Talk:Yakhini massacre

Additional citations for Articles and rewrite

As per discussion at AfD I have reviewed and summarized the current sources, and added confirmation with English refs. That work is posted below. I will be using this to rewrite the article in NPOV wiki voice over the next hours. Ayenaee (talk) 16:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Updated, summarized, references for Yakhani article

Reference Address / Title / Date	Description	Summary
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/bypjr5gbt מגיעים בטנדר, פורקים - וטובחים: תיעודים מהזוועות במתקפת חמאס 10 October 2023	Hebrew, in current article	Squad of dozens of Hamas militants raided Moshav Yachini in the morning. Security camera footage shows them arriving in a van, and entering the moshav through a side gate because the main gate was locked. Two young woman run out and shelter behind a car as they are shot at by a militant. They are subsequently saved by IDF soldiers. One of them appears to be limping. After entering the moshav the militants killed 4 people and later an additional 3 men. Included in the dead were an 18-year-old young man, a man in his home and another man walking his dog. Moshav Chief Rabbi Ariel Zahavi heard about the raid while on holiday in Baku. He manageed the moshav’s response remotely. According to Zahavi the eighteen person protection team, armed with pistols and only one automatic weapon, were unable to defend the moshav against the militants’ kalashnikovs. The militants were eventually killed by teams from the YAMAM and Sayeret Matkal IDF units.
https://nypost.com/2023/10/13/video-shows-israeli-women-caught-in-battle-with-hamas-terrorists/ Chilling video captures Israeli women dodging bullets as local forces confront Hamas terrorists 13/10/23	English, new Unreliable resource, replaced by Reuters.	Confirmation of ynet Hebrew description of video in English.
https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idRW900811102023RP1 CCTV footage shows fighting near kibbutz in Yachini 11 October 2023	English, new	Replacement (for unreliable NY Post) confirmation of Hebrew description of video in English
https://zakaworld.org/israeli-casualties-of-october-7th-2023/ Israeli casualties of October 7th, 2023 23 October 2023	English, new	Replacement (for unreliable NY Post) confirmation of death. 7 as for ynet ref (NY Post said 4)
https://www.israelhayom.co.il/news/local/article/14702311 אני אהיה ראשונה, תחפה עליי ואני אחפה עליך": לוחמת מג"ב רווית אסייג נפלה בקרב במושב יכיני" 12 October 2023	Hebrew, in current article	Israeli border police officer Ravit Assayag was defending the moshav when she was shot and killed by militants on entering a building before her fellow officers.
https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article280718955.html There are human beings who are suffering on both sides of the war - Opinion 18 October 2023	English, new	Confirmation of border officer death
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/hj00nme4b6 (Hebrew, in current article, but doesn’t the reference wording, see summary below) מעטים מול רבים: הצל"שניק שלקח פיקוד על הפלגה, והקצין שהציל תצפיתניות 11 October 2023	Hebrew, in current article, not ref for wording, see summary	An unnamed IDF major in the Maglan unit while searching the moshav encountered and neutralized two militants. He was injured in the fight and was taken to hospital in stable condition.
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b1g4ty2za 'I will find the time to mourn my son, but now we have to fight,' IDF Lt. Col. says 18 October 2023	English, replacing current Hebrew, same source	Yehonatan Hajabi, the 18 year old who was killed, was the son of reserve Lieutenant Colonel Nir Hajabi who was on holiday in Baku at the time of the attack. He was in contact with his son as he died from a chest wound. On his return to Israel he asked to be activated as commander of his battalion the Daniel brigade saying: "I will find the time to mourn my son – now we have to fight”. He and some of his brigade ensured that Yehonatan’s brother and mother who also lived in Yakhini were taken to safety.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/10/middleeast/israel-kibbutzim-kfar-aza-beeri-urim-hamas-attack-intl/index.html Children found ‘butchered’ in Israeli kibbutz, IDF says, as horror of Hamas’ attacks near border begins to emerge 13 October 2023	English, new	IDF retired Major General Itai Veruv reenlisted, and his troops fought first at Yakhini. They then fought battles on the road to Sderot, before reaching Be’eri.

Ayenaee (talk) 18:10, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Rewrite complete

• Rewrite completed and live. Following changes made

- Citations updated and added to. There are now 4 out of 7 English citations with summaries of Hebrew citations given on this page.

- Text rewritten in NPOV and wiki voice to align with citations

- Citations given for deaths and injuries

- Infobox updated

• In terms of AFD, citation needed, and NPOV tags:

- I have provided additional refs, clarified Hebrew refs, and aligned text to refs. I have rewritten the article in a neutral way only referencing exactly what is said in the refs. I believe the citation/NPOV tag can now be removed, but will leave that for others.

- I don’t believe that the article meets AfD requirements anymore. The article is notable because of the deaths on all sides mentioned in more than one citation. It’s also notable because of the video which was reported by media worldwide. This article is now of the same wiki standard as the other articles (on Gaza, West Bank, and Israel) which provide more detail on specific incidents

• If there are minor corrections (spelling, grammar, formatting etc) you want to make please make them directly to the article.
• Any other changes should be brought to this talk page for discussion and consensus. I don’t think WP:BRD will work on these kinds of page because of their sensitive nature and misunderstandings that can occur (IMHO not a wiki rule).

I wish everyone peace and good editing Ayenaee (talk) 22:41, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

The New York Post is listed as "generally unreliable" on the Perennial Sources list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#New_York_Post David O. Johnson (talk) 23:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks - I’ll see what else I can find (and look at the list 😏) Ayenaee (talk) 23:14, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

I’ve replaced NYP with 2 refs:

- One reflecting video events in English

- One agreeing with ynet that number of deaths was 7 (NYP reflected 4, so article said 4-7, but I’ve replaced this with 7 only now)

I’ve also updated ref table above. Thanks for the heads-up. Ayenaee (talk) 15:04, 7 November 2023 (UTC)