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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> See [[Cultural_depictions_of_Joan_of_Arc#Film]] [[User:Eggishorn|<span style="background-color:#FF7400; color:#FFFFFF;">Eggishorn</span>]] [[User talk:Eggishorn|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Eggishorn|(contrib)]] 17:37, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> See [[Cultural_depictions_of_Joan_of_Arc#Film]] [[User:Eggishorn|<span style="background-color:#FF7400; color:#FFFFFF;">Eggishorn</span>]] [[User talk:Eggishorn|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Eggishorn|(contrib)]] 17:37, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
::[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done''' [[User:Run n Fly|Run n Fly]] ([[User talk:Run n Fly|talk]]) 17:42, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
::[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done''' [[User:Run n Fly|Run n Fly]] ([[User talk:Run n Fly|talk]]) 17:42, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

== FA concerns ==

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the [[WP:FA?|featured article criteria]]. Some of my concerns are outlined below:

*There are citation needed tags from 2017
*Many sources used in the article have been added after its 2006 FAR. Considering the vast amount of literature written about this person, I am skeptical that all of these sources are of the highest quality. If someone is willing to help me check them, I can go into more detail below.
*References need to be standardised. Book sources either need to be in the footnotes or listed in the bibliography, not both.
*The sources in the "Further reading" section need to be evaluated and either incorporated as sources or possibly removed from the article.
*The "See also" section is bloated and needs to be trimmed.
*I'm surprised there isn't a Legacy section. Many of the "See also" links could be incorporated into that section.

If anyone is interested in bringing this back to FA standards, please indicate below and I will give a more detailed review. [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 21:21, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:21, 25 July 2021

Template:Vital article

Featured articleJoan of Arc is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on April 16, 2006.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
February 13, 2006Peer reviewReviewed
April 3, 2006Featured article candidatePromoted
August 31, 2006Featured article reviewKept
Current status: Featured article

interesting

An original radio play, 25 parts of 20 mn. About Joan's history, based on the authentic documents registered during her trial. On CD MP3. (French).

Duke Louis of Orleans, Duke of Orleans

That's just bad english. You'd say, " the King's brother, Louis, Duke of Orleans"

Blanket reverts again

I have been called to discuss my reverting of reverts on the talk page. May I remind the editor in question that this whole issue has been discussed before, here and that she should know that because even then she called for a discussion but then did not offer any substantive responses.

So read my point there. Str1977 (talk) 22:52, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The link you referred to consists of expressions of opinion unbacked by sources. It is the responsibility of editors who add material to give sources to back it. Please do so. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]
The link I gave represented the status quo of the discussion. You failed to provide any valid reasoning then, you fail to do so now, for changing said status quo. Str1977 (talk) 16:25, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2021

Under Art and Film there could also be added: The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc (1999) - film about her starring Milla Jovovich The heir of no hope 17:00, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: See Cultural_depictions_of_Joan_of_Arc#Film Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:37, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Run n Fly (talk) 17:42, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

FA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the featured article criteria. Some of my concerns are outlined below:

  • There are citation needed tags from 2017
  • Many sources used in the article have been added after its 2006 FAR. Considering the vast amount of literature written about this person, I am skeptical that all of these sources are of the highest quality. If someone is willing to help me check them, I can go into more detail below.
  • References need to be standardised. Book sources either need to be in the footnotes or listed in the bibliography, not both.
  • The sources in the "Further reading" section need to be evaluated and either incorporated as sources or possibly removed from the article.
  • The "See also" section is bloated and needs to be trimmed.
  • I'm surprised there isn't a Legacy section. Many of the "See also" links could be incorporated into that section.

If anyone is interested in bringing this back to FA standards, please indicate below and I will give a more detailed review. Z1720 (talk) 21:21, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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