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Titles?
"Charles, by the grace of God, Holy Roman Emperor, forever August"
Really? I never saw the "Holy" part in any other context than for the empire, never the emperor. They would always call themselves "emperor of the Romans".MacX85 (talk) 19:38, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Referring to people by titles they did not have at the time
It is very confusing if the article refers to people by ranks and titles they did not hold at the time.
Mary Tudor, Queen of France was not Queen of France when she was betrothed to Charles at the age of 11 in 1507.
Thomas Wolsey was not a Cardinal when the engagement of Mary Tudor and Charles was called off in 1513.
Mary I of England was not Queen of England when she was betrothed to Charles at the age of 6 in 1521.
The most important work Charles V made in Spain was the construction of the state, which came to last for centuries. Most of the State was taken from the Crown of Castile (not the Kingdom of Castile); but Charles also added some details he brought from Flanders to Spain.-80.28.231.217 (talk) 19:10, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
the number V is also in Spain !
Of course, because if you say "Charles I of Spain" you are forgetting the Charles, kings of Navarre. Thus you use the numbers of the kings of Asturias (-Leon-Galicia) only, and you forget the kings of Navarre, who were Spanish as well ! ---80.28.231.217 (talk) 19:14, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Navarre had only three kings named Charles before Emperor Charles V, and the Navarrese numbers are not considered. The present king is thus Philip VI rather than Philip VIII. Surtsicna (talk) 19:48, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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