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CHICHI7YT's Wikipedia Drafts

You declined Draft:Welcome Tour because it needs more news sources about the tour that aren't coming from fan sites. However, I've been having difficulty finding news sources about the tour that aren't from fan sites. Could you help me please? CHICHI7YT (talk) 00:39, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CHICHI7YT, how about more newspapers or magazines? If the fan site has archives of news clippings covering the show you can cite those newspaper writeups. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 02:33, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, my main source for the draft was this. However, the page doesn't show news clippings, only posters for gigs. I don't think posters are a reliable source for a Wikipedia article. CHICHI7YT (talk) 02:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CHICHI7YT, posters and Santana's website only show that they toured. If there are magazine writeups or news clippings that would be better. They can be offline, but they need to be articles that someone who has access to them at a library or whatever can dig up . Look for headlines like "Santana announces Welcome Tour." or "Santana Welcome Tour" How did you know that they changed lineups on a certain venue? Or that they played to 65,000 people at a certain place. There must be news articles for stuff like that.AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:41, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CHICHI7YT, Here's a nice collection put together by a fan site for The Band when they toured with Bob Dylan in 1974. [1] If there's something similar, you could cite those news articles. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:09, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, it turns out the info about Santana changing lineups on a certain venue comes from a memoir by Carlos Santana called The Universal Tone: Bringing My Story to Light. It is okay if I use that book as a reference? CHICHI7YT (talk) 19:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CHICHI7YT, it would be a primary source, but it at least has information that he publicized. A biography for Santana would be secondary and could be used for that too. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 04:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, should I add citations for pages I used in the books for reference? CHICHI7YT (talk) 01:37, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CHICHI7YT, you can if it helps. There's a way to do so like with Anthony Field. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 05:27, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, I added a citation to a page I used in Santana's autobiography for reference. So what now? CHICHI7YT (talk) 20:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CHICHI7YT, are there any news articles that call it the Welcome Tour? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, no. The Welcome Tour is how I call the tour, because it started shortly after the release of Welcome. I guess a better name for the tour is "Santana North American Tour 1974" or something. CHICHI7YT (talk) 21:18, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CHICHI7YT, then yes, the name of the article should be "Santana 1974 North American Tour" or "Santana North American Tour 1974" or "Santana North American Tour (1974)" (like The Beatles' 1966 US tour), not "Welcome Tour". If you have news articles calling it as such, then that would work. It really needs some news article that has verbiage like: Santana launches the Santana North American Tour in (city). The tour will run from (date range) and visit (number) cities " AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:27, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
But AngusWOOF, how do I rename the article? Also, most of the info about where and when they toured came from posters from 1974 gigs. CHICHI7YT (talk) 23:26, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CHICHI7YT, I can eventually rename it, just tell me what you want it to be at the header. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:24, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, I want the draft to be renamed "Santana North American Tour 1974". CHICHI7YT (talk) 20:26, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, thank you for renaming the draft. I have made some articles on Wikipedia, but the articles I made that I'm most proud of are Santana Tour and Santana III Tour. How are those articles, and if you approve of them, what elements from those articles should I incorporate into my draft? CHICHI7YT (talk) 22:24, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CHICHI7YT, I went ahead and accepted it. I found a site that has a pile of posters and ticket stubs for 1974. There isn't an official name for the tour, but it is clear they went on tour during that time. There are some tour dates in March you might want to add. Also some co-headlines with Golden Earring band as notes. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:53, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much AngusWOOF. The website that has a pile of posters and ticket stubs for 1974 was Santanamigos.com! I usually use that site for tour date information when I'm making Santana tour articles. CHICHI7YT (talk) 22:57, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
However, in the beginning, you declined the page because I relied on fan sites too much, but Santanamigos is a fan site. Also, I wont be adding the March shows to the page because those dates were for a separate tour by Carlos Santana and John McLaughlin unrelated to this North American tour and the Caravanserai Tour. CHICHI7YT (talk) 23:06, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, sorry about the circular part. The posters are helpful, but I wanted to make sure it had more newspaper articles like the other fansite for The Band. You might want to mention the separate tour in the descriptions so that they aren't wondering what happened in that gap. Also noting that they toured with Earth Wind & Fire in 1975 in Europe for 42 dates. [2] AngusWOOF (barksniff) 23:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AngusWOOF, there is another Wikipedia draft I made. This draft has been awaiting review for two months already. Like Santana North American Tour 1974, this draft is about a concert tour by Santana, but this draft includes more references and an image. This draft is called Draft:Caravanserai Tour. Will you be able to review it? CHICHI7YT (talk) 15:56, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CHICHI7YT, similar issue as previous. I don't see any places where they refer to the specific tour under that name. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:53, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see the articles where they point to

I created a draft about this person and I added all news I found. The draft is an English translation of the french Page :

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Foote

This can be notable for inclusion.

Last time, I created a French page (Eutelsat 21B) and it was accepted for inclusion :

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eutelsat_21B

Plz note i had just translated the French to the English for creating the Draft:Ian Foote

An another draft can be sumbited look :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Plan%C3%A8te_Rap

Plz check the drafts and sumbit it. I need you to sumbit the Ian Foote draft to insert a citation to this page :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Roland — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.122.250.15 (talk) 11:27, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

196.122.250.15, you're still missing the point. You need WP:THREE sources to show he is a notable referee, and not from just one event that does not have a long-lasting impact years later. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:28, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I added three sources from Dutch language Wikipedia page plz sumbit it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ian_Foote

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Foote


This draft can be moved to the article space. I added sources and it's a notable referee. I translated from the French page to the English :

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Foote — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.253.215.209 (talk) 12:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I want to recreate this draft with statistics like this :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A9stor_Pitana — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.253.211.219 (talk) 11:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

197.253.211.219, statistics charts won't help. It needs reliable news sources that significantly cover his career. See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Ian Foote AngusWOOF (barksniff) 13:47, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I want you remove the protection because I have reliable news about this referee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Ian_Foote

https://worldreferee.com/referee/ian_foote/

https://en.everybodywiki.com/Ian_Foote

I want to recreate the draft with adding news

I will adding 4 notable matches in carrer category — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.253.242.119 (talkcontribs)

197.253.242.119 I can't remove the protection. You can't use Everybodywiki.com to source information. That is not a reliable source. You're still referencing the same crappy sources that got this article deleted. Please find others from news sources that aren't the obituaries but cover his career in detail. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:37, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
197.253.242.119, read the comments in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Ian Foote, especially Worldbruce's comments. You need reliable sources, not the same ones that you have been listing on my page over and over. All you have been providing is the obituary and WP:ROUTINE coverage of the ref in various matches. That just isn't enough. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:43, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I have recently edited the page Pinky Weber and I was wondering if the edits/ page has been approved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SophiaBG (talkcontribs)

SophiaBG You can click the resubmit button at Draft:Pinky Weber if you think it's ready to be reviewed again. I still think it needs more work on the sourcing and significance. Having it appear in a newspaper or magazine article doesn't make the person notable but the article can help for sourcing. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:14, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mr. AngusWoof. I am editing a page called Claire Celsi and submitted a new source for employment. Is it sufficient? Also, what is the best way to go about obtaining a photo for the article. I am new to Wikipedia. Please reply with your advice. Thank you so much. Brandie Brandieport17 (talk) 15:29, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Brandie, you can try to make a picture request at WP:FFU and refer to one of the pictures she might have in the .gov public domain? You should also add more news sources; see my comments on the draft. Some more articles from The Des Moines Register, Sioux City Journal, and other places would be good. Also info on her primaries and whether she ran for other positions prior to 2018. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:41, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Mr. AngusWoof (bark sniff)

Can you please look over the edits I made to the Claire Celsi article? I also found a public domain photo.

Thanks, Brandie ;-) Brandieport17 (talk) 22:55, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Brandieport17, the photo still needs copyright permissions. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Senator_Claire_Celsi.png State gov material isn't public domain like US. Please answer their concerns there on Commons. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Defender's Quest

I have made some improvements to Draft: Defender's Quest and would ask that you re-review and approve the page so it can continue being edited in the main Wikipedia namespace.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 04:10, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ZXCVBNM It looks like Hellknowz has accepted the article into mainspace. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 13:30, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Planète Juniors

This draft can be moved to the article space :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Plan%C3%A8te_Juniors — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.253.250.200 (talk) 12:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


This is a notable channel, you can find it on internet, I translated all from French page on English langage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.114.166.12 (talk) 10:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

196.114.166.12, you need more external news sources that focus on the particular channel and how it is distinct from Planete (TV channel). Otherwise it would merge there as one of its related channels offered. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 12:04, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:OAV Air Bearings

Hey AngusWoof, you've declined my article, OAV Air Bearings and listed the reason as an insufficient amount of news sources. The sources that are on the article include a paper magazine, 3 news articles, and a blog along with the company website. There are more sources that I can include, however adding more sources then what is already there would be detrimental to the flow of the article, meaning the article would sound choppy with facts that don't have a relevant connection to the history section of my article. I would love to hear more of your feedback as well as how I could potentially get this article on Wikipedia and accepted as a verified article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Breezekovy (talkcontribs) 18:41, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Breezekovy, Happening to see this request: first, there are no sources that qualify as references providing substantial coverage from third-party independent reliable sources, not press releases or mere announcements . Second ,the article appears to be essentially an advertisement for the company.Three separate reviewers have declined to accept this article, and I would have done the same also. DGG ( talk ) 10:23, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @AngusWOOF: you have declined this article: Draft:Kali Muni Tharisanam several days ago, now i have improve it, please take a look. The film is very notable, it is screened nationwide in Malaysia and Singapore; can't compare the film to English-language film who received widespread coverage; i will add more source and info in future. Hope the article stays, thanks! --added by User:LoveFromBJM (talk) [UTC Time: 0709, 18 July 2019]

LoveFromBJM, can you find some film reviews? The film was recently released so the local and national newspapers should have lots of coverage by now if it is very notable as you say. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:48, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
LoveFromBJM, the film should have been released now. Can you add some more reception from newspaper reviews and box office, and then resubmit? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 13:32, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

pursue afd help

can you help me pursue AfD on this article Larry-Boy (character), cuz this is not even close to pass the notability. thank you. 49.151.166.35 (talk)

49.151.166.35, I moved it over to draft and redirected the other Larryboy ones to the cartoon. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 11:30, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 09:20:34, 20 July 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Discovergeeks


Hello Angus WooF,

I need to know which exact part of the newly published Wikipedia page looks like Advertisement, so that I can fix.

Thanks, Subash

Discovergeeks (talk) 09:20, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discovergeeks, it reads like a ad, with lists of services. Please read WP:MILL and indicate how this organization isn't just some local business with branches in multiple towns? You need sources independent of the subject as well. See WP:ORGCRIT AngusWOOF (barksniff) 09:40, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


afc

I've just accepted Bashkaro Pass, a draft you had previously declined to accetpt -- see my comments there. DGG ( talk ) 09:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DGG, fair enough. I just wanted to make sure it was legit enough to stand on its own. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 11:30, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Planète Juniors

I fixed a mistake in this draft, plz move it to the article space. I mentionned the channel is a part of Planète Group but the channel is a part of Planète channels.

Example : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan%C3%A8te%2B_Thalassa — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.219.181.200 (talk) 10:30, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

45.219.181.200, fixing which Planete group it is part of doesn't make the channel independently notable from those articles. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 11:47, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Submission declined - Ryan Trotti (draft)

2600:1700:C740:97B0:7961:5423:1E24:123D (talk) 19:56, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Good afternoon!

Thank you for your feedback on this initial draft. Before revising, I was hoping for a little further guidance, so I had some questions/comments pertaining to the feedback you provided. Thanks in advance for your time. The first is to your point that "Music Row" isn't a notable chart. While agreed, it's certainly not "Billboard", however, it is still a very highly coveted chart, actively worked in the country music genre by the same A list artists that sit atop the other larger charts, aforementioned. In other words, it's not just for any musician with a song. It requires some substantial notability to be considered and included in the top 200 of the US. Wondering if there is any room for reconsideration here.

The second comment I was looking for a little clarification on was the one about this section, "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Several of the 12 listed references are full articles, very few, if any, just "passing mentions". In fact, one in particular is the entire front page of the 3rd party newspaper, electronic and hard copy print. There are also several major TV affiliate news channel on-air interviews referenced as well, including WCNC and WMBF, both NBC affiliates in NC and SC, respectively. Also included are major awards, and exclusive event inclusion (CCMF) etc. Would these not sufficiently show 3rd party notability and validation? Thanks again for your assistance, as I'm a fairly new blogger and contributor to the Wiki community.2600:1700:C740:97B0:7961:5423:1E24:123D (talk) 19:56, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2600:1700:C740:97B0:7961:5423:1E24:123D, I would check WP:MUSICBIO and whether he can meet criteria listed there, then please state so. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 03:37, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
2600:1700:C740:97B0:7961:5423:1E24:123D, you can resubmit this. Maybe another AFC reviewer can see the local news and television articles. The television segment is helpful. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 06:09, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Re-submitted. Cheers! 2600:1700:C740:97B0:488C:B1B2:8402:D8DE (talk) 06:21, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning your rejection of my draft, Pound (restaurant)

So you said that my article seemed to be a failure because it seems like the product of a run-of-the-mill thing. You said that it was that. I’ve found a source of international origin, specifically this one.

What I mean

[1]

I also have proof that this is international. They did reviews of things in Bali, Shanghai, and even more. However, the email seems really Manila but I have reason to believe that whoever owns that website lives in someplace like Malaysia. Generally, this website does reviews for SEA.

Sincerely, A diehard editor (talk) 05:57, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ (unknown) (13 April 2019). "POUND X FLATTERIE: Greenbelt Branch Offers the Best of Both Brands". Ish Meets World. Retrieved 21 July 2019.
A diehard editor, can you find more international reviews of the organization then? From news sources? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 05:58, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, what regions? Southeast Asia not international enough? That’s the onlyreviews I can find. No European reviews, no African reviews, no American reviews, the only reviews are from Southeast Asia. That’s the most international the sources can get.— Preceding unsigned comment added by A diehard editor (talkcontribs)
A diehard editor, it's okay if it's from Southeast Asia, but should be from mainstream news sources and not just a single paper. 06:06, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So, AngusWOOF, you think that the Ish Meets World link thing is not that mainstream enought? Spot.ph review is the most mainstream review article available. I think I should go buy mining equipment to mine for more sources about Pound x Flatterie.

A diehard editor, spot.ph at least has a website link on Wikipedia. Can't say the same about Eatsplorations. How about these:

The brands are now all related to Food Hall or Todd English Food Hall, which now includes Hook, Pound, Flatterie, and The Grill "we’re bringing all the restaurants we love under one roof" https://www.trend-hotspot.com/food/the-food-hall-presents-hook-by-todd-english-the-grill-pound-flatterie/ This can either be described in a section at Todd English or made into a single article of which Pound would be a section. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 13:56, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note also that Todd English Food Hall is the name of the NYC establishment, while his Manila one is now "The Food Hall" or "Food Hall". This could probably go to Todd English's article so as not to confuse anymore. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:19, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yay! I’ll bring you a dog. I think the Todd English article should eat up Pound or maybe just partially, like the Main Article thing. This kind of main article:

Main Article

. P.S so you used your own mining equipment to find these sources? What a treasure trove.

A diehard editor (talk) 08:34, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rahul Megh Arya Draft

Dear Team This article is from reliable sources you can take information with school and University. Also from public Review.


Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.79.58.249 (talk) 04:13, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

106.79.58.249, I've removed the drafts. This isn't the place to advertise a non-notable student, and certainly not multiple times. Please read WP:NAU AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:16, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

MEOWCAT™️

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Anyways, careful with the cat because you’re a dog, hence your username AngusWOOF-

  • you begin to woof at MEOWCAT™️*
  • you attack MEOWCAT™️*

A diehard editor: I’m getting out of here. Let’s hope you’re a human and not a dog on Wikipedia.

A diehard editor (talk) 06:01, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A diehard editor, thanks, I do have cats too, so would be glad to try that one out. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 06:04, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, AngusWOOF. We will hand out three more MEOWCAT™️ units to other fellow Wikipedians. It’s part of the Diehard Pet Store.

Regarding Raymond J. Chambers

Dear Editor, I have reviewed your comments, which I know are well intended, but they have left me puzzled. The 30 references that I have given in the article refer to papers published in Financial Times top 50 journals, all of which are of the highest standard and considered as the basis for tenure decisions at major T1 universities in the United States (i.e. the acceptance rate for articles in these journals is around one percent). The books that I have cited are widely held (some appear in over 1,000 university libraries in the United States according to WorldCat.com). In addition, I have made references to Chambers' American Accounting Association's Accounting Hall of Fame Induction, which represents the highest honor any academic accounting can achieve. The selection is made by the AAA's 4,000 members and a panel of the most esteemed academics in our discipline, with has representatives from several Ivy league universities. The Wikipedia entry for the Accounting Hall of Fame reads:

"Selection to The Accounting Hall of Fame is intended to honor and recognize distinguished service and contributions to the progress of accounting in any of its various fields. Evidence of such service includes contributions to accounting research and literature, significant service to professional accounting organizations, wide recognition as an authority in some field of accounting, advancement of accounting education, and public service. A member must have reached a position of eminence from which the nature of his or her contributions may be established."

It should be noted that almost all Accounting Hall of Fame recipients have a Wikipedia entry already, and all of them have less citations and much less information than the current one under review. Consider, as an example, the following one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_J._Ball

Ray Ball's profile has three citations, two of which is the Accounting Hall of Fame.

It is therefore my understanding that Chambers meets the following criteria as you have outlined under WP:NACADEMIC:

"Criteria: The person is or has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the IEEE).[2]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.E.Persson (talkcontribs) 13:18, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, Chambers was inducted into the Order of Australia. The Wikipedia entry for this reads:

The Order of Australia is an order of chivalry established on 14 February 1975 by Elizabeth II, Queen of Australia, to recognise Australian citizens and other persons for achievement or meritorious service. Before the establishment of the order, Australian citizens received British honours. The Queen of Australia is Sovereign Head of the Order,[2] while the Governor-General is Principal Companion/Dame/Knight (as relevant at the time) and Chancellor of the Order. The Governor-General's Official Secretary, currently Paul Singer, is Secretary of the Order.

Would you please consider my request in earnest. My professional life has been dedicated to honor those that have contributed to the development of accounting thought, and I feel considerable distress that Raymond J. Chambers is being deprived of an entry unlike almost all of his peers. Please feel free to reach out below as well.

M.E.Persson (talk) 13:12, 22 July 2019 (UTC) With very best wishes, July 22, 2019[reply]

Martin E. Persson, MSc, PhD Assistant Professor, Department of Accountancy University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 396 Wohlers Hall, 1206 S. Sixth Street, Champaign, IL 61820 217.300.8547 | mpersson@illinois.edu

M.E.Persson, thanks for your feedback on Chambers. I will ask the other editors to help scrub this for tone. Much of the wording portrays him in a glowing positive light about how he accomplished many things so I marked it for too many primary sources WP:PRIMARY (his own works) and possible bias as it was written by his peers / colleagues as conflict of interest WP:COI. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 13:29, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
M.E.Persson, please also note that biography sections should be cited and not copy-pasted from the existing biographies out there in case of copyright violation. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 13:33, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
M.E.Persson, I went ahead and accepted the article. I saw a ton of academic biographies from journals, showing he meets Academic for chair. Hopefully other editors can scrub it for tone and that it can be rewritten with a neutral point of view. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 14:04, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for this AngusWOOF. I really appreciate that you've taken the time to attend this so quickly. I can't imagine all the work involved with Wiki. I'm going to review the entry myself as soon as I can and scrub some of the language as suggested. I think some of it was added in response to the first editor, which seemed to imply that Chambers was not important enough. But your edit was much more helpful in directing me to the criteria for recognizing academics on Wikipedia. With very best wishes,

M.E.Persson (talk) 14:18, 22 July 2019 (UTC) Martin[reply]

Draft: Efficient Voter Rule

Dear AngusWOOF, In March you suggested adding more justification for the topic, pruning, and diminishing the mentions of Anderson. In May I inserted motivation for the importance of this rule, cut items, and removed mentions of Anderson (except in the references). I'm hoping this is just what you wanted. Please let me know if problems remain. Thanks kindly. DiScience (talk) 19:13, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DiScience, I don't see the term being used outside of Anderson's research papers. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 13:59, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, It is also discussed in an environmental economics textbook (Environmental Economics and Natural Resource Management) and a video (see screen shot)
. You're right that it's currently hard to find. As a relatively new solution to big problems, the ability to find it on Wikipedia could be a good thing. It would be a useful link from the Externality page, which includes a list of other solutions to externalities. Thanks for any assistance you can provide! DiScience (talk) 14:47, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
DiScience, so when it's more well-known as.a term, then it can get past neologism. Please see WP:NEO AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:23, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, Fair enough. I was trying to give those who come upon it in the economics textbook, video, or Anderson article the ability to find another angle on it, but I'll wait until there are more secondary sources. Thanks. DiScience (talk) 21:19, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please re-review my draft

Hey,

I have make changes in the draft kindly please recheck it, Draft Abdullah1440 (talk) 21:11, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Abdullah1440, saying that Muhammed is the last prophet isn't anything extraordinary, but if he's a celebrity for making predictions on mainstream media and that he's gathered a following like Jeane Dixon or Harold Camping, you should outline his history of famous predictions that made the news and were either confirmed or refuted. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 14:03, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, i made some changes according to your guidance, kindly please check it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdullah1440 (talkcontribs) 19:09, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hey AngusWOOF, I have edited this article to the best of my ability to make it neutral and to provide reliable resources. If there is anything you can edit to improve the article please go ahead. Or if you have any suggestions please let me know. Thank you.

Draft:FoodMaven Question

Hi AngusWOOF. At Draft:FoodMaven you said you were removing an “extra” submit tag, but in fact that was the only submit tag on the page. Removing the tag took the draft out of the AfC queue for review. I wasn’t sure if you intended to take the draft out of the queue? (ie am I prohibited from re-submitting?). I didn’t want to re-instate the tag if there was some reason it can’t be re-submitted. PJ FOODMAVEN (talk) 16:20, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PJ FOODMAVEN, you may want to ask Scope creep, who placed the stop sign on the article. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:42, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: National Democratic Training Committee

Hi AngusWOOF! You had declined my submission due to a lack of sources. I've cut it down and put in a bunch of sources. Can you give me any more feedback so I can make the edits to get approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacobvurpillat (talkcontribs) 21:45, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jacobvurpillat, Please add more context as to when it was created and how influential it is. Does it train politicians at which levels? Is it indeed national? Is it connected to the Democratic Party (gets funds / support or vice versa) or is it for any party in US? When was it founded? Who founded it? How is it organized? What is the public perception of the group from both parties and the general public? What are some of its historical events? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:25, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, thank you! I've tried to update as best I can while still citing proper sources. Can you take another look and let me know what other changes need to be made? Thanks again for your help.--Jacobvurpillat (talk) 00:03, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, let me know if this update is good! Jacobvurpillat (talk) 19:10, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, any more advice on what I can do to improve the article? Thank you! Jacobvurpillat (talk) 22:12, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dynamite Clothing Draft

Hi AngusWOOF,

Thank you for your prompt review and comment on the draft page of Dynamite Clothing. I’ve looked through quite a few sources, and while Dynamite has a very similar sounding name to Groupe Dynamite, it has enough relevancy and significance to be considered for its own wikipedia entry. To take an example from the same industry, it’s similar to Gap Inc. owning brands like Banana Republic and Old Navy, which both have their independent entries on Wikipedia. In plenty of other domains and cases, subsidiaries often have their own pages, such as in the case of Bell Media and Virgin Mobile Canada being part of BCE Inc. Groupe Dynamite operates Garage and Dynamite, both well-known stores in Canada which have their distinct branding and target demographics. I have added more information about the brand and found sources backing up every bit of it. Hope this clarifies this entry submission. Have a great day, and I appreciate your editing work!

Dsyeno (talk) 19:31, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you Angus

Thank you Angus, you've always been very fair. Wikipedia for me is a place where we all help contribute to grow which is why I decided to put this through the draft method rather than just straight to the article space, in regards to those references you mentioned I keep getting conflicting things because people ask me to add more and then others say remove them and then others will then say there's not enough so it goes round in circles, I thought myself this was excessive but because of this I covered them all hence why, so it really becomes a place of conflict. I know each reviewer has different things they go by which is noted in the Wikipedia notability but what I do need people to understand with this album and why it's very significant is not so much the chart aspect of this (although this has produced national chart hits) but how notable it is to the artist (as the Wikipedia page says some reviewers from an established artist will accept this, others not so much) however it's also part of the significant albums that were recorded at Prince's Paisley Park too (which is very helpful for people using Wikipedia for sources there) so there is all these sides in regards to why, I feel, this album is one of those exceptions with notability and that it's pivotal it has it's own article for the combination of things mentioned. Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you and explain this to you because I do find that with this whole approval thing a lot of it is a clash of ego's and power trips (not yourself by any means as you've approved a couple of my articles before too once we've worked on them but I have come across this a lot which you can tell by the editors history too). However I wanted to explain this to you so you can kindly help and understand why this is an album, I feel is not only very notable but one that should be taken into consideration due to the combination of things. It never specifically made a massive chart impact due to complications with Polydor and it's distribution however it did create international chart hits and of course the Paisley Park thing I mentioned too, which doesn't help just being on an artists page (if that makes sense), it's just an album that is very significant in it's own right which hopefully you can understand a little better now as I know this helps when it comes to reviews.

If you could be so kind to have a little browse and work on the article (The Key) by removing any sources you feel are excessive that would be great, again, it's a complete clash here with various reviewers requesting more then others saying too many that it becomes quite frustrating. I've been working on this very hard since January to get it right with all the requested info and growth of the article I do feel it's something that it's almost there but it's just getting it right really as like I say, so many people have different reasons of their own it's very contradicting and I know there is some who just like to go round denying people's articles or making their work difficult cause they get some power trip from that or something (again, this is absolutely not yourself, this is just something I have seen on numerous occasions with certain reviewers) so I'm really glad when I see your name come across things as I know you're very genuine and fair though I did want to kindly ask you in regards to this with the clean up, put in another review and when you're ready hopefully you can kindly review this again and finally have the article moved to the article space.

Thank you so much Angus, you are a real credit and contributor to Wikipedia and I'm sincerely grateful for your time and help here with things so thank you!! Music Editor 2017 (talk) 20:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Serial Killer (festival)

Hello, I have edited Draft:Serial Killer (festival), could you please re-review it? Thank you very much.


Another message of thanks

Thank you once again Angus :) This is what I truly appreciate!! I have resubmitted the article The Key and want to also say thank you for listening in regards to my last message to understand and take on board the article so I appreciate that. I noticed you did an edit on the page to help try improve it (again thank you!!). I wasn't sure if you meant you wanted me to re-do lead sentence or if that was referencing what you had kindly done (again, thank you!) however it's now back in the submission and if you do mean you want the lead sentence re-done please kindly advise as I'm a little unsure what to do there with this and thank you!! Again, you're a great contributor here who is very fair and works hard to get things right which is something I sincerely appreciate so thank you!! :) Music Editor 2017 (talk) 15:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Just to add Angus, can you advise which part needs references for? It's quite difficult due to the album being from back in 1995/1996 (if only the internet was around back then there would be tons) however I have added a lot of sources there. The Prince reference is there now also with the significant Paisley Park recording also as well as some book sources too. Been working on this since the beginning of January really hard so have worked to get it right but it's becoming difficult now due to what I mentioned above due to when the album was released (again, if the internet had have been around back then we would very easily have tons for this), there's only so much when only so much is shared online that it's becoming too hard now to find any more sources but there is a lot there from books to billboard to chart watch, reviews, muzik magazine, BBC etc.. it's becoming very difficult now when pretty much every source that's been put online is there. Thanks Music Editor 2017 (talk) 19:44, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Music Editor 2017, reviews from magazines at the time would be best. Rolling Stone, Billboard, Melody Maker, NME, Spin? News articles are also okay. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:37, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, is there a source where I could look for these? There is no doubt coverage within some of those mentioned (I've sourced a couple of Billboard) however as I was saying earlier it's difficult to find because the album was released in 1995/1996 time but if they've not archived it online, it's not possible to find. I've found pretty much everything I can on this album since working on this from January (news, books etc..) but with the album being back then online sources aren't as extensive as they would have been had the internet have been around the way it is now back then which is why I find this difficult. I think there has to be some give and take with things like this with older albums, as long as some sufficient sources are there some leeway should be given as it's much more difficult with older albums, specially in this situation as mentioned in my previous thanks message (I wanted to kindly explain this to you so that you'd get a good idea of this). The album is notable but it's just difficult to find archived features other than the one's I've already got, which there is quite a lot of already, if we can find them by all means will add them but it's highly unlikely they'll be archived online which is the problem. Just some give and take really I think but hope this helps :) Music Editor 2017 (talk) 14:55, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, can you kindly follow up on this Angus when you get a moment and thank you. No rush but I need you help here when you have some spare time to kindly do so, please be so kind to read the last message above (I realise you may have missed this). Thank you so much for your kind help as I've worked on this a long time and it's truly sincerely appreciated!! :) Music Editor 2017 (talk) 15:21, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Draft:Pan Kim

Dear Editor AngusWOOF,

I am writing regarding a recently rejected article Draft:Pan Kim. First of all, I would like to thank you for your time reviewing the draft.

As a quick reminder, your concern/comment on the article is as follows: "Please specify how Kim meets WP:NACADEMIC." I have reviewed the notability guidelines, and revised the draft to clarify how Kim meets the conditions noted on WP:NACADEMIC. Providing an overview below.

Criterion 2 International-level Academic Award: The awards listed under the "Selected Awards and Honors" section of the draft are considered major awards in the area of Public Administration. Per WP:NACADEMIC, publications of the awarding institution are considered a reliable source, so I revised the draft to include 1) the name of the awarding institution, and 2) reference to the publication of the awarding institution.

Criterion 3 Elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society: Kim is an elected lifetime international fellow of the National Academy of Public Administration, a congressionally chartered non-partisan non-profit academy in Washington D.C. Per WP:NACADEMIC, publications of the electing institution are considered a reliable source, so I again revised the draft to include 1) the name of the electing institution, and 2) reference to the publication of the electing institution.

Criterion 4 Affecting academic institutions: As an example, I'd like to highlight his article (with Gregory Lewis) entitled “ Asian Americans in the Public Service: Success, Diversity, and Discrimination” published in the Public Administration Review (volume 54, number 3) in 1994. Such is the first article dealing with Asian American employment and representation in the American federal government. This article is now frequently used for discussing diversity and representation matters in the American public personnel management classes. This article is recently included in a book edited by Walter Doyce Broadnax, who was a Distinguished Professor of Public Administration at the Maxwell School of Syracuse University and the president of Clark Atlanta University in Atlanta, entitled Diversity and Affirmative Action in Public Service (Taylor and Francis, 2018).

Criterion 5 Appointment as a "Distinguished Professor": Kim was a Distinguished Professor at Yonsei University. Per WP:NACADEMIC guidelines, I've updated the draft to include 1) the name of the appointing institution, and 2) reference to the publication of the appointing institution.

Criterion 7 Impact outside academia in their academic capacity: Kim has served as the Minister of Personnel Management in the Republic of Korea (and Secretary to the President for Personnel Policy prior to that). Also, although not noted in the article draft, as another example of his activities outside academia, Kim recently held a session at Indonesia's 2019 Presidential Lecture. Also as noted in the draft, Kim has led a number of professional associations, and was a member of the United Nations Committee of Experts on Public Administration for two terms.

Criterion 8 Chief Editorship: Kim served as the editor-in-chief of well-regarded academic journals in the Public Administration subject area. I've updated the draft to make sure the article includes a reliable reference (i.e. publications of the journal / publishers).

In addition to the points above, I noted that tone & bias may potentially be of concern, so I've cleaned-up what I could find. As noted in WP:NACADEMIC guidelines, professors who meet any of the conditions are considered notable, so I would greatly appreciate if you could please kindly re-review the draft in discussion. Thank you for your time and attention!

Very respectfully, Justinkym (talk) 04:18, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Justinkym, thanks for the detailed list and adding in the sources to justify it. I'm ready to accept the article into mainspace, just have to clear some network issue that popped up on Wikipedia today. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:58, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, thank you so much for your valuable time and attention! Justinkym (talk) 14:58, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Help Please!

As you may know, I've been creating the page for Zenati. Can you go through everything I need for the page? Note: he isn't as popular as other artists but has been doing music for a while.

Thanks in advance. --Okiokidude (talk) 21:16, 26 July 2019 (UTC)7/26/19[reply]

Okiokidude, the main thing is to provide news sources to show he meets WP:MUSICBIO. You can list WP:THREE news articles that are independent of his production team that go over his career in detail but that are not interviews. The discography looks like a copy of his website with all the personal comments, so it really should be removed and only labeled albums and charted singles should be posted. Has he even charted anywhere? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:02, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As I have said before, he is not very popular. He posts his music on YouTube. Second, He has no website. All of the music information is from when he promotes his releases. Okiokidude (talk) 22:12, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okiokidude, if he has no coverage in newspapers and news websites then he's probably not ready to have a Wikipedia article. See WP:SOUNDCLOUDBAND AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:18, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

article about Abstract Division

I would need some more direct help and guidelines in order to know, which sources do not count as reliable. I read all the wiki instructions, but it is difficult for me to understand, what is allowed and what is not. Is there a way to talk in private or we have to discuss it all here? I am planning to update many other artists in the techno scene, as I think that those, who have been in the scene for long, deserve it, just like pop singers or other celebrities. Some already have a page, but I would like to extend it with a lot more information, but for that I need to have a better understanding in which information I can use from pages like Discogs or Resident Advisor, or whether I can refer to a Dutch online news magazine as a source in an English wiki article etc. Could you help me, please, to do it right?

Yes, you can use Dutch news and music magazines. See WP:RSP. If they have charted in Netherlands, see WP:CHART for which charts would be applicable. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:04, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

At Glossary of anime and manga I noticed that you recently changed some anchor links. For example this edit changed {{Anchor|Bakunyu}} to {{va|bakunyū}}. Note that anchor links are sensitive to capitalization, so the change from capital to lowercase broke several incoming links to the glossary-anchors page. This particular edit also changed the diacritics, so this particular anchor broke on two character mismatches. I've edited all incoming links to Glossary of anime and manga to match the new anchor links, so there's nothing more to do regarding this page. However if you have made any anchor edits on other pages you should check whether there are be any broken links anywhere else, and either restore the anchors or change all incoming links to match. Alsee (talk) 06:33, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alsee, you can add back caps to any broken anchors. That's fair to do. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:31, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cheesecake Day

Please check Cheesecake Day again and let me know your feedback. As a fan of Daily fun holidays, I am trying to add content and update Wikipedia with reliable information and sources. Cheesecake day is one of the top trending daily holidays and since there are pages for days like National deep fried clams day that has less content and is less relevant and less popular, it exists. So I just added more resources and information to show it's relevance. Please let me know on holidays like this if there is something in particular that I am missing? Why are do some unofficial holidays have a page and others get rejected? Cheesecake day is one of the most commonly known of the food days. I just think it should have a page :) Just trying to learn and get it right so I know when I should try to add pages for these days and when I shouldn't. Thanks! (April2029 (talk) 08:35, 28 July 2019 (UTC))[reply]

April2029, please find some news articles that discuss it in detail and where it wouldn't be just another entry on the List of food holidays. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:03, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Biography entry for Remy Zero and The Church guitarist Jeffrey Cain

AngusWOOF, Thank you for the feedback. I am fairly new to this but would like to be more active and help fill in the gaps on some musical and art subjects. You did mention that more news articles like al.com would be good as references. I had included data off the Official Emmy website as I thought that was as close to the source as possible. Did i iclude it the correct way? Would it be better for me to include articles from larger magazines such as Rolling Stone and Spin? Thank you!

Yes, please include mainstream news articles and magazine articles that cover Cain in detail but are not mainly Q&A interviews since that would be a primary source WP:PRIMARY. The Emmy one shows he got nominated, but doesn't provide significant coverage on him. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:47, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AngusWOOF A new page was created by COI editor User:Deenos3, who has declared COI on his user page. The new content seems to pass WP:GNG and has WP:RS. I have manually moved content from Ritesh Agarwal (entrepreneur) to Ritesh Agarwal. I am not 100% sure it was done correct and there is also a draft page Draft:Ritesh Agarwal for it. Can you please look into this? Meeanaya (talk) 08:02, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Meeanaya, normally we would use AFCH to process drafts, but since the editor, who may or may not be different from the draft editor, has directly created the page and you moved it from mainspace to mainspace. I would leave the COI tag on unless another editor has neutralized it for self-promotional tone. Also see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ritesh Agarwal and remove any claims of notability / awards mentioned there. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 15:44, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, it seems that someone has pulled Ritesh Agarwal page down again based on 2016 AFD. It seems that they have not reviewed the sources which were indepth. The current page has in-depth sources and sufficient RS to qualify for a Wiki page. Can you please look into this? Even, I was not the page creator however someone has added it on my talk page. I don't have enough experience or really not sure what can be done, but yes I truly believe, he is one of the most notable entrepreneur in the country. Meeanaya (talk) 04:46, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Meeanaya, I would merge it into the Oyo Rooms article. A lot of Agarwal's life can go into that since that's his main business. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 05:44, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, I have just filed an undeletion request here. Meeanaya (talk) 05:48, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Compass NASA

AngusWOOF, I have made the recommended changes to the draft I submitted. I would appreciate it if you could re-review it. My internship is almost over and my boss would like this page to be created to help inform the public about the cool stuff Compass is working on. Arambasek10 (talk) 15:27, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Arambasek10, are there any more secondary source news articles you can add to show significant coverage of the program? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:54, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, I have added a few more secondary source news articles. Arambasek10 (talk) 18:03, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF if you could get back to me about this I would appreciate it. Thanks. Arambasek10 (talk) 15:35, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Arambasek10, I would send it back into the queue, and see if another AFC reviewer can take a look at it. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:15, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AngusWOOF, I have resubmitted the draft of my article. Arambasek10 (talk) 15:13, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Safety Sign

Hi AngusWOOF, User:The Navigators would like to discuss with you about us declining his draft, Draft:Safety sign as " I could make the improve the article a bit more from the original submission, and put together a split proposal to take non-traffic warning signs from the existing Warning sign article, this would be a suitable article". I believe that his draft is different enough from the existing article, Warning sign to be its own article.

Thank you, --BoothSiftTalks 00:33, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Boothsift, see the split proposal at Talk:Warning_sign#Splitting_proposal_-_Non-traffic_warning_signs/wet_floor_signs_(Safety_signs). That one's been around for months, so you don't need to add a second proposal. It looks like there aren't any objectiions with splitting this. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:52, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay let me send it forth. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:26, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Navigators, please read WP:SPLITTING regarding documenting any sections where you are coping or moving material off the Warning sign article to move to Safety sign. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:33, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I've added the 'Copied' Template to the Talk:Safety sign. Should the material on Warning sign - Non-traffic warning signs be removed, or otherwise edited down?--The Navigators (talk) 06:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You can edit it down, and move the gallery if appropriate. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 06:11, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'll take a look at it today or tomorrow. I think that covers everything, and we can call this matter closed, unless there's anything you or @Boothsift: can think of. Thanks to both of you for your assistance.--The Navigators (talk) 10:48, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Title

Can you please change the title of the draft NM5* to NM5 please. thank u. Barbie Tingz (talk) 17:31, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Barbie Tingz, do you have sources that confirm that will be the new title? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:37, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No Barbie Tingz (talk) 17:41, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I meant NM5* Barbie Tingz (talk) 17:44, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Barbie Tingz, we need to find out what the new title of the album will be. If it's going to stay at NM5* then no need to rename. If it's going to be something else, then it will be that other title. NM5 can redirect to NM5*. Right now there aren't enough sources to make this an actual article yet so the redirect to the discography or to Minaj will stay for now. Genius isn't a reliable source. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:46, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 19:02:30, 30 July 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by ZTSystemsMarcom


Hello! Thanks for reviewing my submission for ZT Systems. Unfortunately, there's little secondary coverage of ZT due to our business model, however the company is substantially larger and more notable in our industry than many of the companies listed at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_system_manufacturers#Current as you can see based on the mentions in the several published, reliable, secondary sources I included. I can resubmit under this account if necessary; please reconsider approval.


Also: I have removed references to 'solutions' and resubmitted, hope that helps.

ZTSystemsMarcom (talk) 19:02, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ZTSystemsMarcom, you'll have to pick another username as Marcom still represents a group. See WP:UPOL AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:26, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DoneTravisG80 (talk) 19:39, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Pollock (voice actor)

For your patient work on this article and with the editors who worked on it.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:57, 31 July 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Rich Farmbrough, is the article being spammed with unreliable sources again? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 17:17, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think so. I just happened to be looking at the history and talk page, and was impressed with the way you comported yourself, as well as the amount of effort you put in. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:50, 2 August 2019 (UTC).[reply]
Rich Farmbrough, thanks, yes, that was a challenging article to deal with, especially back then when Mike himself was also chiming in. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 23:45, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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A tag has been placed on Ritesh Agarwal requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. — kashmīrī TALK 19:45, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kashmiri, I sent this note to the editor who set up the article in mainspace. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:20, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Oscar Randal-Williams

Thanks for your comment on my draft!

I want to note that the position of reader in the UK is comparable to full professor in the US, see the corresponding Wikipedia Article on this topic. "The title of reader in the United Kingdom [...] denotes an appointment for a senior academic with a distinguished international reputation in research or scholarship."

So I do not understand why in your opinion, it does not meet the Wikipedia standards for academics.

Reader is placed with associate professor, as opposed to named / distinguished, but please build up your case on either the talk page or the article comments section so other reviewers can see. You can go into detail there like how Pan Kim in the thread above was constructed. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 21:44, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can You Help Me With this Wiki Draft

draft:Jack Bin (demule wilondja) also thank if you help me to with all good and lucky bless.

Please see WP:MUSICBIO on what sources you need to show this singer is notable. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 19:07, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
can you check it now if it look fine draft:Jack Bin (demule wilondja)

draft:Jack Bin (demule wilondja)Erinsivek

Erinsivek, please go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Bin (Demule Wilondja) and explain why you think this article should stay around. And suggest not using your teacher's name as a username. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:36, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind checking it out? Well, it does look better now ain't it? At first it was like movie commercial :D Regards Mithoron (talk) 00:23, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mithoron, it's still just one role, doesn't meet WP:ENT which requires multiple starring ones in major productions. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:37, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I count 3 significant roles, in The Love Witch, Cam and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. OK, in Once... it's not a big role, but the movie is "big". There's also one in preproduction and one in postproduction - both starring (and small one filming). So I think she really "broke through". Mithoron (talk) 23:05, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Of these, only Love Witch is a major role. The others are major productions, but she doesn't have star/poster billing in either of these. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 23:14, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh, it can wait a year or two for these additional credits, if you wish, but I hope nobody nukes this draft in te meantime (like earlier one abot this actress) Mithoron (talk) 23:32, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Mithoron, it can continue to be worked on while more credits or news articles come in. Drafts get archived after 6 months of inactivity but can be retrieved from there if it goes that long without significant edits. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 12:39, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Musical Artist Running Late

Hey there AngusWOOF! I read your comments about needing to add more external sources that are not affiliated with the band's website or Patch articles, and added a significant amount of new sources into the reference list. They range between official newspapers features to articles written by reputable independent sources. If there's anything else that needs to be done then please feel free to inform me, hope to talk soon! Janeallen24 (talk) 22:31, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Janeallen24, it's still sourced by local papers, and is mostly Q&A interviews. Any others that are independent? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:41, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Any others as in additional news sources that aren't strictly Q&A and are local papers? I can look to see if other towns or news outlets have written anything else on them. Their tour history indicates quite a bit of activity across the east coast, so ill look into it more. Question though, what is your view on the strength of local media to the band? If its a viable criteron, I can probably find more articles pertaining to them in paper or online. Hope to talk soon! Janeallen24 (talk) 22:53, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Janeallen24, I'm trying to see how it can meet WP:MUSICBIO if it doesn't have any songs or albums that have charted. Otherwise it's in danger of being a WP:GARAGE band AngusWOOF (barksniff) 23:12, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey AngusWOOF! I actually just found a Channel News12 television feature of the band which covered another benefit show they did in Jersey City, would this constitute viability for being noteworthy?

Also, I looked at the Criterion for WP:MUSICBIO and honestly see this subject qualifying under 2 circumstances: 1) Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability. - I've provided numerous newspaper articles thus far of them doing quite a number of noteworthy activities for the local scene of the city of Madison, NJ; from coverage about them winning a huge battle of the bands event, to newspaper coverage of them performing for one of the biggest cancer society groups in the nation, which leads to 2) Having won third, second, or first place in a major music competition - the Hard Rock Rising battle of the bands was a nation wide competition, and I would believe this would certainly constitute for this criteria.

Also, even though I too can't find songs or albums from them that have charted, being considered noteworthy under Wikepedia's standards only requires the subject to fulfill one of the criterion correct? Either way; I truly appreciate the clarity on all of these topics, and look forward to talking soon!Janeallen24 (talk) 23:52, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Janeallen24, Hard Rock NYC was a local competition back then: "Hard Rock Cafe New York will host a battle event where local bands The Danbees from Brooklyn, N.Y., Sunill Nareign from Bronx, N.Y., Running Late from Madison, N.J. and Pool Cosby from Brooklyn, N.Y. will be judged by a panel of local industry experts including Frank Bello, the high energy, always-rocking bassist of New York thrash" . I just scrubbed through the news sources. There are a bunch of ones coming from Madison Eagle, which are okay, but the other local news websites such as Patch, TAPinto and It's Revelant are not clear whether they would be reliable sources. The TV broadcast is a passing mention of the band for like 2 seconds. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 13:19, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey AngusWOOF! The live competition back then was more nuanced than just showing up and playing. Everyone who participated in the live battle had to go through a vigorous online voting period which involved thousands of acts. In the Eagle article, it references that the band had to beat out more than 7,000 entries to just make it to the live performance at the Hard Rock, which I believe would certainly constitute to scale of a major music competition as per Wikipedia's Criteria 9 for notability.

As per the other sources, I can prune out every article that isn't from The Madison Eagle, along with the information that they cite. That being said, I've discovered an archived TV Interview and performance of the band on a really big cable television show called Mallets Place TV that aired on the east coast and west coat. Is this possible to cite for notability? Thanks for the continued communication, hope to talk soon! Janeallen24 (talk) 14:02, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Janeallen24, the interview would be another primary source. It needs some secondary ones. If they made the NYT articles for Hard Rock's Battle of the Bands, that would be helpful. But it's not the same level as the 2015 global winner https://blog.reverbnation.com/2015/07/24/announcing-the-winner-of-hard-rock-rising-2015-enemy-planes/ If a news segment focused on the band rather than the fundraiser, that would be significant coverage as well. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 14:14, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey AngusWOOF! Okay, so would you suggest for me in the meantime to compile more information from the Madison Eagle and other reliable local newspapers on the band? Its definitely something I can do, and can get on to doing right away. Also, about how many more local newspaper features would I need to find for you to feel comfortable in this band becoming notable. Thanks again for the communication, hope to talk soon! Janeallen24 (talk) 14:26, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Janeallen24, it doesn't need more Madison Eagle / New Jersey Hills ones, but you can pursue the other local media stations, television perhaps? Local community news publications would be okay, like the ones that would normally have advertising for real estate people. It's just that Patch and TapInto seem self-published / borderline, but at least they aren't Huffington Post / Forbes contributor sections which are no good WP:RSP. You could leave the Patch / TapInto in there for now. Maybe another AFC reviewer will have a different opinion on them? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 14:42, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Janeallen24, here's a link to discussion on whether Patch Media is reliable, which seems to be a no. Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_260#patch.com_Patch_Media, Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_88#patch.com_as_a_reliable_source. I'm assuming Tap Into is similar. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 16:35, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey AngusWOOF! Thanks for the clarity on the Patch and Tap Into, I just pruned the page of all questionable sources. Also, I archived a new Madison Eagle article I found that confirms the band headlined the major cancer benefit show for Susan G. Komen in both 2017 and 2018 (which has been added to the reference list).

That being said AngusWOOF, I recently discovered that the band was featured on a pretty major radio station twice: "The Real Radio Show WRCN 103.9FM". They apparently had two singles in rotation: "These Days" and "Stay Awake". This station is apparently an affiliate of Fox News Radio, and broadcasts internationally. The station is also apparently licensed with ASCAP, BMI, and Sound Exchange. What are your thoughts as to the notability of this, considering that is also leans on Criteria 11 of Musician Notability? Thanks again for all of the help thus far, hope to talk soon! Janeallen24 (talk) 18:46, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Janeallen24, WRCN playlist isn't in national rotation like some of those Cumulus stations or nationally syndicated radio shows (NPR, Dr. Demento), but it helps a little bit. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 22:15, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey AngusWOOF! Okay cool, if it helps even a little, ill add it and cite it into the draft under the appropriate sections. Also, Ive uncovered television footage of them performing on a pretty big cable television show called "Mallets Place TV". The show apparently broadcasts to markets in both the east and west coast, and are associated with Time Warner Cable. What are your thoughts for this? Thank you once again for the continued communication, talk soon! Janeallen24 (talk) 22:42, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AngusWOOF Unfortunately I cannot find the actual audio of their tracks being played on their station, only the dates that the songs were on rotation from sources that probably don't meet these standards of reliability. UPDATE: I've found a crude audio recording of their feature on The Real Radio Show, which also includes the station playing their single "These Days" live on air along with an interview. I can't find evidence of their second feature on the show, but I've archived the audio and have it cited for their song "These Days" in the draft. Looking forward to your thoughts on this.

In other news, I archived the band's footage that I found from their performance on "Mallets Place TV", which has been cited and is currently in the draft. Since this television program technically aired nationally, and is a product of Time Warner Cable, I'm looking forward to your thoughts on how this addition contributes towards notability as per Critera 12 of musician notability. Thanks again for the continued communication, talk soon! Janeallen24 (talk) 23:57, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Commented out entries on dab page?

Hey. When you made Good Together a disambiguation page, why did you comment out several entries? [3] Scarlet Pleasure and Kelvin Jones (singer) had articles then, with the former having the song title mentioned at the page. Ss112 03:02, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ss112, Kelvin Jones single wasn't mentioned on the article. I just checked the others and they're okay to add back in, listed in the discography. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 12:24, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For work in trasoccking down the extensive socking, flacking, and paid editing of Jack Bin. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:52, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sachdev-Ye-Kitaev Draft

It's unfortunate that you rejected this draft. It's a major and growing topic in quantum gravity, the original paper has hundreds of citations, and it was already referenced in several places in Wikipedia, which I have wikified. I will add to it when I can, but I don't know when that will be. Mporter (talk) 08:25, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mporter, if it is a growing topic, it should be discussed as such in more newspapers, magazines and journals. Also the SYK article needs context as to how the term came about and how it was coined and adopted in the community. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:37, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:TemplateMonster

Hi, I re-wrote the article in order to make it more neutral and connected the links. Could you please have a look? Thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:TemplateMonster

Desquark, there are still a pile of links at the bottom that aren't connected to the article. Also how you are citing the references needs to be cleaned up. Do you have some articles that are independent of the subject but cover it in detail beyond the press releases / general acquisition news? AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:39, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cradle draft

Hey! I noticed that on my draft, you commented it had too much extra information, and I was wondering if you could elaborate on which parts I should remove/cut down or are not needed. Thanks! Purreader (talk) 18:48, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Purreader, the main thing is that you need to find book reviews for the series from notable sites and journals such as Publishers Weekly, School Library Journal, New York Times and Kirkus. As for what to trim down, I would remove the Magic system part as that reads like gamecruft. The summaries should be shortened to film length (less than 700 words, preferably 400). It should not be a copy of the text on Wikia, even though Wikias are freely licensed, there is concern it may have copy-pasted someone else's summary and review. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:35, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, maybe I should have asked about this first... it's a self-published book, and although it's very well-known and popular on the Kindle Store and in the fantasy world, it is not listed on the websites you mentioned because it does not have a publisher. I have found other reviews and interviews, but they are not on as well-known sites. Is it still eligible, or should I cut my losses and go? (I didn't copy anything from the wiki, just linked it for people to read more) Purreader (talk) 08:49, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Absolute Carnage

Hello there, I recently elaborated on Draft:Absolute Carnage and I want to know your opinion. Just to be clear, I modeled the draft after the War of the Realms article, just letting you know. Penguin7812(Talk Page) 07:02, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please re-review my draft

Hey AngusWOOF, I have edited this article/draft to the best of my ability to make it neutral and to provide reliable resources. If there is anything you can edit to improve the article please go ahead. Or if you have any suggestions please let me know. Thank you.