Talk:Carlos Santana
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Needs source
Either a source for this should be given, or it should be replaced in the article when the album appears:
- Santana plans to release his latest album All That I Am on September 13 2005, which will include guest artists Big Boi (of Outkast), Mary J. Blige, Black Eyed Peas, Los Lonely Boys, Sean Paul, Kirk Hammett (of Metallica), Khaled and Robert Randolph.
--Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 9 July 2005 09:10 (UTC)
would love to hear more about his border crossing
i am imagining some exciting story about being stuffed in the trunk of a car or a 20 mile walk in the desert.
i love this guy and his music, can't someone get the story? or maybe he had a regular tourist visa, which i have heard is very difficult for mexicans to get. i am not trying to bring out the racists, just the facts. go carlos! Clarksmom (talk) 09:17, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
What nationality?
Can someone supply proof that Santana's official Nationality is Mexican OR American? In the USA, for people with one parent having American citizenship and the other having citizenship in another country, upon turning 18 years of age, we were told that the United States no longer accepted dual citizenship and that we had to choose which one as adults. Israel was the one exception if the person is Jewish. Thus, in the USA I am American, but in Brazil I hold dual citizenship. I am hoping someone can wade through that legal crap and find out what passport he uses, which would be the final proof. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 10:31, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
- His official citizenship is whatever the US government and the Mexican government separately say it is. He was born in Mexico and became a US citizen by naturalization at age 18. That much is shown by article content. According to Mexican nationality law he didn't lose his Mexican citizenship on becoming naturalized in the US so he is still a Mexican citizen. He is also a US citizen by naturalization. So he is both by the laws of each country. According to "US State Department Services Dual Nationality" the US has no problems with dual nationality and apparently neither does Mexico.
- However, according to WP:OPENPARA, the lede should mention only the country of citizenship of a person when they became notable. Since Santana has resided in the US since he was 18 and all his notable accomplishment were as a US resident, only his American citizenship need be mentioned in the lede and he can be considered an American musician. In past versions of the article he was listed as either a Mexican musician or an American musician and people kept changing between the two. Keeping both in the lede is an attempt at a compromise and it IS factually correct. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:44, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
I changed his nationality to Mexican-American from "American of Mexican ancestry" which I think was misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.214.4 (talk) 01:17, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
- See WP:OPENPARA for what should be in lede. Ethnicity is generally not supposed to be there. Country of birth is also not generally in lede but that is a compromise from just saying American. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:21, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
Geraldo, the fact that he became a U.S. citizen does not mean that he gave up his Mexican citizenship. Country of residence is irrelevant. He did not stop being Mexican because he became a U.S. citizen. Also, in English, when you say that someone is of "X" descent, it implies that he was not born there, so it is misleading to say "of Mexican descent" in this case, as he was born in Mexico. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.214.4 (talk) 09:26, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- His Mexican citizenship is not relevent to his notable achievements. Also Mexican American as described in that article just means Americans of Mexican descent. I originally had Mexican and American, which is what you are trying to say, but that didn't stick either. WP:OPENPARA just says nationality when became notable, so American is what should go in article. Rest of article fills in details sufficiently. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:32, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- I put back Mexican and American as that is the correct way to express dual nationality. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:00, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Santana used the Gibson solid-body L6-s
Around 1975 (pre-PRS) Santana used the solid-body Gibson L6-S, and endorsed it in Gibson ads as his "rainbow." Designed by the late Bill Lawrence, the original L6-S had a rotary switch which provided all possible ways of wiring two pickups including the unusual out of phase series and out of phase parallel wirings (the reissue L6-S substituted various single-coil wirings of the individual pickups).
[1] Cyclecamper (talk) 03:55, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Awards
Added Kennedy Center Honors.Robertvincentswain (talk) 00:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
His entire name
I've discerned his full birth name from several sources (most notably, biography.com); Carlos Augusto Alves Santana should be listed in the article.
68.52.50.128 (talk) 19:36, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
- ^ Note the Wikipedia page for 'Gibson L6-S' mentions Carlos Santana and links to his page; that link should be bi-directional and the Carlos Santana page should mention and link to the L6-S.
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