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:Link to archived discussion: [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 157#Potentially an undisclosed paid editor account]]. --[[User:Drm310|Drm310]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:Drm310|talk]]) 20:49, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
:Link to archived discussion: [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 157#Potentially an undisclosed paid editor account]]. --[[User:Drm310|Drm310]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:Drm310|talk]]) 20:49, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

== [[Martin Luther King III]] ==

Hello,

A few weeks ago I added information about the Kielburgers' participation in Martin Luther King III's Realizing the Dream initiative. After adding it to MLK III's article, I added it to Marc Kielburger, where there was shorter and less informative language based upon a press release, but a comntributor Bilorv said it was too long – "undue weight" – and restored the previous version.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marc_Kielburger&diff=1206923206&oldid=1205607667] Since that was the accepted version, I put that here.

Now that version has been removed because it is based upon a press release.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Craig_Kielburger&diff=prev&oldid=1211042005] It seems then that there is some disageement about what the editorial standards should be. I agree with Dialectric that press releases should not be used as sources when mainstream media outlets have covered the situation in greater detail. Given the very public backing of the National Football League and Major League Baseball teams, and the fact that Craig Kielburger was interviewed, it seems relevant here.[[Special:Contributions/2601:547:1200:B3E0:D172:9A48:F805:5E52|2601:547:1200:B3E0:D172:9A48:F805:5E52]] ([[User talk:2601:547:1200:B3E0:D172:9A48:F805:5E52|talk]]) 01:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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Public Life

This article alludes to a libel suit against Saturday Night magazine, but there is no reference to the actual magazine or the content that triggered the suit. Isabel Vincent's original article should be a source at least, not just reports of his legal victory.

 Vincent, I. (1996). The most powerful 13-year-old in the world. (Free the Children founder Craig Kielburger). Saturday Night, 111(9), 40–50, 138.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.246.10.52 (talk) 21:11, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply] 


tone

"The fact that he organized the former group at the age of 12 made him famous as a young social activist of remarkable precociousness." that needs cleaned up. DesertSky85451 19:28, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This whole article reads like Kielburger's PR team wrote it. Why is there no Controversies section? The intertwined nature of the 'charities' with the private business interests gives off a very bad smell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.64.50.54 (talk) 12:53, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Claims of him being the youngest ever graduate of the York MBA program were cited by a Canadian Encyclopedia article, which, in turn, cites the wikipedia page. Removed as considered a poor citation. Barkman (talk) 16:02, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Original research

While Kielburger is quite probably notable enough for an article (assuming the claims in the article are true) it looks like he himself has created the article and has, not unreasonably for someone perhaps unfamiliar with Wikipedia, made claims that are original research and thus which fail verifiability. Mikker (...) 02:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've cleaned up the article, removed the boosterism and POV and added a couple references. -- Chabuk T • C ] 03:04, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nobel Peace Prize nomination

  • Free The Children's many accomplishments in the areas of education, alternative income, health care, water and sanitation provision and peacebuilding have earned three Nobel Peace Prize nominations, ...

Being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize is an honor, but it is not official or even prestigious. Any national legislator or about a third of the university professors in the world can make a nomination, and there have been as many as 140 some years. Nominators are requested to keep their nominations secret, so it's only those wishing publicity who make announcements, and more often it is impossible to verify. I see no reason to keep it. No offense to the subject, this is a general Nobel Peace Prize "nominees" issue. -Will Beback · · 09:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

many accomplishments?

Some of the "many accomplishments" of "free the children" should be described (with references if possible) rather than merely asserted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.255.243 (talk) 14:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Degrassi: The Next Generation Season 7 Episode 20 - Ladies Night

I've added this link to provide a ref, removing the citation need tag. I understand this is not a text-based ref, but you can watch the actual episode online. As I live in Canada, it is available, but I'm not sure if it can be seen outside of Canada. Maybe someone in another country can try the link and see if it works for them.CubBC (talk) 02:43, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 142.150.161.176, 18 May 2011

Under education section, there is no mention of Kielburger's attendance at U of T, or any honourary degrees he has received from that institution. Edit request:

Kielburger is set to receive an honorary degree at the University of Toronto convocation ceremonies in Spring 2011 in recognition of his extraordinary contributions to society along with other outstanding scholars, innovative thinkers, humanitarians, dedicated public servants and leading philanthropists. President David Naylor of the university said “These extraordinary people ─ public servants, social activists, philanthropists, researchers, teachers, writers, leaders - have asked difficult questions, offered new ways of looking at the world and made significant contributions to Canada and the world. They reflect the values and strengths of the University of Toronto and will be a tremendous inspiration to our graduating students.” Kielburger, who graduated from U of T in 2006, and his brother Marc will receive honorary doctor of laws degrees June 8 at 2 p.m. [1]


142.150.161.176 (talk) 14:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done, for the moment. The non-quote part of the addition "...recognition of his extraordinary contributions to society..." sounds like puffery. While we can Naylor's quotation, our own prose must be maintain a neutral, encyclopedic tone. Feel free to reword your submission and resubmit it. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 11:53, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Lanthier, Jennifer. "U of T to award honorary degrees to 15 outstanding individuals". News@UofT. Retrieved March 19, 2011.

How does a 12 year old start a business

The article is like an advertising piece. What I wrote IS REALLY JUST ASKING SOME QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE CAN ASK OR CONTRIBUTE TO. I provide examples and thought out information, that missing in the discussion, and that totally ignored on this marketed biography.

Why is editor Ground Zero (possible MARKETER/ PUBLIC RELATIONS) person deleting a discussion Question on A talk page. ITS A talk page. Only a coward deletes information on a discussion page. Why is Ground Zero censoring information on a TALK / DISCUSSION PAGE

This is the information that was deleted by Ground Zero.

What they are doing is very good and its a good aim. But why do we need to play SHEEP to the story his parents created.

hHow can a 12 year old create a business on their own. there is no acknowledgment. Are we tp belive that a 12 year old did this all by himself. Craig Kielburger's PARENTS started the business, and the BUSINESS they assisted him in starting while he was in university was a SOCIAL BUSINESS for their son.

Cant we ask ourselves how does a 12 year old goes about starting a business all by himself. A non profit organization is a business whatever way you want to look at it. Marketer/Public Relations person Ground Zero should know this.

What the media and everybody since the beginning want to ignore is that it might of been him wanting to do something about a cause, but its his WEALTHY PARENTS that that provided the push and organized the trips, and thats how he got started. Sorry but 12 year olds dont organize MONEY AND DRIVES and go on trips to other countries to disperse the stuff on their own.

If we follow the timeline...

By the time he was in the middle of High school his parents probably already this bisiness/ organization already thought out.

Implications of always a business since high school:

He probably never worked at regular job elsewhere because he bad his own business to go to. Throughout university he had a job at his business that his parents helped to create. Why cant we allowed ourselves to see the story as it really happened.

I dont know but i'm just guessing, the lawsuit against Saturday Night magazine...probably had something to do with their official "story".Starbwoy (talk) 21:47, 29 August 2013 (UTC)Starbwoy (talk) 22:51, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to add a section on Criticism.

I would like to ensure this section is not repeatedly deleted.

How can we protect the Criticism section without it being deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Odettekahn (talkcontribs) 14:47, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This article was affected by undisclosed paid editing. Please see WP:COIN § Potentially an undisclosed paid editor account for details. Feel free to remove anything from the article that is excessively promotional or improperly sourced. — Newslinger talk 06:27, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Link to archived discussion: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 157#Potentially an undisclosed paid editor account. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:49, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

A few weeks ago I added information about the Kielburgers' participation in Martin Luther King III's Realizing the Dream initiative. After adding it to MLK III's article, I added it to Marc Kielburger, where there was shorter and less informative language based upon a press release, but a comntributor Bilorv said it was too long – "undue weight" – and restored the previous version.[1] Since that was the accepted version, I put that here.

Now that version has been removed because it is based upon a press release.[2] It seems then that there is some disageement about what the editorial standards should be. I agree with Dialectric that press releases should not be used as sources when mainstream media outlets have covered the situation in greater detail. Given the very public backing of the National Football League and Major League Baseball teams, and the fact that Craig Kielburger was interviewed, it seems relevant here.2601:547:1200:B3E0:D172:9A48:F805:5E52 (talk) 01:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]