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Facto Post – Issue 18 – 30 November 2018

Facto Post – Issue 18 – 30 November 2018

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WikiCite issue

GLAM ♥ data — what is a gallery, library, archive or museum without a catalogue? It follows that Wikidata must love librarians. Bibliography supports students and researchers in any topic, but open and machine-readable bibliographic data even more so, outside the silo. Cue the WikiCite initiative, which was meeting in conference this week, in the Bay Area of California.

Wikidata training for librarians at WikiCite 2018

In fact there is a broad scope: "Open Knowledge Maps via SPARQL" and the "Sum of All Welsh Literature", identification of research outputs, Library.Link Network and Bibframe 2.0, OSCAR and LUCINDA (who they?), OCLC and Scholia, all these co-exist on the agenda. Certainly more library science is coming Wikidata's way. That poses the question about the other direction: is more Wikimedia technology advancing on libraries? Good point.

Wikimedians generally are not aware of the tech background that can be assumed, unless they are close to current training for librarians. A baseline definition is useful here: "bash, git and OpenRefine". Compare and contrast with pywikibot, GitHub and mix'n'match. Translation: scripting for automation, version control, data set matching and wrangling in the large, are on the agenda also for contemporary library work. Certainly there is some possible common ground here. Time to understand rather more about the motivations that operate in the library sector.

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I've blocked your account for six months per your request. I am sorry to see you go, and I hope you'll change your mind. The page mover revocation was nothing personal, and I was sorry to have to do it. Either way, I wish you nothing but the best, and you will be welcomed back at any time.  Swarm  {talk}  01:07, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Swarm: I would appreciate if someone could just finish speedying the articles that I've created which have not had significant contributions from anyone else, because now it's going to piss me off for another six months knowing I have unfinished stuff to do. (Obviously a whole bunch of them have been deleted already).Seraphim System (talk) 01:15, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I will have to run this by the community.  Swarm  {talk}  01:29, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Swarm: Ok, I guess also the drafts I have in my subpages.Seraphim System (talk) 01:43, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Softlavender: I should probably give an explanation of why I am asking that my work be CSD'ed so people like yourself do not spread rumours about me in my absence and where I can't respond. I regret that I am removing content that may be useful to readers as I obviously had readers in mind when I put many hours and years of my time into creating. I haven't saved any drafts, etc. Leaving is difficult for me and I want a clean break. I sincerely appreciate everyone who has been supportive, and I am sorry to them for giving up and also to our readers, but I don't want my work to be part of this project anymore for reasons that I feel I have explained adequately at length elsewhere. This is not one of those things where I leave and come back as a sock, there are certain issues such as being from a censored country thus not having other English speaking editors around who share the same interests I do - I don't blame anyone for that, but it is has not been a good experience for me. There are certain articles where the environment is toxic, but not everything can be fixed by administrators. I'm not really in a position where I can take a positive attitude and run edit-a-thons or outreach - I have thought about it but decided it would be too dangerous in a blocked country. Please do not continue to say nasty things about me behind my back. Seraphim System (talk) 02:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't intend to say those things behind your back. I'll post them here, verbatim:

I really don't know the whole long story, but the Suleiman move and edit-war was particularly, unbelievably egregious, and any admin would have been within their rights to immediately withdraw the very exclusive page-mover right. And the fact that Seraphim System consequently CSDed all of their own articles out of sheer spite, not caring that they might be useful to readers, is further evidence that the user has a major attitude problem. I think Swarm did exactly the right thing. Softlavender (talk) 02:12, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please calm down, spite has nothing to do with it and I'm not mad. I'm a little bit sad, but that's it. At least take some time to think about what I am saying and do not just dismiss out of hand the experience that I have had as not valid or simply blame it all on my spitefulness. I don't really want to leave on a nasty note.Seraphim System (talk) 02:23, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Too late for that, Seraphim System, you are leaving on a nasty note. When your page-move violations were reported to AN, you immediately threatened to quit [4]. Then when your page-mover right was removed you immediately, literally three minutes later, asked Bishonen and Swarm to block you for six months, after which you CSDed all your own articles. All of those actions are textbook rage-quitting. Softlavender (talk) 02:32, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If it makes it easier to tell yourself that, I don't mind. I don't want people like you in my life anymore. It has nothing to do with "page move violations". That is something you care about. To me, it feels like a violation that my work continues to be live in this project against my will and I feel sick to my stomach. Goodbye. Seraphim System (talk) 02:38, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Swarm: Can you please stop calling it "rage quitting"? I have been thinking about this for a long time. Please copy and paste my explanation and apologies to the discussion you opened at AN. Many members of this community have been supportive and welcoming and I don't have any bad feelings for the community as a whole and I don't want this to be represented that way.Seraphim System (talk) 02:06, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • I am sorry, SS. I never intended for things to go this way, and I'm sorry you feel the way you do. As it happens, whether you believe it or not, I've felt the same way before. There's nothing wrong in requesting a self-requested block. Please, though, try and understand that my opening of that AN thread was not intended to be a personal attack against you or your contributions. I simply think, on principle, that Wikipedia should take a hard line on advanced permissions, and particularly their use in relation to move disputes. I tried to explain to you what I thought you did wrong at AN...perhaps you might understand at some point. RGloucester 02:56, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletions

Hi SS, can you explain more how deleting these articles would help you make a clean break? I understand regretting being associated with WP - I do - but people have to balance helping you make a clean break against our core function, providing sourced information to readers. Plus, people can be horrible, and there will no doubt be all kinds of people who will want to kick you while you're down at the AN thread, so I can kind of guess how that thread is going to end up. I have a hard time understanding how deleting articles that currently qualify for G7 will help make a clean break, while articles that have been edited by others, and so don't qualify, won't. Is it that you wish you could delete all of it, but know you can't so you're doing the most you can? If so, is there any chance you could view the G7'd articles as future articles that will be edited by others, and treat them the same way? Any chance you could give the OK to undelete those that are already deleted, so that AN thread can be closed, and it gives horrible people less of an opportunity to be horrible?

However this ends up, sorry to see you this miserable, and if you ever change your mind, we'll be here. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:36, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Floquenbeam: It greatly decreases the likelihood that I will come back after the self-block period, but I guess if you guys want to keep them its ok. I figure this will get easier in a few days whether the articles remain or not.Seraphim System (talk) 02:42, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect you'll either not want to come back in 6 months, regardless of whether they are there or not, or you'll want to come back and you'd ask for them to be undeleted anyway. Enjoy the time away, and I hope you decide to do whatever is best. Thanks. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:45, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That actually made me laugh, there is no way I would come back and ask for 100 articles to be undeleted, I would feel too stupid. Seraphim System (talk) 02:56, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]