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This was a fine addition to the article. Well written. Leithp 09:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your hard work, well referenced, on these formations. Please however place them in the relevant *infantry* brigade category: for example Category:Infantry brigades of the British Army in World War II. Buckshot06 (talk) 10:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I know ! Nobody has set up the relevant subcategories to link them to Category:Infantry brigades until I came along, and though I've created the categories, it will take a while before you, me, and anyone else can move all the brigade articles to the right subcats... Oh well, on WP:There is no deadline... ;) Buckshot06 (talk) 23:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also noticed that you created a separate article for 38th Inf Bde's WW I service. Now there is no hard-and-fast rule as far as I know, but virtually all Brit inf bdes and divs with identifiable continuing histories WW I /WWII have been merged (I did a wave of this when I first started in 2006). I am going to add a summary of your data to 38 (Irish) Inf Bde, and respectfully ask you to consider merging 38 Inf Bde's history into one article. Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 23:19, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As you wish. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:19, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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This is the typo, correct? I've set it to be deleted as a miscreation - that OK? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:03, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, sorry, should be Nugent, not Nuget.Rickfive (talk) 16:16, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Just making sure I didn't step wrong. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:20, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks!Rickfive (talk) 19:32, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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In line with the U.S. state (and other, Indian) categories, since there are now over five London units in the Category:Military history of London cat, would you mind creating a subcategory? Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 22:33, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is exactly in line with my own thinking - I'll do so as soon as I can. I would also like to start a debate about whether the London Regiment page should be divided into two: London Regiment [the present day unit] and London Regiment 1908–1937, which was a completely different organisation. It effectively disappeared in 1916 and the individual battalions were treated as ' XX London Regiment' in their own right, affiliated to different regular Army regiments. Cheers86.178.147.169 (talk) 11:54, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for all your continuing hard work on the various RA regiments, especially AA. You're doing a fantastic job. However there's one minor course correction I'd like to pass on. At the moment you have listed some regiments in the lowest category - say Cat:Light AA Regts - and the next category higher up, usually Category:Air defence units and formations of the British Army. Articles should not be listed in two levels of the hierarchy at once, because that just clutters the higher category, and the lowest categories are usually specifically created to declutter the higher categories. You'll see the edit I've just made at [1] which reverses your mistaken addition of yesterday. Again, you're doing a fantastic job, I wish we had more like you, and this is just a minor word in your ear. Just about my first talkpage message back in 2006 was a similar warning not to do this as regards USAF units.... Buckshot06 (talk) 15:32, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I quite agree: more decluttering needed. Updating the categories is an ongoing process for the Royal Artillery and Volunteers (many pages of which are out there but have never been put into relevant categories). I'll carry on, and at the same time I'll tackle more of the doubled categories. Thanks for taking an interest.Rickfive (talk) 09:24, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Merely changed a category, just one page among several while cleaning up 'Category:Scottish Military History'. As there are existing categories for 'Regiments of Scotland' and 'Military units and formations in Scotland', individual regiments/units should not be duplicated in the higher tier 'military history' category.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickfive (talk • contribs)
Your change was thus neither minor nor correct as a battalion is a smaller unit than a regiment so does not fit in the Regiments of Scotland category. If you are not sure what constitutes a minor edit, check the link above. Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:12, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed: battalions are subunits of regiments (though often they are one and the same) so McCrae's Battalion should be in the 'military units and formations' category rather than 'regiments of Scotland' sense stricto, though non-specialists will not appreciate the subtle distinction. I was merely cleaning up categories, and marking the change as minor was a slip on my part. Reading the page in more detail it has many more problems than its categorisation.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickfive (talk • contribs)

Non-specialists will certainly not appreciate the distinction between a battalion and a regiment if the former is mis-categorised as the latter when they come to this work of reference. I'm not castigating you for marking the edit as minor, simply making you aware that it was not, drawing your attention to the distinction and informing you that you ought not to mark edits so unless they fit the description. Don't worry about it but do keep it in mind. The article may well have more problems so adding to them isn't desirable. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:36, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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101 (City of London) Engineer Regiment

Just created this one; very few current TA/AR regiments seem to have a page. Any edits with your better sources would be welcome. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 03:03, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I looked all around your pages looking for 1 Middlesex Eng Vols, and had no success. Would you be able to just insert the correct name of the 1860 predecessor unit and a ref in that page? That would be great if you could. For your slightly non-standard page, you could always move it to a different name. I'd also advise you to read carefully WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME, because as much as I admire your great effort using the first titles of all these units, our guidelines say we should use the most recent title!! Not suggesting you should change your approach a jot though - these are 'regiments' in the full sense of a regiment/corps. Buckshot06 (talk) 18:12, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Happily do 75 Engineer Regiment (United Kingdom) if you could dump, here or somewhere else, an outline lineage with proper refs. I can get the archived regiments.org site as a supplement. Buckshot06 (talk) 01:22, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Just noticed that you're cleaning up redirects. When you do that, in accordance with WP:RCAT, categories should be there, unless they are wrong. Appropriate categorisation of redirects helps the encyclopedia. Hope all's going well, cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 00:25, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I noticed when I did the redirects for the minor RVCs incorporated into the North Midland Divisional Engineers that a previous batch of Staffordshire RVC redirects had the short titles. I've provided parallel redirects with the full title and the categories, so that the 'Military units and formations in Staffordshire' category will now be consistent. The short title redirect will still point to the main article, but won't appear as a duplicate in the category pages.Rickfive (talk) 13:08, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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56th (King's Own) Anti-Tank Regiment

Can we take advantage of your expertise and get you to take a look at this article? Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 06:15, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a look. It doesn't look too bad, but I have some other source material so I could do a light clean up, such as clarifying the relationships with the Kings Regiment and the 1st Air Landing Battery, and I can add properly sourced references, including the regimental history. The main missing element is that the 66th A/T, which is mentioned as merging with the 56th in 1945, was itself the duplicate of the 56th formed in 1939.Rickfive (talk) 13:07, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Confirmed: Brassey's printed an 11-digit ISBN on the flyleaf of Routledge, Anti-Aircraft Artillery. I have checked the entry in the British Library Catalogue and will correct it in future.Rickfive (talk) 13:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of regiments of the Royal Artillery

And List of regiments of the Royal Engineers... would you consider helping me put these together? Buckshot06 (talk) 21:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Rickfive. If 1947 was the magic year when all the RA regiments were renumbered into a single series, two lists, one pre-1947 and one post-1947, sound best. What exact title should the pre-1947 list be at? This is because it should cover all brigades and regiments up to that point. If that's still too big a list we could do a World War I list as well. Is there any way of getting me a copy of the magic Annex M? Buckshot06 (talk) 20:51, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
See now (in my drafts section) User:Buckshot06/Sandbox Structure of the Soviet Ground Forces (ignore the old page title). Buckshot06 (talk) 23:19, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Thankyou for all your hard work this year on some very low-profile topics. I'm sure there would be many a AA gunner who would be happy their units are being immortalised in this fashion. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 01:57, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Having just seen you created 54th_Anti-Aircraft_Brigade I need to check whether you are aware of this guideline. Effectively units/formations need to be at their last designation. The page 54 AA Brigade would have (1st Formation)- a whole history of the first 54 AA Bde, and a disbandment/redesignation link to the new unit name, and then (2nd Formation) - history of second brigade. I hesitate to disrupt your fine work like this, but unless you wish to request an exemption from our rules, the pages will need to be reorganised under the last unit designation. Hope I can help you with this. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 01:38, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The other rule to keep in mind is WP:COMMONNAME, but brigades active for several years after the war should generally go at their last designation - that's the rule. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:23, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Post Office Rifles

I have just added the note (Post Office Rifles) to the 8th (Service) Battalion of the Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) in the World War I section. But is this battalion part of the London Regiment? Was this correct? What's the difference between the Royal Fusiliers and the London Regiment in the First - Second World War period?

The 8th (City of London) Bn London Regiment (Post Office Rifles) and 8th (Service) Bn Royal Fusiliers are different units. The London Regiment battalions still need a lot of work, but the main London Regiment page is pretty accurate now. In summary, the London Regiment formed in 1908 consisted of 28 Territorial battalions, the first eight of which were 'City of London' and the remainder 'County of London'. Of these, the 1st-4th (City of London) Bns were *affiliated* to the Royal Fusiliers (City of London) Regiment, but not part of its numbered sequence of battalions. The Service Bns of WWI were Kitchener Army , not Territorial units. Post WWI the London Rgt disappeared and the bns reverted to their pre-1908 affiliations. Before and during WWII some were renumbered with this regiment, some were listed separately. Just to make things worse, the 8th Londons merged with the 7th Londons in 1920 and the Post Office Rifles title was moved across to the 7th!Rickfive (talk) 10:00, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah-ha, I should have remembered; Service battalions were war-formed units. My source was a recruiting postcard, labelled '8th Battalion, City of London Regiment' Post Office Rifles. So the recruiting postcard was wrong to put 'City of London Regiment' rather than 'London Regt' on the poster? Buckshot06 (talk) 21:36, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, as is often the case, sloppy use of nomenclature leads to confusion for later folk. There are plenty of good sources on the London Regiment – Regiments.org [2] is a useful quick guide.Rickfive (talk) 10:41, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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55th (West Lancs)

Hi, as it seems that you have access to Becke, is it possible that you can add the date that Jeudwine took command of the division to the article? Regards, EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 02:20, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

42 (City of Manchester) Signal Squadron

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7 AA Brigade (Malta) and 7 Army Group Royal Artillery

It is my belief, based on the sources available, that there's no 'lineage link' between 7 AA Brigade in Malta and 7 AGRA, and thus 7 Air Defence Group should not list any data on 7 AA Brigade in Malta. What do you think? Buckshot06 (talk) 08:15, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1st Cinque Ports Artillery Volunteers

Being interested in unit lineages, I was pleasantly surprised to find a growing list of British Artillery Volunteers on Wikipedia.

From Westlake's "Tracing the Rifle Volunteers", I created charts: https://hcvv.home.xs4all.nl/milweb/Great-Britain/TAinfantry/index.html. Using the Artillery pages, I am trying to do the same for the Artillery Volunteers.

I am a new Wikipedia contributor (did some anonymous typo editing earlier, but only today created an account) and I may be wrong, but I get the idea that you are a main contributor to these pages. When I am wrong, please direct me to the correct way or person to ask my questions.

On the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cinque_Ports_Artillery_Volunteers I understand that after the first, rather complex, changes in 1860 and after additions until 1867, there were 1A, 1B, 1C, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 AVC. Nevertheless the article states that on consolidation the batteries are formed from 1 - 9 AVC. What (and in particular when) occurred this renumbering?

Second, the page says that there was: 2nd AVC raised at Ramsgate 2 January 1860; designated 1st C in August 1860. and also: 2nd AVC raised at Sandwich 13 February 1860; designated 4th in May 1860; re-designated 2nd in August 1860 This would mean that from 13 February until May there were 2 AVCs with the number 2nd. Is that true and was it an administrative error made in 1860?

Also, The 3rd was created at Walmer 6 February 1860. When I interprete correct, it must be the 5th in the consolidation list, but that is located at Deal. There is no mentioning of this move in the page.

Thanks in advance for any answers,

Henk

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