Talk:Bubble Guppies

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More Links

This article hardly has any links at all. It needs more links, as well as sources. Atterion(Talk|Contribs) 18:06, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect List of Characters and Descriptions

The author of this article did a pretty good job of explaining what this show is all about - until I got to the list of characters and descriptions. There aren't citations or any indication at all as to where this information came from. I honestly think the author guessed or allowed person opinions to mar the integrity of the article. For example: Nonny is absolutely NOT voiced by Alan Tudyk (Noah Werner on ABC's Suburgatory). This is absolutely laughable! He IS, however, voiced by Eamon Pirruccello. There are many other major mistakes in this section, they are as follows:

1. The ages and birth dates are never revealed for any Bubble Guppy character. 2. None of the following actors have anything to do with the Bubble Guppies show: Alan Tudyk, Amy Poehler, Christina Applegate, Anna Farris, Nika Futterman, Katie Leigh, Katherine Soucie, Andrea Libman, Frank Welker (really?!?), Lenora Zann (said to be the voice of Bubble Puppy - who never talks, only barks...Zann is a female AND is Australian!), Jamie Watson, Danny Cooksey, and Mark DeCarlo. For the names of the voice actors, see: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0965404/fullcredits#cast 3. None of the Bubble Guppies have a crush on any of the other Bubble Guppies - they are preschoolers, and despite what some people may think, preschoolers don't often have crushes that young (especially when the author is guessing the ages of 4 and 5 For a more accurate description of the cast of characters, their personalities, and preferences, see the Nick Jr. site that introduces the characters: http://www.nickjr.com/bubble-guppies/about-bubble-guppies/meet-bubble-guppies-characters.html 4. Please quit making a fool of yourself by stating things as fact, when they are completely false, without citation, and absolutely never discussed in the show (such as the crushes). Michelleclem2012 (talk) 17:10, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 May 2012

Greetings. I am the Script Coordinator for the kids' TV show Bubble Guppies, and we at the show have noticed a number of errors on the show's Wikipedia page. I have several requests, but I'll start with a part of the first line, which currently reads: Bubble Guppies is an Canadian preschool comedy musical It should read: Bubble Guppies is an American preschool comedy musical

It's difficult to cite this directly, but the show is produced by Nickelodeon, which is an American company. Here's a New York Times article citing this: http://tv.nytimes.com/2011/01/24/arts/television/24guppies.html Here's a wikipedia article citing that Nickelodeon is American: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelodeon And lastly, I work here and am trying to make this edit because the creators of the show vouch that what's currently in the article is a mistake. Thank you!

Lucasmills223 (talk) 16:40, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Not done for now:I may make this change, but I wanted to ask for your opinion on another alternative. I don't see much to prove that it is American, but there is even less proof that it is Canadian. In addition, from what I get from the article, it appears that it appeared in Canada after it began airing in America. Would it work to say that "Bubble Guppies is a preschool comedy musical children's television series which airs in the United States and Canada. It was produced for Nickelodeon and created by Jonny Belt and Robert Scull."? Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:14, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 May 2012

Please change the following:

Bubble Guppies is a Canadian preschool comedy musical children's television series produced for Nickelodeon and created by Jonny Belt and Robert Scull.

to the following:

Bubble Guppies is an American preschool comedy musical children's television series produced for Nickelodeon and created by Jonny Belt and Robert Scull.

The show is produced by Nickelodeon in New York City. Nickelodeon is an American company. Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelodeon and: http://www.nickjr.com/bubble-guppies/ and: http://kidstvmovies.about.com/od/BubbleGuppies/fr/Review-For-Parents.htm

I am also the Script Coordinator of the show, and the creative and executive team works here in New York City.

Thank you!

Lucasmills223 (talk) 21:29, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

• Done Ryan Vesey Review me! 21:58, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 June 2012

I am highly offended that Wikipedia has that "Molly is probably Hispanic because of her skin color". I request that it be removed. Especially because it is not cited! Hispanics do not have a skin color. There are White, Black, Asian and many other types of Hispanics. Her skin color can also seem that she is black...middle eastern... native american... there is quite a list of what she can be.. judging on skin color. I am very disappointed that you are judging a cartoon characters ethnicity on her skin color. Impossible. Remove it please.

68.195.63.145 (talk) 14:03, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Done Thank you very much for pointing that out, I removed it. I'm going to remove other unsourced speculation on race as well. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:14, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 July 2012

I want to change mermaid-like (Which could mean a female mermaid) to merperson-like (which could mean a mermaid of any gender)

208.92.76.160 (talk) 20:41, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

 Done Rcsprinter (deliver) @ 10:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

"...a mermaid of any gender"? Really? You're just gonna leave that? 50.193.233.25 (talk) 21:19, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Characters

The bubble guppies are preschoolers, and they don't have crushes. Mollie, however does have a crush on Gill. The other crushes were made up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.251.25 (talk) 03:03, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Canadian?

If one of the seasons was produced by a Canadian company (let's assume it's true even though it seems to be unsourced here), then is the series properly described as "Canadian-American"? I tend to think, no, but perhaps I'm wrong. Discuss! JohnInDC (talk) 16:09, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't see why we can't put it in as Canadian-American Davebrayfb (talk) 18:09, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

• You can if you're able to provide reliable sources. Agent 86 (talk) 19:19, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Mr. Grouper's country song in the 2011 episode Have A Cow....

In the 2011 episode Have A Cow, Mr. Grouper sings a country-like sounding song, I guess the title is "sun up to sun down"....I was wondering if it was sung by any country artist or the voice actor who does Mr. Grouper's voice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.141.141.120 (talk) 00:28, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Mesmerizing

I first noticed this show when an 8-month old relative, with the attention span of a gnat, was riveted to the screen during any episode of Bubble Guppies, despite not understanding words, much less a plot. I found a WP:RS and inserted "In 2013, a New York Post cartoon critic facetiously suggests "subliminal messages" as a reason why children who are too young to understand words, much less the plot, are mesmerized by the show.http://nypost.com/2013/09/05/they-may-be-back-in-school-but-the-kids-are-in-charge-of-your-tv". This was rm with the explanation of being "snarky."

I find the current description banal, particularly considering the affect it has on tots. There are RS out there. Why not use them? Student7 (talk) 18:44, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Student7 Heya, I appreciate the humor in the blog post, but I don't think a cartoon critic is an expert in infant cognition that their suppositions, facetious or otherwise, should be included in an encyclopedia. I also don't think that facetiousness is typically included in encyclopedic prose. Either way, I argue that the content doesn't improve our understanding of the series. We don't know that children are actually mesmerized by the series, because the source used was being facetious. We don't know whether or not there are actual subliminal messages being used, because the source was being facetious. So what do we walk away with? A joke? Anyhow, I have noticed your 65,000 edits, so you've obviously been around the block, and I'm not willing to risk alienating a hard-working editor over something this trivial, and my position could also be wrong. If you prefer it back, I won't fight it, though I think if it were to exist it might come across more naturally in a Critical response section. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:23, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Fair engough. How about "In 2013, a New York Post cartoon critic pointed out that children who are too young to understand words, much less the plot, are mesmerized by the show.(ref)"? If you have seen tiny children watching this show, you'd have some comment yourself, believe me!

This does not appear to me to be a blog. I will use cite web, if approved.Student7 (talk) 13:48, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

I think my brain was up my ass when I wrote "blog post". :) I think your revision above is reasonable, and I will gladly step out of your way. Good discussion, and I hope I wasn't too much of a prick. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:15, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I think that your comments were pretty much on the mark. Several of my insertions were WP:OR/WP:SYNTH. Changed per agreement. Student7 (talk) 20:58, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2016

167.142.50.190 (talk) 21:19, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 21:37, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Ready to Rock

I heard that a live event was announced by Nickelodeon PR. I'm not sure if we can put this here. CriticismEdits (talk) 02:43, 23 December 2017 (UTC) CriticismEdits (talk) 02:43, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Revival

Yes, there is a blog that says there might be a new season. Yes, there is a group on Facebook that has a posting up from someone claiming to be a writer which they say confirms there is at least one episode completed.

1) A blog is a self-published source. It cannot be used as a source. If you'd like, I can point you to a blog which confirms the Queen of England is a half-human, half-alien "reptilian" from the Draco star system.

2) The blog -- which we cannot use -- does not say there will be a new season.

3) An anonymous group on Facebook is a self-published source. It cannot be used as a source. If you'd like, I can point you to a group on Facebook which claims taxes in the United States are optional -- you don't have to pay them.

4) The anonymous Facebook group -- which we cannot use -- shows an image (which I could make up to say Dora is reptilian who speaks German) which does not say what they say it says.

If you wish to add information about a revival -- whether possible, confirmed or underway -- you will need to find and provide a reliable source which says a revival is possible, confirmed or underway. If you are unsure if your source is reliable, ask here. If someone says your source is unreliable and you disagree, please discuss the issue here or at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard.

If, for some reason, you feel that you do not need to provide a source, you will need to build a consensus here to ignore WP:V, one of Wikipedia's core policies. (This is very unlikely to happen.) - SummerPhD^v2.0 00:49, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

I agree that we should include (sourced) information about reptilians in this article. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:16, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

I heard Bubble Guppies will be renewed for a 5th season! http://nickalive.blogspot.com/2019/03/report-nickelodeon-may-have-renewed.html BubbleGuppiesIsTheBest (talk) 20:28, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Please stop posting this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.204.118.229 (talk) 00:44, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, we know about the claim in someone's blog saying it might be renewed. As we've been discussing, you have an unreliable source that doesn't say what you think is says. Do you have anything to add or are we done here? - SummerPhD^v2.0 02:50, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Dude you told me to say this on talk? Are you crazy? (BubbleGuppiesIsTheBest) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BubbleGuppiesIsTheBest (talk • contribs) 17:40, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

No, I asked you to discuss the issue. Please read the rest of this section.

As explained above, you cannot use a blog as a source for this. Please see WP:SPS.

As explained above, the blog does not say there will be a new season.

To add that there will be a new season, you will need a source that is reliable and says there will be a new season. - SummerPhD^v2.0 04:16, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

You have my daughter Lauren Reichwald down as Ouma from Bubble Guppies she played the character Deema in the UK for 4 years please can you amend this and show her as the voice of the UK character Deema. Thank you

YOu have my daughter Lauren Reichwald down as Ouma from Bubble Guppies when in fact she play Deema. She was the UK voice over for this character from circa 2012 to 2015. Please can you amend this and put her under the right character reference.

Thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.104.46 (talk) 14:42, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

The ending date for Season 5

Please replace TBA with January 22, 2021. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:58B:4101:6E50:A1F4:47CD:72D4:28E1 (talk) 01:03, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

The Season 5 ending date is missing. The last aired episode for season 5 was - January 22, 2021

Review of Season 5 episodes available through Xfinity, Prime and Netflix show this date in the episode description for the last episode of Season 5. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:58B:4101:6E50:A1F4:47CD:72D4:28E1 (talk) 01:01, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2021

Molly should be the first character instead of Gil! 24.186.67.161 (talk) 19:12, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:31, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2021

Chickennuggetsandburgers (talk) 13:12, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. @Chickennuggetsandburgers Justiyaya 13:41, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2022

Mia's last name is misspelled. Please change Mia Lynn Banguan from season 6 episode 15 to Mia Lynn Bangunan from season 6 episode 15 Mialynnb (talk) 17:52, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 17:57, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done This very minor typographical error has been corrected. It was easy enough to confirm using a variety of sources that the last name of this voice actress is spelled Bangunan rather than Banguan, and this does not require a reliable source. General Ization ^Talk 19:09, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. Also Mia's first episode is Ninja Mountain Rescue which is Season 6 Episode 8. Please change Season 6 Episode 15 to Season 6 Episode 8. here is link to imdb for the episode for reference. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21300322/

Thanks again Mialynnb (talk) 19:34, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

@Mialynnb: Please enter a new request for this. This request has been closed, and we will need a different source for that. IMDB being user-edited, it is not a reliable source. General Ization ^Talk 19:39, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Mistakes

While proofreading this article I found I few things that confuse me.

1. At first the text says, "Then the Little Fish breaks the fourth wall...", Which suggests that the Little Fish is a singular person. Hence, the use of the word "breaks". But, Later in the paragraph I saw the phrase, "After the theme song, the Little Fish say the episode's name." Which suggest the Little Fish is multiple beings. Typo or intentional? SmoothJazzEd (talk) 13:16, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Series ending

Is season 6 the final season? I added a hidden note about the end date. Stays present until a year has passed after the episode premiered. Cwater1 (talk) 20:25, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

There is no requirement in Template:Infobox television that it stay "present" until a year has passed. That stems from a misreading of that the docs actually say. In fact, the reasoning for the 1 year thing is exactly the opposite - so that it doesn't stay "present" in perpetuity if there is no reliable source indicating that the show has been renewed. There is no such requirement for a reliable source indicating that it is cancelled. It is perfectly fine to indicate the last date of the season. If it gets picked up again, and a source indicates renewal, then change it back to "present" and note the source. ButlerBlog (talk) 18:38, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Also, I removed the efn about the gap - that's not necessary, and it also causes the infobox to show up in the maintenance category as being malformatted. The date gap is evident from the dates in the episode summary table. If further explanation is needed, do it in the prose of the article - the infobox param is just for the date only. ButlerBlog (talk) 18:40, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

There are other articles where the hidden note is available, because we don't want anyone adding a date for something that has an unreliable source attached for the "ending" or spreading misinformation. The claim about keeping the "end date" until a renewal/cancellation post-airing is stupid, IMO. It would give a reader the impression that it is over, when it actually isn't. I say we bring in @Magitroopa, as he might know a thing or two about this. BrickMaster02 (talk) 21:31, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument - although I think you and I might actually be referring to two different things in this instance, as I was not referring to the hidden note (i.e. HTML comment). Those are fine and are ignored by the maintenance category (as far as I'm aware). As for bringing in another editor, Magitroopa has participated discussions regarding Template:Infobox television as have I, so no problem there. The bottom line is this: We have maintenance categories in the television project for tracking certain common errors in formatting of the television infobox (such as Category:Pages using infobox television with nonstandard dates as is the case here). These are regularly patrolled to resolve these errors. To be clear, the error here is not specifically whether it's "present" or a date. If it were just one or the other would be fine as far as the maintenance category is concerned. The issue is the use of "show by date", the efn, or the combination of both that result in this article triggering that something is malformed. If you want to insist on putting the date to "present" - that's fine, because everything I've discussed above allows for that. But don't use {{show by date}} or {{efn}}. ButlerBlog (talk) 22:19, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Okay, makes sense. It can hard to tell sometimes when a show is cancelled or not. For the future, I guess the show by date is not always needed. When a year passes, we can change to ended unless a WP:RS is produced between July 2023 and July 2024. I see what are also saying, the efn isn't needed as the article explains the gap. Cwater1 (talk) 20:02, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

It might be helpful to point out that the purpose of an infobox is to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article. Anything that is in the infobox should already be noted (and more importantly, supported) in the body of the article. As for waiting a year, the key point per the docs is that a date in the |last_aired= param does not imply the series has been cancelled, rather that the program "last aired" on that date. Regardless, as I noted, my primary concern on this article is that it not continue to show up in the maintenance category - if it it's a date or "present" alone, that's fine. ButlerBlog (talk) 20:40, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

I see my mistake now. Cwater1 (talk) 02:17, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2023

Bubble Guppies is already cancelled. 24.46.59.173 (talk) 15:41, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:49, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

@ 2600:8805:B003:B00:FC06:BFF6:6D2A:3031 (talk) 21:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)