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RM, Death of Breonna Taylor → Shooting of Breonna Taylor, Moved, 23 May 2020, /Archive_1#Requested_move_23_May_2020
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Inaccurate lead revert

The recent, unexplained revert by KYLE5112 introduced multiple inaccuaracies:

The officers being white was removed. Longstanding text in the lead since Talk:Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor/Archive_3#Race_of_the_officers was that the officers being white is WP:DUE for the lead based on the weight of sources.
The no-knock warrant is overemphasized in the lead, when officials say they did a "knock and announce".[1]
It inaccurately states unqualified that Walker shot Mattingly. That is the officials' viewpoint. Walker said he fired a warning shot into the ground,[2] and ballistics reports did not say he was shot by Walker. ("The KSP report says 'due to limited markings of comparative value,' the 9-mm bullet that hit and exited Sgt. John Mattingly was neither 'identified nor eliminated as having been fired' from Walker’s gun."[3]) Walker's legal team cast doubt on the officials: "However, Romines said the evidence casts doubt on whether it was Walker's bullet that struck Mattingly in the left leg."[4]

—Bagumba (talk) 05:10, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@KYLE5112: EvergreenFir had reverted your previous edit‎ at 05:12, 28 October, but you essentially reverted back at 13:20, 28 October—without disucussion or consensus here—that the officers were white.—Bagumba (talk) 08:46, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There has been no support for the removal of "white". Per WP:NOCONSENSUS: In discussions of proposals to add, modify, or remove material in articles, a lack of consensus commonly results in retaining the version of the article as it was prior to the proposal or bold edit. It seems to have been restored a few days ago.[5]—Bagumba (talk) 17:25, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Racist remarks

I'm offended that they feel the need to emphasize the fact the officers are white. Why couldn't the just say officers? 2600:6C44:B7F:E791:C9F:1FE0:CFEE:56FD (talk) 17:10, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's considered due per Talk:Killing_of_Breonna_Taylor/Archive_3#Race_of_the_officers.—Bagumba (talk) 09:34, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable choice of phrasing

The article mentions that the officer fired shots that hit a neighbouring occupied house. They stated that he was reprimanded for endangering the white people in that home.

Did the law specify that the occupants must be white for the officers actions to have constituted misconduct?

I understand that it is relevant to specify the officers and the victims race given the context and the social perception of the killing. However I fail to see the relevance of the genetics of innocent and somewhat irrelevant people.

It seems to imply that the race of the neighbours had some sort of effect on the proceeding events.

RIP Breonna Taylor 49.196.44.131 (talk) 02:30, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a racial incident

The clarification of what race either party was, is irrelevant to this story. Until we stop making everything about race, we'll always will have racial problems. I suggest removing anything that has to do with race from this article. The incident involved incompetent officers that didn't correctly do their jobs. 184.6.13.178 (talk) 20:51, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many people do perceive this as a racial incident, and it's been extensively discussed as one. That's not the opinion of Wikipedia editors, it's supported by a number of the third-party references in the article. And here's one that's not in the article but could be added.^[1]

References

^ Dastagir, Alia E. (March 11, 2021). "Breonna Taylor has been gone a year. Why we need to talk more about the racial trauma of Black death". USA Today. Retrieved March 2, 2022.

— Mudwater^(Talk) 22:08, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead is still a bit unbalanced: "when three white police officers... forced entry"

I am foreseeing an issue with trying to describe the race(s) of the officers involved. The lead currently states that "three white police officers... forced entry" into the apartment. However, there were more officers than those three who were involved in the forced entry. For instance... how about the officer with the battering ram? Why is he (she?) not front and center in this list? According to an NYT source, there were around "eight or 10 officers". Why are they not all listed as being involved in the forced entry? Upon identifying them, must we also clarify their race? Ender and Peter 20:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Dastagir, Alia E. (March 11, 2021). "Breonna Taylor has been gone a year. Why we need to talk more about the racial trauma of Black death". USA Today. Retrieved March 2, 2022.

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