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Issue with RFAP script

When I try to use the script, it gives this response: While getting the wikitext, there was an error. Is that a bug? KGirl (Wanna chat?) 15:31, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. Recent changes to the script must've moved stuff around. I fixed it. Thanks for pointing this out! Enterprisey (talk!) 04:02, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is still not fixed, just displays an error again. I've temporarily uninstalled this script until issue is fixed. KGirl (Wanna chat?) 14:05, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
KGirlTrucker81, that's weird, since I just tested it again on a bunch of browsers and it works on my end. Do you think you could post what the error was? Enterprisey (talk!) 19:33, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It give no error information while it's says getting the wikitext, possibly the script doesn't work in Microsoft Edge on a xbox one console. Sometimes, it's a pain and awful to edit WP on a video game console. KGirl (Wanna chat?) 23:56, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It does work on chrome and many browsers, but doesn't work in Edge. KGirl (Wanna chat?) 17:47, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delsort script

I have a thought or two about making this a little nicer for small form factor:

  • Make the category list a dropdown rather than radio buttons.
  • If you make it a dropdown, you can probably stack the two columns instead of having two columns. If you don't make it a dropdown, it might be nice if the two columns had a column-width associated and were able to fall below the other.

Just some thoughts. Definitely an improvement over FWDS. --Izno (talk) 14:11, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In response to the first bullet point, I sort of want to reduce the number of clicks it takes to categorize something as much as possible, but if it's an inconvenience, I can definitely change it. And the second bullet point is a good idea that I should implement soon. Enterprisey (talk!) 22:07, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not an inconvenience per se, but Chrome on Android doesn't handle it great. No worries if you don't chase the first one. The second one would be much improved for mobile. --Izno (talk) 12:17, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2017).

Administrator changes

added Boing! said Zebedee • Ansh666 • Ad Orientem
removed Tonywalton • AmiDaniel • Silence • BanyanTree • Magioladitis • Vanamonde93 • Mr.Z-man • Jdavidb • Jakec • Ram-Man • Yelyos • Kurt Shaped Box

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Community consultation on the 2017 candidates for CheckUser and Oversight has concluded. The Arbitration Committee will appoint successful candidates by October 11.
  • A request for comment is open regarding the structure, rules, and procedures of the December 2017 Arbitration Committee election, and how to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
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Idea for AfC tool

Could it be possible to have a checkmark for drafts in the "very old" category? -- I dream of horses  If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message  (talk to me) (My edits) @ 01:12, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I asked for clarification on IRC, IDoH is referring to [1]. Primefac (talk) 01:55, 5 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)[reply]
I dream of horses,  Done! Enterprisey (talk!) 04:36, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Minor bug in AfD stat tool

Hi - I voted delete for an article, in bold, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RIMS Risk Maturity Model and commented that I was trying to find a keep and regretted that I couldn't. The tool took that word keep and marked my vote as a keep. Is there a way to change the code to just count the first occurrence of keep, delete, redirect or merge? TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:10, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Working on a bug fix now. Should be coming out in a few days when I finish it. Thanks for noticing! Enterprisey (talk!) 22:14, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Florence Mary Bird - I created This page and it has been deleted and sent to DRAFT status

Dear Enterprisey - I'm at a loss as to what my next steps should be regarding the deletion of the page Florence Mary Bird - a resident of Wisconsin who is a well-know regional artist from Prairie du Chien. I cited all of the news coverage of her work (granted, it is limited) but the fact remains there is news coverage. I feel I have wrongly been accused of violating the COI policies which ironically are based in PURE SPECULATION -- something Wikipedia always espouses people should never do. This is purely a case of a friend of mine who knows Florence if I could create a Wiki page for her - no compensation whatsoever. It is a FACT that she does exist, has created numerous works of high-value sculptures that are housed in "PUBLIC" venues such as STATE PARKS. The fact that not much NEWS COVERAGE exists should NOT preclude this amazing artist from being denied a place on Wiki and we would hope that, as a resident of Wisconsin who focuses much of her work on the history of the state, that you would lobby for her inclusion.

I am NOT a Wiki expert. In fact, this was my first attempt at creating a page. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND the need for guidelines and protocol but I honestly believe that whomever the powers that be at Wiki really need to examine their guidelines and protocols. What started out as a place for the world to see and use has turned into a mind boggling site for of endless pages of rules, protocols, coded language that many will never master, and a community that makes assumptions and accusations that are not true (for example, "that the author is a close friend or family member, there is no legitimate news coverage, etc."

If this is the way Wiki works, once I complete this effort (if that is even possible), it will likely be my last attempt at contributing.

As I have stated before, I understand and respect the guidelines and protocols - but this has become an insane exercise in futility and frustration - all for the price of trying to help a Wisconsin artist who CLEARLY deserves to be on Wiki.

Anything you can do to help right this wrong would be appreciated. Bob — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob Schiers (talk • contribs) 19:53, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Schiers, for what it's worth, your work hasn't been deleted, it's been converted to a draft (see Draft:Florence Mary Bird). I believe this was done in order for you to have an opportunity to further improve the page. Primefac (talk) 21:56, 8 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)[reply]

AFD tool

Hi there. I don't seem to be able to look up my AFD stats. When I put in my username it comes up with an error message saying no AFDs found, User:Pawnkingthree may not exist. --Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pawnkingthree, you don't need to put in the User: prefix. here are your results as they show up for me. Primefac (talk) 00:54, 9 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)[reply]
Thanks for the link, I can see that ok. I actually didn't put in the User: prefix. Maybe you can't look up your own results?! --Pawnkingthree (talk) 01:10, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, mine show up perfectly fine. Maybe it was a hiccup in the system. Primefac (talk) 01:17, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Pawnkingthree, it was, sadly, a hiccup in the system, my apologies. I was testing some new code related to the error in an above section ("Minor bug in AfD stat tool", for posterity), and apparently that made the tool unable to find any votes. Sorry! Enterprisey (talk!) 02:24, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Sunday October 15: Wikipedia @ Open House New York / Weekend Photo Competition

Sunday October 15: Wikipedia @ Open House New York / Weekend Photo Competition

This event is the concluding "upload party" to the Wikipedia @ Open House New York Weekend photo scavenger hunt, and an accompanying Wikimedia Commons tutorial and multimedia hackathon,

Learn how to work with your photos to illustrate New York City articles!

Note that this is part of the larger Open House New York Weekend activities on Saturday and Sunday, when sites normally closed to the public are open for public visits and photography.

If you can, bring your camera/photos to the event, and a laptop if you'd like to engage in adding photos to articles. But this is not necessary.

For photos from last year's event, see the OHNY campaign 2016 on Wikimedia Commons.

  • Date: Sunday October 15
  • Time: 4:00 pm - 8:00 pm
  • Location: Ace Hotel New York. 20 West 29th Street, Manhattan.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 15:33, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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AFCH idea

I try to keep an eye on edits that people make to my approved AfC drafts, to see if I missed something or if AFCH could be improved. One I noticed was if there is more than a certain number of WikiProjects on the talk page, a banner shell is added. It would be nice if there were two or more WikiProjects selected, a shell is automatically created to wrap them. Thoughts? Kees08 (Talk) 20:55, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's a good idea and it's being tracked at https://github.com/WPAFC/afch-rewrite/issues/73. It shouldn't be that hard to code, but we don't have many maintainers for the AFCH script Enterprisey (talk!) 20:40, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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October 18: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Wednesday October 18, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 13:21, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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WiR CSD report

"For goodness sake! Learn the difference between pointing to a cat....."

Hey, thanks for that. Now, you can tell when an idea's good when people ask for enhancements to it! So.....

Firstly, it would be nice to sort the CSD candidates by type. If you look at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion#Subcategories, you can see the various sub-categories for each class of CSD. For example, probably the most common types of speedies of interest to WiR are Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as importance or significance not asserted for A7 and Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as spam for G11. There are other categories that would be nice to iterate over, such as Category:Expired proposed deletions and Category:BLP articles proposed for deletion.

Secondly, I notice the current report seems to print all articles with a positive score. While it's a good idea to print as much as possible to avoid anything getting missed, I think it would be worthwhile highlighting anything that gets above the threshold score (as defined by the top entry in User:AlexNewArtBot/[rule]).

How often are you planning to run it? When I said "every five minutes" that was more metaphorical; the thing about speedies is they can disappear at any time (the clue's in the name) so we need some compromise between over-taxing the bot and making sure it picks up articles under the immediate threat of deletion quicky enough. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:19, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ritchie333, for goodness sake! Learn the difference between pointing to a cat and putting a page in a cat!! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:54, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, when I point to a cat it tends to come over, purr a bit and try and curl up on my lap. Putting paper in a cat is a bad idea though, they'll just throw it up again. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:57, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, the report has reasons now, bolds scores above the threshold, and runs every 3 hours. I can also highlight A7's, if that would help? Enterprisey (talk!) 21:31, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well the one I just speedily moved to draft was a G4, but I don't see the harm in highlighting A7s with a positive score. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:21, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just had a look now. Astrid Joosten was tagged A7, which I declined because being a presenter on a national TV network is an indication of importance. However, it scored 0 on the report; the only clue that it might be relevant to WiR is the name. This kind of makes sense if you think about it, since if we're trying to write about something from a neutral and gender-agnostic point of view, and being a woman isn't directly relevant to her job, it probably won't hit any of the "trigger" words. Meanwhile, Kondho has a high score because there is a picture of a female Kondho in the infobox, and Heather Starlet has a positive score because of the word "she" (it also has "Lesbian psycho drama" but I don't think that's what WiR is really about). Also paging Rosiestep who's interested in the report's accuracy. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:59, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I've been looking at some of the recent reports and I don't think the current AlexNewArtBot-based rules are doing a good job at all. If an article is in the women writers category, for instance, like Astrid Joosten, it should be guaranteed to appear on the list, no questions asked. I don't have much free time for the next couple of days but I should be able to get an improved algorithm going after that. Enterprisey (talk!) 20:37, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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AFCH request

Per this post, would you mind removing the "blank this draft" option from the "decline as cv" setup? Or is this something that should properly be discussed? Primefac (talk) 13:45, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Primefac, do you want me to uncheck it by default or kill the option altogether? I'm leaning towards the first one myself. (And I thought we had a discussion already that supported the removal of the option, unless I remember wrong?) Enterprisey (talk!) 22:06, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think removing it entirely is fine. Drafts aren't indexed, and while {{afc cleared}} does mention copyright violations, the hassle of having to view the old version (based on the other conversation) is just more work than having a temporarily-visible copyright violation. Primefac (talk) 11:47, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Issues with XfD tool script

Hi, I've noticed that CfD and MfD votes don't show up on the "xfd-stats" tool. Could you look into that, please? Thanks! ToThAc (talk) 21:29, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ToThAc, I checked on both my username and your username, and I can find CfD and MfD votes. Which ones are missing? Enterprisey (talk!) 22:05, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it's the operating system that's the problem... I tried it on Windows 10 and Linux. ToThAc (talk) 20:30, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Did any errors show up in the console? Enterprisey (talk!) 21:32, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Halloween cheer!

Happy Halloween!

Hello Enterprisey:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
    – North America1000 15:29, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]



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WP:CLEAN

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