User talk:Hersfold

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Kshatriya page

Hi, The Kshatriya page is semi-protected. I have tried to contact the admin several times, but there has been no response to open the semi-protection. Can you please open the page for edits?

Thanks Hersfold! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.230.38.115 (talk • contribs)

I've unprotected the page mainly because no expiry date was set and it's been about a week now. However, please keep an eye on the edit warring, and if you get reverted, stop editing and discuss things on the talk page, and wait to edit the article until there's a consensus. If problems continue, the page may be reprotected. Thanks. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

86 IP nuisance

can you semiprotect Pakist. admin. kashmir page to avoid vandalism by an anonymous 86 ip vandal..this dynamic ip vandal was previously banned as user: Nangparbat [1]..i am posting this message here because you WERE monitoring that guy..Kashmircloud (talk) 21:47, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

"Monitoring," as in I'm blocking any incarnation of him as they get reported to me. I'm not actively watching any of the articles he frequents, as I really have no interest in those subjects, mainly due to the gobs of drama they produce. I'm not going to semi protect the article, however I have blocked all the IP addresses involved in recent edits for a week. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:01, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Apology

Please accept my sincere apology for edit warring on Extinct Kannada literature. As you can see on my user page, user:Fowler&fowler, it is not even remotely something I work on. However, I had been involved in a long RfC on Talk:Kannada literature page and we had all decided that we would not edit either Kannada literature or its related pages Extinct Kannada literature and Halmidi inscription, but rather let the arbitrator user:Abecedare come up with a choice of wording for the disputed paragraphs. (See for example user:Dineshkannambadi's edit here.) So I was surprised to discover a few days ago that both user:Dineshkannambadi and user:Sarvagnya started editing all three pages without and discussion on the talk pages. Regardless, I agree that I should not have been edit-warring. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:52, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

It's fine. Thank you for acknowledging what you did and being willing to improve upon it - most edit warring blocks turn into shouting contests between the blockee and administrators which get nowhere except for raising everyone's tempers. I do admit I was surprised to see you unblocked so early, but after reading your unblock message, I agree with it. Thanks again, and happy editing in the future. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually sir, this user who appears so well mannered on your talk page has a history of edit warring with the Karnataka work group in general. He mentions a RFC but does not bother to add what happened in the RFC. He had to bow out of the Rfc he started, with an apology to me, for trying to pin an allegation of "false citation" on to me. A communication he had had with another user, user:Aadal, and which was brought to light in the nick of time by another user showed that Fowler may have started the RFC with the intent of preventing the Kannada literature from going back to FAC (which had at that time failed its first nomination by me, the original author of the article). All this detail is in the RFC, somewhere in the bottom. When Fowler bowed out of the RFc, he had promised the mediator, Abecedare, that he would not come back to any article related to Kannada language, but as expected, he did. His intent towards Karnataka and Kannada language related articles goes even further back, when he had to exit another FAC of mine, with an "abstain" vote, after it became apparent that his original "objections" in the article FAC were not in the right spirit. This user needs to be watched carefully, and I hope you do that.thanks,Dineshkannambadi (talk) 01:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't especially care. If you have a problem with Fowler, my talk page is not the place to discuss it. I am not a part of dispute resolution, so I suggest you head back to that page and pick up where you left off if you still have issues with him. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:27, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

You are right.thanks, Dineshkannambadi (talk) 01:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for Azi Vista

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Azi Vista. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review.. Courtesy notification as I complete the DRV nom for the user. Eluchil404 (talk) 22:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the note - I don't think I'll comment unless it's necessary, as I think that was a pretty clear case. I'll keep an eye on it. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:51, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

nangparbat again..

See also Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Nangparbat

81.151.*.*

81.151.100.11 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
81.151.100.167 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
81.151.101.152 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
81.151.145.55 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
81.151.148.218 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
81.151.150.159 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
81.151.151.33 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

• 81.151.100.0/24 blocked for 2 weeks on 10 August 2008

i think this Nangparbat (talk · contribs) guy, is back..see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistan-administered_Kashmir&diff=237972231&oldid=237873266..very likely that he is the same guy who hates india..see [2] . please block him..he is bent upon vandalising with intolerance..Cityvalyu (talk) 18:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC) . See also http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northern_Areas&diff=237973053&oldid=237972908..Cityvalyu (talk) 18:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

now, this guy is going on a rampage on my talk page..see [3] . please block his ip range (or protect my talk page from such anonymous vandals) as soon as you come on line..Cityvalyu (talk) 19:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, his IP range is widely shared by most of the United Kingdom, and as you've seen he hops around rather a lot. A rangeblock wouldn't do much good and would block many innocent users. I'll block all the recently active IP addresses, but I'm afraid that's all I can do aside from semi-protect your user talk page if you'd like. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

thanks for your prompt response..regarding undoing your edit, WHY WOULD I DO THAT!! i am bugged by anonymous vandals..he will return in some other form soon..i am pleased by your willingness to protect my talk page..so please do semi-protect my user talk page for atleast 1 month!!!..thanks in advance..Cityvalyu (talk)

Thanks: Take a look at [4] and his contribs too. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:54, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Just blocked him. Apparently he intends to file a report about my "abuse", and had the courtesy to inform me on my talk page. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

semiprotect- blocking is inefficient since he hops: now he has shifted to the 86.ip series..but his narrow range of edits focussed on pakistan kashmir and anti india slant means he is the same old guy in a new avatar..see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.153.129.194

semiprotect those articles for atleast one week besides protecting the talk pages of me / anyone who reverts his vandalism (example: user:nichalp (if he prefers so))..Cityvalyu (talk) 20:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Nichalp can do that himself if he wants, he's also an admin. I will be semi-protecting the articles he's being extremely disruptive on, however. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

thanks ..again amazed by your promptness..Cityvalyu (talk) 20:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

<reindent>Semi-protection is needed for those pages to prevent any further conflict. I wont protect my talk page, would prefer to talk to the IP if he chooses to discuss. I guess he is misguided and unaware of NPOV policies and the great PoK deletion dance last week. =Nichalp «Talk»= 20:11, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome to try, but attempts have been made to talk with him before. Unfortunately, his IP hopping makes it very difficult to hold a discussion in one place. I'm filing a report on ANI requesting review of my actions - I've semi-protected three articles so far and will be keeping an eye on RC for any more abuse. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:15, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

this guy (nangparbat) talks without any commitment.absolute waste of our time and energy..he is not ignorant..he does these "ON PURPOSE"..I found this post by user : s3000 on many talk pages about talking to him.. QUOTE START " I seem to have reached an understanding with our IP friend and he's agreed to refrain from editing. I'm not sure how sincere he is, only time will tell. Since you were one of us directly involved in this mess, I just felt you should know this milestone. Let us just put that episode behind and let's move on. Thanks and have a good day.  S3000  ☎ " QUOTE ENDS..Now we know what he did after that ..SO, NO USE Talking to him..Cityvalyu (talk) 20:27, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

dont think you should be qouting a sock puppet master s3000 hes banned lol 86.154.151.176 (talk) 20:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Welcome - unfortunately he's hopping around faster than usual right now, so it's like playing whack-a-mole at a carnival. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

IP hoping is also called dynamic ip understand internet connections or shall i explain 86.154.151.176 (talk) 20:27, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I've taken a look at the IP addresses you're using, and they shouldn't be switching anywhere near as often as they are. You're doing something to force them to switch, and in any event, asking you to stop once should have been enough. You are not welcome on this talk page. The only reason I am not blocking you again is so that Nichalp can have a chance to talk with you. Post on his talk page. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Well i have to do this for getting my comments onto talk pages since you have taken on the staring role of deleting user comments 86.154.151.176 (talk) 20:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

As I said on Nichalp's talk page, I am allowing you to edit his talk page and your own. Anything else, from this point forward, and I'm reverting it. Either that, or I block you for block evasion again. That work? Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:SSP

Just to remind you that when you concluded a case, use {{Sspa}} to tag it as closed so that the bot can archive. Otherwise it will keep sitting on the main page until someone adds that template. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 19:49, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow! Great going

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Vandals and POV-warriors beware Hersfold is watching you! --KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 15:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Heh - thanks. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:46, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Dammage

Hi your obviously a very good wikipedia moderator but i just wondered why my page dammage got deleted when it was about my friends band?

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by lfcaron8 (talk • contribs)

It was deleted because your friend's band isn't what we consider to be notable. In order for an article to be written about someone, we require that there be at least two reliable, third-party sources to verify any information added, and/or they meet one of the criteria listed at WP:MUSIC (and whatever fact allows them to meet that is similarly backed up with a source). Another way to look at it is, would you be likely to find your friend's band in the Encyclopedia Brittanica? If the answer is no, they probably don't belong here either. Take a look though the pages I linked here, and they should answer most of your questions. If you still have some, though, please feel free to let me know. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:16, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Puerto Rico Highway 124

Hiya mate. I didn't intend to tag for speedy deletion. I didn't realise twinkle doesnt give you the are you sure option when you select an option for speedy. I soon noticed that the article probably should have been PROD'd instead. Do you agree? Seddσn ^{talk Editor Review} 21:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Eh - it was pretty darn close to an A1. If anyone objects to it, I'll treat it as a PROD and restore it - same deal if the author recreates it. But yeah, do be careful with Twinkle, because it assumes you click the correct option the first time. I screwed up more than one nomination before I was allowed to just delete them. Thanks for letting me know. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:22, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Restore

Hello! I am not familiar with Wikipedia in English because I was testing the script FastButtons and I have the intention to import it to Wikipedia in Portuguese. Could I restrue the page and its history. Thank you. HyperBroad (talk) 21:37, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! --HyperBroad (talk) 21:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Copy-paste

Please note that the long episode-by-episode plot posted on the Kasamh Se article is copy-pasted from this website. Cheers. --KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 15:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Goddammit, I've gotten rid of that three times now. Thanks, for some reason I'd removed it from my watchlist. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Restoring 3 images

I've restored the following images: Image:Doraquest LA oral gel.png, Image:Carprodyl Palatable Tablets - Agrovet Market Animal Health.png & Image:Doramec L.A. Injectable Solution.png. Permission was received a the OTRS desk to use these images. Links to the tickets have been included on each image's page. Thanks for keeping an eye on copyright violations. These kinds of situations are the vast minority. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 21:57, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure, thanks for letting me know. I'll take those off my watchlist. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:42, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

i have a doubt ..please check

Please have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.156.214.251 this is very similar to banned nangparbat.

He either constantly tampers with Kashmir related articles or he seems to incite other users (example:PAHARISAHIB) to repeat their make unilateral unbalanced edits (making them puppets to his opinion)..Both are not respecting consensus "status quo" and constantly try to reinsert their (unbalanced) point of view..i am unable to stop them..so, i am requesting you to please check both of them..Kashmircloud (talk) 23:04, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

They are not unbalanced (how about a diff?). I am no-ones puppet, what are you trying to imply? I know that the 117 ips are yours (e.g. 117.193.129.137 and 117.193.32.151) Pahari Sahib 23:34, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

If you both wouldn't mind, I am trying to separate myself from this now, as I think I've gone a little overboard in a few cases, and I am getting tired of having my talk page being turned into a shouting contest between people. If you have evidence to support your claims of sockpuppetry, please try to discuss with the other user or file a report at WP:SSP. Thanks. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

no problem hersfold, i wont bother you on that user: nangparbat sock puppet any more..Anyway, i thank you for help to identify vandalism and sock puppets till now.Kashmircloud (talk) 23:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Thinking hats

Any idea on what is more constructive than "constantly fucking up our site"? 78.148.184.103 (talk) 02:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually editing articles to, say, add encyclopedic content would be a good start. I'm sure you're smart enough to poke around and find something to do. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll try. Thx. 78.148.184.103 (talk) 02:53, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Mrchris

Hey could you help me I think Mrchris meant to create Mrchris/Kilkenny Core/Geography of County Kilkenny/data, Mrchris/Kilkenny Core/Geography of County Kilkenny/todo, and Mrchris/Kilkenny Core/Geography of County Kilkenny/checklist in his user space but he put them in main article space. Thanks. Whispering 03:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks like they've all been fixed. Sorry I took so long responding, your message came in the middle of a string of severe vandalism and I forgot about it until this morning. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

CREEP

I support your efforts to battle CREEP, and would be happy to help. I have thought that a solution might be a Policy & guideline project, where experienced editors could be watchdogs and resources. Cheers! --Kevin Murray (talk) 06:59, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

That's sort of what this is, a project to take our existing policies and hack them down, counting on the experience of editors to know what is important enough to keep, what can be reworded, and what is redundant and can be removed. If that's not quite what you're aiming for, then I'm not certain what you're getting at. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes! --Kevin Murray (talk) 02:42, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Unblock Request

Sorry to trouble you, but can you just clarify the outcome of my unblock request as the DENY outcome doesn't seem to correlate with your message, although I may be misinterpreting it? I appreciate that I'm not in effect asking for the IP block to be lifted, so the outcome I guess should be deny, as long as logged in users can continue to contribute. I'm operating from a different location at this time so I can't say whether it works or not. Thanks Thedarxide (talk) 17:39, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem - the reason I "declined" it was because it seemed the block wasn't affecting you any more. Since autoblocks are placed by the software to prevent blocked users from circumventing their blocks, I'd rather not remove it unless it's necessary. As far as I know, you're the only one who has expressed difficulty editing due to that autoblock. If you go back to your earlier location and the autoblock is affecting you again, we can remove it at that time. Theoretically the thing should expire in 24 hours anyway, provided that user doesn't keep logging in, so it will probably lift itself eventually. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Bruce Gillespie

I see that the decison regarding the deletion of the "Bruce Gillespie" page has been decided as "keep". Can I remove the delection discussion info box now? --Perry Middlemiss (talk) 00:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Whoops. Sorry about that, the script I used should have done that, and said it had. I've removed it now, but thanks for the heads up. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem and thanks. Just wanted to make sure I was doing the right thing. --Perry Middlemiss (talk) 00:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your quick response to my Helpme question. Dzhugashvili (talk) 16:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Quite welcome. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:21, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Protecting CSD templates

I noticed you've gone and protected a whole bunch of CSD templates. While I agree that they likely don't need to be randomly edited, previous attempts have been removed citing "previous consensus". So, I'm just letting you what's happened previously in this. Cheers. lifebaka++ 19:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I know. I discussed it on IRC before doing it (since MZMcBride has previously been the one pointing out the old consensus), and was shown to some WT:CSD archive. I really don't see how that discussion made any sense, though, and it wasn't really clear that any consensus had been made there. I'm going to just be bold and protect them all, and hope that we can get a change in "consensus" if anyone doesn't like it. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:17, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

P.S. - This is not a "per IRC" action; most everyone I spoke to had no particularly strong opinions on this. It's all my own doing. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:17, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to register my disagreement with preemptive protection in general and these actions in particular. Little edits always need to be made now and then. Haukur (talk) 21:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I know - I made one such little edit just today: [5]. However, I feel that most editors don't have much need to edit these, and the sparse history indicates that not even administrators have much need to edit these on a regular basis. Other deletion templates, including {{prod}}, {{dated prod}}, and {{afd}}, are all fully protected and have been for some years. It makes little sense to hold speedy deletion templates to a different standard, when often they can be just as controversial.

That's just why I did it - if you'd like, I'm open to discussing this on a more open forum such as WP:AN. But I'd rather not undo it unless there is a clearly established consensus to do so. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:12, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

You protected a lot of templates that have never been vandalized. And I don't think the risk from vandalism is really particularly high even if some were to occur - those templates are mostly found on pages that are very poor and about to be deleted. Subtle vandalism of the afd or prod templates would be potentially hard to clean up since these templates are substed. That's not the case with the speedy templates. I just don't think it's obvious that they should be "held to the same standard", to borrow your wording. Haukur (talk) 22:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll open a post on AN about this then; I think there is a case for full protection, and I think we'd be remiss not to at least have move protection up, especially with certain page-move vandals running around. I'll let you know when it's posted. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. Haukur (talk) 22:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I was going to let this go but I feel the last two comments at AN maybe tilted the discussion in favor of undoing the protection. What do you think? Haukur (talk) 19:31, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

On the town reference in MOTTO

Actually i am, glad you rejected my motto for Wikipedia, Wikipedia...

Earlier in the year, the motto noms and days were getting pretty close together like they do and i did something i probably shouldn't, but what's done is done, in that i added the motto which had a low consensus, but altered the links after. Now i'm feeling guilty if that goes up again. Simply south (talk) 20:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Slightly confused about what you're referring to - I've closed and relisted a couple dozen discussions today so far. Which one are you talking about? Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

The motto here i suggested and approved in July - look at the 18th. :( Simply south (talk) 20:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah. Well, yes, it's a good thing it got rejected then. Please be more careful about that in the future. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:11, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

And what's worse is that it was a motto i suggested in the first place. Sorry for the long edit summary Simply south (talk) 20:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Recently

Separately, no approving of mottos less than two weeks old i thought. Simply south (talk) 20:58, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

No, mottos can be approved or rejected earlier per WP:SNOW if they're an obvious close. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Great minds…

…think alike – iridescent 20:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd just noticed that. "Wait a second... this is already protected...." :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

/* new section */

		The Template Barnstar
		Not as good as cash or money (I can't write barnstars that are all that funny) Xavexgoem (talk) 00:48, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Yay, thanks. And I still chuckled. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:51, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Hot dog

Nope, it was me wrong-clicking and then edit conflicting. I agree with you. Semi makes sense. I was going to revert myself and I saw you covered it. Thanks! TravellingCari 03:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, cool, just thought I'd check. Thanks. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 04:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank You!

Hello Hersfold, this is Survir. I really appreciate that you took out your time to take a look at the bad content of an Indian television serial page Kasamh Se. Thank you for your help. Now I totally agree with you that the plot section should not be that large. Believe me I tried to fix the plots of many of the television series, but I guess some people have too much time to just write everything they see in each of the episodes. That is why I believe that we should leave the original plot or tie into the original plot as the story progresses. Oh well, I did try to fix the content to save some space in the page of Kasamh Se, but I feel bad when I come back the next day and it is destroyed. Anyway, thank you for your help. Your new wiki friend Survir ^(talk) 20:57, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

The plot can certainly be updated as needed - this is a wiki, after all - but it should stay within the length of a paragraph or two according to WP:PLOT, focusing on the main premise of the series and not on minute details. In reality, I don't care too much what is in the plot summary, I just don't want to see it explode into a raging monster like it was previously. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 04:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

thank you very much. see you next time. MakesintoJp (talk) 04:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Kasamh Se

Hi Hersfold I wanted to ask you if you had a problem with the Kasamh Se plot. I noticed that you had edited it again. Did you have a problem with it? Honeygirl111 (talk) 15:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

It just needs to be cleaned up a bit and copyedited, is all. The length looks fine, and I can't really speak to the content any, not having ever seen this. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Kurt timeline

Just a small clarification to the timeline.

• The subpage was made at 02:58, September 20, 2008 (UTC) by MBisanz. Half of the subpage was moved back here by User:Rx StrangeLove at 13:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC) -12 1/2 hours later. The other half was moved back at 16:01, September 20, 2008 (UTC) by JayHank - 2 1/2 hours after RxS.
  

I was just trying to keep the conversation in one place, and only followed RxS because he posted a rationale for his move, but I couldn't find one from MBisanz, though I assume it was just general concern about length and volume of posts. --JayHenry (talk) 18:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Ohh, ok. Thanks for that, please feel free to correct me on ANI. Yes, the main reason for the move to the subpage was the length - it was getting next to impossible to post anywhere on ANI for the edit conflicts. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Diligence!

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For your constant plugging away at that code! I'm sure when you finally got it, it felt great. NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 18:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:05, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Our GA/Shrek friend is back

79.97.111.90 (I've updated your vandal watch page as required.) ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 19:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on it. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Cheers :) ~~ [Jam]^[talk] 21:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Rollbank

thanks, Tom B (talk) 21:26, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Men's Fiction, aka Lad Lit

Hi Hersfold,

Wondering why you deleted the Men's Fiction page, otherwise known as Lad Lit. Any reason? It was short but a good start. I'm keen on restoring it. Any reason why I shouldn't?

Eugenepr (talk) 22:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC) Thanks, -eugenepr

I'm not entirely sure what page you're referring to, as I don't recall deleting such a page and your only contribution to the site has been to my talk page. There is a Lad lit which was deleted through a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lad lit, so I'd suggest you read that. I wasn't involved with that in any way, however. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

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Socks

I'm trying to get more familiar with socking (and am developing a headache as I attempt to learn what gets reported where and when). I noticed you blocked Ear Witt as one of the many socks of Tile join. I spotted him apparently using the accounts Er Witt[6] and Err Witt [7]. Neither account is blocked as of the time of this message - telling you is obviously one way to make sure an admin sees them, but otherwise where would have been the correct place to report a non-blocked account of a prolific banned sockpuppeteer? ANI? Guidance for the future appreciated - thanks in advance. Karenjc 09:08, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Blatant sockpuppets like these can generally be reported at WP:AIV for immediate blocking. This is limited to obvious similarities in name like with Tile join/Eir Witt here, or two accounts doing the exact same thing one after the other that have done nothing else. If it's not blatantly obvious, but you suspect there may be a relation between two accounts, you should file a report at WP:SSP for further investigation. In certain very specific cases, a request for checkuser can be filed, however this is generally done as a last resort only and they require some strong evidence that the CU tool is in fact needed. ANI generally should not be used for sockpuppet cases, as that tends to up the drama level significantly as the accused sockpuppeter finds out and goes ballistic in front if everyone. Filing through one of the pages I've listed provides us with an easy page to reference to when making the block. I have blocked the two accounts you just named, by the way. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:58, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that's much clearer :) Karenjc 21:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Popular Sovereignty

Hi The article on Popular Sovereignty looks like it has been vandalized. Being new to wikihow, I am not sure on how to handle this. Would you mind explaining to me?

Honeygirl111 (talk) 15:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

It looks like it's been fixed already. In the future, you can revert such edits yourself - that link explains several ways how to do so. You can also use some other tools, such as navigational popups, Twinkle (or TW), VandalProof (or VP), and Huggle (or HG), among others. Each of those pages explains how to get these tools and how to use them. Hope this helps. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:05, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't see any other bad things the user has done, but it is possible that the user did vandalize more around wikipedia. Sorry I could not help you with this. I am new to wikipedia and am learning my way around.

Honeygirl111 (talk) 20:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for unblocking me. For a second there I thought I had done something wrong! Thanks again. Mpvide65 (talk) 23:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome and the links, Brett. I've been looking for several of those pages (in the "Get Started" box) for a while now! Murphy2010 (talk) 05:22, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey

I know that you think my the fandango page is just a bunch of garbage, but at least let me finish it. And if you have any advice on how to make it look better, cause there is a basis for this story. The legends of the Michigan Dogman and Wisconsin Werewolves give credit to this legend. The Ottawa people of Michigan and the other tribes that share the lands of Wisconsin and Michigan, like the Winnebago (the Ho Chunk people who told us this legend are a section of this tribe), Sauk, Fox, Black Hawk, and so on. This is an actual legend. The Natives told the settlers of a Spirit that wandered the woods and made people vanish. So if you're gonna delete it, fine. Go ahead and delete it. But at least let me finish my little project. thanks CampMythmaker (talk) 06:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

At this point it's not up to me if it gets deleted or not - it's determined by community consensus. If you can substantially improve the article according to our guidelines (which include, but are not limited to, notability, original research, reliable sources, and verifiability) then you may be able to convince the community to keep the article. Right now, however, it violates several policies, specifically the ones I named, and should be deleted. If you have any more questions, please let me know. The discussion will end on September 28th, at which time another administrator (not myself or anyone who has commented in the discussion already) will close it and determine what the consensus was. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 14:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people who died before the age of 30 (2nd nomination)

It appears obvious now that the page List of people who died before the age of 30 is headed to deletion. I support its deletion myself. But this has given me an idea. Do you think it would make sense to have a set of categories called "Age x deaths," all in a parent category called "Deaths by age?" That seems like a better idea. This way, there would be no worry where to draw the line as to what age is "significant" as an age of death, and all ages people live to can possibly be included. There would be no need for one person to create all these categories in one day - they could be built gradually over time. We already have categories like 1949 deaths. Why can't we do the same with age? Sebwite (talk) 22:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

That's possible, I think, and we should be able to set up infoboxes to handle it automatically with {{age}}. Good idea! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)