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(Talk page watcher comments welcome) Note to self

Been wondering if [2][3][4] are enough to make this often-cited photo of the 2019–20 Australian bushfire season notable under WP:GNG terms. There are other passing mentions in this Google hit list. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Parvardigar prayer

Parvardigar Prayer by Meher Baba has nothing to do with scattered lines of Pete Townshend's O' Parvardigar (album). Pete Townshend was just a meher baba follower, who re-used meher baba's dictated prayer in his album. If you dont know the facts and have zero idea about Meher Baba biography, read published sources. Just because you are an administrator How can you recklessly, and ridiculously redirect Parvardigar Prayer to Pete Townshend's O' Parvardigar (album), they both are not related at all. Pinkymama (talk) 11:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Winged Blades of Godric, 4meter4, ChrisWar666, and Pinkymama: No, I was actioning the results of this discussion where that stance was supported by other editors. And to be frank, a) from reading the articles I don't get the impression that that decision is wrong and b) you are being rather discourteous. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:40, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You and :@Winged Blades of Godric, 4meter4, and ChrisWar666: need to include subject matter experts on Meher Baba topics to take a stand on whether to retain these articles;

For example, just because you (for that matter any western editor) are not aware of the content related to prayers listed in Vedas and upanishads, which were not published by any publishing house, you cant just go on deleting all articles which administrators are not aware of which are actually authentic and published. In addition such writings have had a cult following by the worldwide meher baba community. So you cant be biased between articles or prayers related to meher baba with upanishad, and bible citing notability, and the fact that a small group of editors do not have access to authentic sources.Pinkymama (talk) 10:01, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, this isn't how we do such things. Sources that are not independent from the subject don't create notability, and neither does a cult following. It's also not a matter of having access to the sources, but that nobody has presented or mentioned any sources that would establish notability. That's what needs to happen, not making accusations. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:12, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How would people who never heard of meher baba present or mention any sources that would establish notability, other than followers of meher baba. On the other hand, Meher Spiritual Center in Myrtle beach, and Sufism Reoriented Sanctuary in Walnut creek are physical locations. Then why dont we re-store those articles for which sources independent of the subject are available. (so would you allow me to add those references specific for the both articles mentioned by me now, and establish notability?).Pinkymama (talk) 09:50, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are more requirements for notability than just being independent; see WP:SIGCOV again. It does not really matter who presents a source. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:56, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So Meher Spiritual Center, Meher Mount, and Avatar's Abode cannot be notable as decided by just 4 wikipedia editors, and one administrator. So this is how wikipedia works, then it cannot be called an encyclopedia. It can be called as a monopoly of administrators. Thank you Pinkymama (talk) 10:57, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Article request

I would like the contents of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 Lilbourn, Missouri Earthquake in a draft space. Thank you. Elijahandskip (talk) 19:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Elijahandskip: It looks like Draft:2019 Lilbourn, Missouri Earthquake is almost entirely identical to the deleted article. In fact, I suspect that the deleted article was derived from that draft. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus at Jamal Simmons

I wouldn't have made a fuss otherwise, but at the AfD, you specifically said "all the sources presented so far have been contested". That does not appear to be the case, since nobody mentioned the three sources that I presented on January 31. This comment was a reply to someone who said another acceptable source would change his or her vote. Additionally, two of the five delete !voters also suggested draftification. Do you have a copy of the article to put in a draft somewhere? Connor Behan (talk) 13:49, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Connor Behan: Hrm. I think it was missed because it was in a heavily indented subbullet. I am loath to draftify stuff because of the reasons mentioned at User:Paul_012/Drafts are broken, but if you want userfication - i.e a move to User:Connor Behan/Jamal Simmons - that can be done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:12, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your close of Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 January 31#Clarice Phelps. It didn't go the way I wanted, but your closing statement was well written and fairly summarizes all the various points of view. My fear was that this would languish unclosed, for lack of anybody brave enough to take it on. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:49, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I entirely agree with RoySmith - thank you for your thoughtful close. SportingFlyer T·C 09:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review

Goodday Jo-Jo Eumerus, Alex Shih salted Big Boy Toyz back in 2007 but I've noticed he is no longer an admin. I believe inexperienced editors were affiliated with it. Please kindly unsalt it as I have a draft which you can review and compare to the old version Draft:Big Boy Toyz. Thanks Dileshwar Singh Patil (talk) 06:34, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings. @Dileshwar Singh Patil: upon checking the draft it seems like it might be a little promotional. Also, I do not generally review drafts; I think you should ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:18, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you:) - but my main inquiry is about the page creation protection assigned by User:Alex Shih (who is no longer an admin) before moving on to ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk, since these page protection actions are done by admins and not AfC reviewers/participants. Dileshwar Singh Patil (talk) 15:51, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dileshwar Singh Patil:As far as I can tell, I haven't done anything on this page at all and there are some admins such as 331dot active on the Help Desk. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:54, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't worry about the salting of the article until the draft is accepted, it can be dealt with then. 331dot (talk)

@331dot: But the draft article (Draft:Big Boy Toyz) can't be accepted by an AfC editor/page reviewer if the main article (Big Boy Toyz) is salted. Dileshwar Singh Patil (talk) 17:47, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If the reviewer decides the draft can be accepted(you have not yet submitted it, I will add the tag so you can do so), they can deal with getting it moved to article space. You are kind of putting the cart before the horse- worry about it getting accepted first. 331dot (talk) 18:43, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alright understood @331dot: Thanks again:) Dileshwar Singh Patil (talk) 07:55, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Done, as well as the other disambiguations that were linked. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:21, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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