User talk:Just Step Sideways

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About deletion nomination of an image

Regarding a deletion

Sir , this file is not a copyright violation . I have created the image and i am the owner of this particular image . I have uploaded this image in order to enrich the article with latest details . I will be very grateful to you if you pass this image as perfect . Please help me out . I have all the right to publish this image :) The image is being used on the page -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivam_Patil}

Yu have used a publicity photo of the actor (which will be copyrighted) and also text from the Times of India (which will also be copyrighted). The copyright remains with the original creators in this case - see derivative works for details. Black Kite (talk) 18:43, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What he said. and anyway, this is under discussion at Commons so I don't see why it needs to also be discussed on my talk page. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

YGM

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:15, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Adminship?

It's been three years. I wonder if I should run again. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:49, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's been so long I am having trouble remembering why the very thought of it causes me to recoil in horror, so that's something I suppose. I've just gotten off work and am ready to enjoy the holiday weekend, so it may be a few days before I construct a more coherent and thorough reply to this. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:36, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely no rush. I'm still replying to posts from January on my talk page, so even a short reply so promptly puts you far ahead of me. ;-) Enjoy the holiday. --MZMcBride (talk) 03:20, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Trust me, big guy, once you become an admin, you will have never have any trouble remembering why the thought of it makes you recoil in horror, he said encouragingly. ;) Personally, I would very much welcome you getting the mop, though, and although my record on this is obviously far from outstanding, considering the only person I have recently nominated for adminship, User:History2007, has retired, I would be happy to support your run, if you think that would help of course. But, all joking aside, yeah, I would very much welcome seeing you get the mop, and I do think you are more than qualifiedJohn Carter (talk) 15:52, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To use a cliché: I thought he was one already :) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:17, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He was, then he wasn't, then he was again, then not again. An unusual case to be sure, possibly completely unique, I certainly can't recall anyone who had been an admin twice getting the mop a third time. It has been a while and the community has seemed a bit more forgiving (perhaps even a little too forgiving in one or two cases) of late so I'd say there's a decent chance here but I don't think it could happen without a nomination statement that is a full accounting of what went wrong before and a clear statement of what will not be happening again should the RFA succeed. An awful lot of folks who participated in Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/MZMcBride 4 are not around anymore, but WPs institutional memory is such that a fair number of users will, like me, remember there were problems in the past even if they don't instantly remember exactly what they were. So getting out in front of that and owning past mistakes from the get go is probably the only way that RFA number 5 could succeed. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:52, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate it. I think the relatively recent indefinite blocks will be more of an issue than anything else, but... who knows. I've tentatively agreed to run again on October 1. --MZMcBride (talk) 16:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article Feedback Tool update

Hey Beeblebrox. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.

We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.

Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 21:54, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Typo on your user page

It's "Antandrus." best regards, —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 05:27, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

doh. thanks for spotting that,

Fixed. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:58, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Time for a drink

Beeblebrox, thanks again for the RFA nom. That went quite well in the end... Singularity42 (talk) 20:25, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Truly, it was my pleasure. You sure sailed through a lot easier than i did in either of my RFAs. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:58, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

You've been mentioned here. Gird your loins. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:49, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This should be amusing. Beeblebrox (talk) 14:46, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)Agreed. ArbCom cases are filed if you so much as sneeze these days. :-P17:35, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

"Decisive Victory" discussion

Hello. I found article about Normandy Landings some time ago, it said "Decisive Allied Victory", I went on 2nd battle of Kharkov and here is just "Axis Victory". With same statements used to say Decisive Allied, in Kharkov it was decisive for Axis. I can bring several reasons: In Kharkov, Axis powers had well planned military action which was succesfull, they had less strenght and also still less casualties. I wrote Decisive axis but someone reverted it with reason of "Huggle". In Normandy, then I removed decisive and someone reverted with Vandalism reason. Seems here is bias of pro-allied ideology? To fix this, we must make Neutral point of view and remove decisive from all battle victories. I started discussion here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Normandy_landings

Regards --Obitauri (talk) 10:12, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Starting a discussion was definently the right move. The mistake you are making is in saying if it says "decisisve" in one article we 'have to say it in another article that you believe is about a similar victory. Our own observations, right or wrong, count for nothing here. What counts is what the sources say. So, find some sources that back your position, and you've got yourself a logical argument. Just be careful not to slip back into edit warring. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:56, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hamara Bajaj

The article that you moved from incubator was probably in incubator because the film is on hold. I have added two links at the end which say so. I am not yet sure of its status though. The latest link in it is of April 2013. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 13:03, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't real sure what was going on, my own search yielded mostly results pertaining to the motor scooter the film is apparently named after. And now it seems they might be having some trouble because of that. I wonder if this title shouldn't actually be an article about the scooter, the articles i saw suggested it is or at least was an icon/cultural touchstone in India. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:59, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thats quite likely to happen. The scooter was of Bajaj Auto and their old like Bajaj Chetak and Bajaj Super were advertised in late 1980s by the tag line Hamara Bajaj (Our Bajaj). The film is using that catchphrase where the lead character's surname is also Bajaj. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 16:44, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BLP exemption to WP:3RR

Beeblebrox - I think User:Thisgalladumc edits appropriately fall under the BLP exemption to 3RR. Could you please consider removing this warning?--v/r - T P 18:20, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As you are obviously perfectly aware, not everyone agrees that BLP concerns excuse any and all otherwise unacceptable behavior. There was absolutely no attempt at discussion despite a week of edit warring. That is not ok and I'm not going to pretend it is. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:31, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Could you please remove the block? As i have provided extra specific references for the edit as shown here.Fotoriety (talk) 00:52, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New proposal regarding Wer900 at AN/I

In an effort to resolve the discussion at AN/I regarding Wer900, I have offered a new proposal at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Alternative proposal: Restriction on venues for complaints. Since you have weighed in on previous proposals regarding this user, I am notifying you of the new one in case you wish to opine. Regards, alanyst 18:45, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Last I heard Wer and Count Iblis were concocting an arbcom case "against" me and some other horrible people. Should be the funniest thing to come down the pike in a long while, and when that farce-in-the-making blows up in their faces it might help resolve this mess, but unfortunately I don't think ANI is doing any good at this point. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:44, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There needs to an meta RfC about WP:AN/I proposing that closures/unclosures should only be done by admins. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would be more inclined to phrase in terms of closing or re-openng discussions of any kind that could result in a user being blocked or otherwise sanctioned. Admins are tasked with evaluating when it is time to block a user. The underlying principle, which we do use elsewhwere, being that nobody should be saying no to a request if they are not able to reply with a yes. But yeah, close/re-open wars are pretty lame, which is why I am just keeping my distance from all that. I don't much care who closes it anyway, it seems clear Wer has no intention of toning down his attacks and that certain segements of the community think it is fine to deliberately antagonize a user without ever actually trying to resolve issues you have with them, so long as that user is an admin. I mean you know what it's like, living this high life of admin luxury. The free drinks in the admin's lounge, the endless banquets, the gold-plated Caddilacs, and of course the feeling of godlike power that comes from having a few extra buttons to use on a website... Beeblebrox (talk) 23:12, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You forgot to mention the business class travel and 5-star hotel accommodation for Wikimania... Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:00, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RfC about "oppose" comments

I am contacting every editor who commented at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Questions about "oppose" comments in WP:RFC/Us, in case you might wish to participate in the RfC at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Clarification of the rules. Thank you. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:31, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding edit count

Hi Beeblebrox. You denied my request at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Reviewer saying that I have "just over 200 edits to articles". How do you determine how many edits an user has made? I thought I had 1106 edits to articles per X!'s Edit Counter. Thanks. Ajax F¡ore_talk 20:55, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I used the "wiichecker" link, which automatically analyzes a users last 500 edits. You have to tell it to analyze all of them for totals, which I thought I had done in your case but apparently I did not. My apologies, I will re-evaluate your request. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:00, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification and thanks for introducing me to wiichecker, it's a very useful tool. Ajax F¡ore_talk 21:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

iBan

Suppose I want to apply for WP:MILLION recognition. I have several articles at User:TonyTheTiger/QAviews, that are eligible for some level of recognition. Should I approach a third party to nominate them? Can he award any of these articles (so far, he has only awarded Michelle Obama).--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:28, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

when I informed you of the ban I added a link to WP:IBAN. Here is the entire text of that policy section in case you missed it

The purpose of an interaction ban is to stop a conflict between two or more editors that cannot be otherwise resolved from getting out of hand and disrupting the work of others. Although the editors are generally allowed to edit the same pages or discussions as long as they avoid each other, they are banned from interacting with each other in any way.[1] For example, if editor X is banned from interacting with editor Y, editor X is not permitted to: edit editor Y's user and user talk space; reply to editor Y in discussions; make reference to or comment on editor Y anywhere on Wikipedia, whether directly or indirectly; undo editor Y's edits to any page (whether by use of the revert function or by other means).

Putting aside the obvious question of why you would even want an award from someone you so clearly do not like or have any respect for, you could submit something but someone else would obviously have to review the nomination. You aren't banned from working in the same areas, just from each other. However, I would suggest you do yourself a favor and just follow the ban as rigidly and completely as you can imagine it being interpreted because that is usually how the community feels about these things and they (and I) have very little patience for anyone who tries to test the boundaries of a sanction.

You must be aware that the vast majority of users are able to contribute without needing any limited bans on them. As I discovered when logging this iban at WP:RESTRICT you are now subject to at least three different sanctions like this. You may want to consider adjusting your approach to Wikipedia. Prolific contributors of content are generally given considerable leeway, but if your editing has to be restricted again and again because of your behavior you may eventually find that you have exhausted the collective patience of the community and are no longer welcome. That is a situation we would all like to avoid, but it is entirely in your hands.

Interaction and topic bans are not a puzzle for you to try and resolve, they are supposed to be a message to you that you are doing something very wrong and you need to stop. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:20, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Fake Game show pages in user space

Hi.

You indicated at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:EmperorPoe that the fake game show pages are usually speedily deleted on site. I actually nominated a whole bunch of them recently. Should I go back a re-tag them for speedy deletion? regards. -- Whpq (talk) 19:11, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why not. As these pages basically present fantasy made-up game shows as if they are real, they qualify as hoaxes. I know speedy deletion is normally not supposed to include reasons from WP:NOT, but if a users' only interest in Wikipedia is a violation of WP:NOTWEBHOST I don't see why we need t spend a week having a discussion when the outcome is a foregone conclusion. In fact if you want to just post a list here I'll zap them myself. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:58, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MFD currently has a bunch of these pages listed, some of them nominated by me, some nominated by other editors. My list of obviously non-conformant pages are:

Cheers. -- Whpq (talk)

All these are now

Deleted and the mfds closed. I may take a look at the rest later. Beeblebrox (talk) 04:59, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adhisaya Ulagam 3D (2nd nomination)

Might you care to withdraw with the strong suggestion that this article on a released and reviewed film be improved over time and through regular editing? Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 03:17, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is a great search engine for Indian topics linked over WP:INDAFD. When it is working, it has proven invaluable. Thanks. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 17:34, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, I figured you must be using something I was not aware of although I still wonder why just searching ToI itself didn't work. As I recall I got a mountain of false positives for some other movie with a similar name. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Be well

. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 19:11, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All it took was a lttle love. MUCH better now. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 08:15, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit notice

You did exactly what I was trying to do, but failed to accomplish. Thanks! – Muboshgu (talk) 15:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was a bit confused myself for a minute there, as I thought that for whatever reason only admins can create edit notice pages. Then I realized it was not in the correct namespace and was not displaying when one went to edit the page. Still not sure if a non-admin can do that, I think that might have changed at some point in the last year or so. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:43, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion

[1] Thanks for unbanning me, 2nd thing, what you meant by "if i saw you into edit war"..

Well, suppose, i make edit, someone put warning on my page for "disruptive editing", and you will ban permanently? Thanks, let me know. Justicejayant (talk) 16:18, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Look, you have been previously blocked six times for edit warring. You should know what it is by now but perhaps you should read WP:EW, which is the Wikipedia policy on edit warring. This is why you kept getting blocked before, and if you do it again I will re-instate the block that was just lifted. I would also suggest you read WP:BRD which is advice on how to edit properly without edit warring. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:23, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, whenever i will face such situation, i will notify you, ok? So you can better tell me what to do, since you know better at this moment.Justicejayant (talk) 18:40, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You should not need to notify me or anyone else in order to avoid edit warring, just don't do it. I urge you to read the material I linked to in my previous post. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:42, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirecting "List of baseball player nicknames" page to "List of baseball nicknames"

Hi, I noticed that you redirected [of baseball player nicknames] to "List of baseball nicknames". Although I agree with your reason for the redirect, would it be better to merge the two lists? There may be names on the first list that are not in the second and vice versa. Natg 19 (talk) 19:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merging would indeed be a good idea and can be done by anyone who desires to do so by accessing the page history. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PIE

Horatio Snickers has given you a Pork pie. Pork pies are full of meaty goodness, and are wonderfully delicious! On Wikipedia, they promote love and sincerity. Hopefully, this one has made your day happier.

Here is a pie for you. Any time is a good time for pie.

Spread the goodness and sincerity of pork pies by adding {{subst:Pork Pie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message! Give one to someone you've had disagreements with in the past, or to a good friend.

Self Promoting sites of people with no notoriety

Why are you not allowing the deletion of pages which are clearly self-promoting and are of people of no notoriety? Surely, this is a clear breach of wikipedia terms. If not, everyone could just stick their CV (resume) on to wikipedia. Example is Matt_Bullock. Please advise what the difference is between this page and someone just paraphrasing their CV onto a wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.244.255.142 (talk) 08:35, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Because we have rules for deletion processes and admins are expected to follow them. You first nominated it as WP:CSD#A7, which means that the article does not assert the importance of the person. Be aware this is not the same as proving notability, all that the article needs is a claim of importance and it cannot be deleted under that criterion. That was the reason for the first decline, which you chose to revert and then add WP:CSD#G11 , which is for unambiguous advertising or promotion. While this is admittedly a somewhat subjective standard it is only meant to be used in the most blatant cases and I do not believe this is such a case. Declining a speedy deletion is not the same thing as endorsing the existence of an item, it merely means that in my judgement as a site administrator I do not believe it meets the criteria you specified. As I noted in my edit sumarry when declining the second time, you are still perfectly free to pursue other deletion measures such as proposed deletion or a deletion discussion. However, as an IP user you woul need someone else to create the discussion age for you. If you need that done let me know and I can do it. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:56, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel da Silva (actor)

Hi, I chose your name at random from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_administrators/Active . There is an AfD that has been going on for over a week, and I was wondering if, as an uninvolved admin, you could close it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Daniel_da_Silva_(actor) . Thanks, Benboy00 (talk) 11:21, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

User:Justicejayant

It seems this editor has gone straight back to their previous edit warring behaviour. --Saddhiyama (talk) 11:29, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I never re-inserted any of the text which you removed, So how it's a edit war? Plus i opened discussion 2 hours before i would add anything next, and till how haven't added anything back. Justicejayant (talk) 11:49, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Saddhiyama, Just saw the talk page, I think you should had added the talk back template on my page, so i wouldn't be adding back, anyways, it was only 1 revert, an accident, rather that i had any intention for doing so, so kindly forget, i will better remember next time :), hope the case is closed. Justicejayant (talk 11:57, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was not referring to your reversions after my edit, as can be seen from my link above I was referring to your reinsertion of the material that User:Blackguard SF had reverted, without you waiting for a response from that editor on the talk page. --Saddhiyama (talk) 16:05, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly my point, kindly leave me a reminder next time, so i won't be doing such mistake, right now, making a default page. We can carry on the discussion at the article's page. Justicejayant (talk) 16:07, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback privileges

Thank you so much for granting me the privileges. -- L o g X 20:04, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

W.A.K.O.-W.K.J.F. World Championships 2004 (Ylta)

There were two other articles in the AfD debate - are they also to be deleted?Peter Rehse (talk) 21:48, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. Meant to go back and do them, and just forgot apparently. thanks for the reminder,

Done. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:50, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CheersPeter Rehse (talk) 22:00, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notice

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:John. Thank you. ~Charmlet ^-talk- 18:10, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot sig [2]NE Ent 22:16, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. But you're going to make SineBot feel unneeded and he will cry little robot tears... Beeblebrox (talk) 22:22, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Containers

Thank you for your help in recruiting participants. Now that your bad faith accusations have been dismissed, perhaps people will start to work on container articles. You are welcome to join. Maybe if you are a member, you can prevent whatever it was that you were afraid was going to happen? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 18:23, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]