religious jurisdiction. This causes problems for divorce in Israel, since the Family Law Courts can settle child custody battles and alimony, but they can't issue a divorce decree. Also only "recognized" religions can perform marriage... so Judaism, Islam, and some forms of Christianity (Catholic, Eastern Orthodox etc.) are able to marry, but if you come from an 'unrecognized', then you can't marry. You also can't 'inter-marry' people of different religions. As for the dichotomy between secularism and the current laws, it's just apathy and also people revert to conservatism in politics-- they may be secular, but they support more religious political parties out of traditionalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.112.134.122 (talk) 11:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Full recognition?

Article says:

It should be noted that rhetorically the recognition is only for the purpose of registration which entitles married couples to a variety of rights. However, it is for all practical purposes a full recognition.

I just read the following at [1]:

The high court ruling only directs the government to record the marriages for the purpose of collecting statistics. It does not require that the marriage receive official recognition or that the couples receive any of the rights of marriage.

So, which rights do they get, if any? It would be good if the article had this information. -René van Buuren 02:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

אלמה מאטר Says:
The second option is right. This articl is plainly wrong. If you read the parallel hebrew article, you can see it states the exact opposite. As it explains, gay marriage are not recognized in Israel, period. It does not matter if they are performed in foriegn countries or in Israel. so far, gay marriage have never been recognized by any law or any court in Israel. Also, registration does not entitle married couples any rights whatsoever. None. When foreign gay marriage are registrated (and they are registered in Israel), it has no legal significane. for the most, it can serve as evidence for the couple to be "married by habbit" (which is not marriage). אלמה מאטר 19:44, 03 May 2012 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.179.200.234 (talk)

Same sex marriage between Jews not allowed in Israel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ-VkydBHsU — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.1.213 (talk) 15:55, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Library of Congress analysis

The Library of Congress has attempted to analyze marriage law in Israel.[2]. It's complicated. See the sections on "Overseas Marriages as a Circumvention of Religious Law Impediments" and "Gay Couples’ Partnerships". John Nagle (talk) 06:34, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Same-sex marriage in Israel → Recognition of same-sex unions in Israel – Per consistency with other countries that have not yet legalized same-sex marriage. 174.114.211.255 (talk) 17:43, 3 February 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 21:15, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Surrogacy/Adoption Options for Same-Sex Couples

In July of 2018, a new surrogacy bill was introduced to the Knesset (Israel’s legislative committee) proposing to expand the definition on who is eligible for surrogacy as a route to parenthood. Up until this point, the only people to which surrogacy was an option was “a man and a woman who are a couple”. The new legislation opened the option of surrogacy up to single women and women unable to become pregnant, but denied single fathers, and by extension gay couples, this same right. This denial of rights sparked action from the LGBT community in Israel and even a widespread protest where thousands of Israeli citizens walked out of their workplace to express their disapproval of the decision.

The issue of having children for same-sex couples is especially hot within Israeli society due to the large cultural emphasis on the importance of family. Currently, an aim of the LGBTQ community within Israeli is to expand people’s definition of “family” beyond a heterosexual marriage with children. While the denial of the proposed surrogacy law was undeniably a setback toward this goal, the LGBT community remains optimistic about gaining equality through parenthood. Recent statistics tell us that “between 89.6% and 98.8% of social workers deem any living arrangement involving children to count as a family”. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merhawk (talk • contribs) 04:50, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shilo, G., Antebi, N. & Mor, Z. "Individual and Community Resilience Factors Among Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Queer and Questioning Youth and Adults in Israel." American Journal of Community Psychology, 2017, Vol. 55, p. 215-227. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10464-014-9693-8

Gauriel-Fried, B., Shilo, G. "The Perception of Family Israel and the United States: Similarities and Differences." Journal of Family Issues, Tel Aviv University, Tel Aviv, 2017, Vol. 38(4), p. 480-499. http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0192513X15617798

Sommer, A. "Why the Battle for Gay Rights in Israel Passes Through Parenthood, Not Marriage." Haaretz, 2018. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-why-the-battle-for-gay-rights-in-israel-passes-through-parenthood-1.6294801

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