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:Please stop this {{u|Djm-leighpark}}. Either open an SPI or walk away. At this point the answer to "have you edited as another user" is "no". It shouldn't matter if this user has said yes, or no. If you have direct proof, then it should be pushed to SPI. All this is doing is causing a fight, Best Wishes, '''[[User:Lee Vilenski|<span style="color:green">Lee Vilenski</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lee Vilenski|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/Lee Vilenski|contribs]])</sup>''' 15:18, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
:Please stop this {{u|Djm-leighpark}}. Either open an SPI or walk away. At this point the answer to "have you edited as another user" is "no". It shouldn't matter if this user has said yes, or no. If you have direct proof, then it should be pushed to SPI. All this is doing is causing a fight, Best Wishes, '''[[User:Lee Vilenski|<span style="color:green">Lee Vilenski</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lee Vilenski|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/Lee Vilenski|contribs]])</sup>''' 15:18, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
::The answer was no right from the beginning but Djm-leighpark wants to make me jump when he says jump. I'm not going to jump for him. [[User:Polycarpa aurata|Polycarpa aurata]] ([[User talk:Polycarpa aurata#top|talk]]) 15:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
::The answer was no right from the beginning but Djm-leighpark wants to make me jump when he says jump. I'm not going to jump for him. [[User:Polycarpa aurata|Polycarpa aurata]] ([[User talk:Polycarpa aurata#top|talk]]) 15:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

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Re: LGBT topic

I have no idea about your question on my talk page, the userbox is just expressing that person individual view only, but doesn't mean the users is a LGBTphobia, since Wikipedia is a worldwide encyclopedia project which accommodated variety kind of editors individual expression. If you're interested contributions of writing some particular event that's relevant to LGBT people or LGBT artists with providing the WP:RS onto the articles project, you're welcome. However, please note that Wikipedia isn't the place for you to advocating your sexual orientation, read more about the WP:NOT policies and guidelines. SA 13 Bro (talk) 11:13, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for removing that infobox from your page. Irene Croat (talk) 15:40, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of John Wayne Bobbitt Uncut

Hello! Your submission of John Wayne Bobbitt Uncut at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! – Muboshgu (talk) 21:26, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfD for Letha Weapons

The AfD for Letha Weapons is still open. While it is open, the article should not be removed. Please stop moving the page, and let editors reach a consensus about what to do. • Gene93k (talk) 23:43, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The page should have been restored to my user area as requested. There is no point in having a deletion discussion. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 23:47, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

Hello, Polycarpa aurata,

I see that you got your article back. Apparently, not every editor thinks AFC reviews are helpful but that is still what I would recommend, reviewers can often spot problems that page creators may miss.

And I just wanted to say that if you had accepted my original offer to restore this draft back on January 18th, you wouldn't have had to spend the past two weeks discussing this at Deletion Review. I think editors who turn to noticeboards have mixed results but it is almost always going to be a big investment of your time and mental energy going through the arguments on them. I keep my distance from them unless I'm called to comment on a situation. Good luck with your content work, I really do mean that. Liz Read! Talk! 01:31, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Liz. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 03:48, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns about RepresentUs

Regarding your concerns about RepresentUs, I would suggest you open a discussion about the article at WP:COIN. ––FormalDude talk 04:17, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, FormalDude, I'll try that. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 04:25, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Polycarpa aurata I was just reading COIN to catch up on what I've missed/I'm missing due to an irl issue that's taking a great deal of my time and noticed you brought up something at COIN while you have less than 200 edits. I do not mention that as a negative thing, just wanted to say I am greatly impressed by a new editor being able to manage such a complex noticeboard and remain civil, continuing to assume good faith, and arguing eloquently your perspective (no judgement from my part on the actual thread, I'm staying uninvolved with that discussion). I hope the thread won't discourage you from participating in COIN and other noticeboards, and hope similarly to have productive interactions with you in article space in the future. And as I always tell new editors, if there is any question, concern, or issue you want some help with feel free to {{ping}} me or start a section in my user page. Enjoy the rest of the week :) PS: what is the origin of your user name, if you don't mind me asking? A. C. SantacruzPlease ping me! 22:00, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A. C. Santacruz, thank you. I will probably take you up on your offer to field questions. When I wanted to change my username, I was not allowed to have the one I wanted, so I used the name of the page I was reading at the time. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 22:18, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Cool-looking animal :) A. C. SantacruzPlease ping me! 22:27, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for John Wayne Bobbitt Uncut

On 6 February 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John Wayne Bobbitt Uncut, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that John Wayne Bobbitt Uncut was the bestselling pornographic film of 1994 and had the most rentals that year in the United States? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/John Wayne Bobbitt: Uncut. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, John Wayne Bobbitt Uncut), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
I just wanted to echo the statement made by A. C. Santacruz above that I do think you have managed to do extraordinarily well on Wikipedia for a newcomer. Before anyone else has the chance, I wanted to be the first person to award you a barnstar for your outstanding record thus far on the project. MJLTalk 06:07, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, MJL! Polycarpa aurata (talk) 15:33, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Standard Ds/alerts

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You have shown interest in articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

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Djm-leighpark (talk) 23:45, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Djm-leighpark: Can you please identify where you think I have "shown interest in India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan"? I have never edited those articles or, indeed, any articles related to those countries. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 03:59, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
}} Djm-leighpark I am still waiting for an answer. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 14:37, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Special:Diff/1079270666. Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:42, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth

Please read WP:DOB and typically do not bring forward a full date of birth onto a WP:BLP article unless widely published, only supply month and year of birth. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 23:45, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mean to be argumentative, but surely that isn't meant to apply to biographical pages? I have never seen a biography here that didn't have the date of birth. How can someone be notable enough to merit a page here but not notable enough that we wouldn't put their full date of birth? Polycarpa aurata (talk) 02:35, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well you are arguing about it. Suggest ask at WP:TEAHOUSE or raise a question at Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons if you are not satisfied with WP:DOB. I know I've done this myself (incorrectly) previously and it is quite commonly and erroneously done. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 06:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I will do as you suggest. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 22:09, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To state the obvious your plastering of the unnecessarily person's details all over WP:BLPN was not what I intended, and additionally it has now been taken to AfD. To say I am not happy with how you have done this would be an understatement. Djm-leighpark (talk) 11:13, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I need to claim I have received a (non public) email from oversight on Ticket#2022032710000821 sent Sun, 27 Mar 2022 06:57:39 which has informed me: "They are completely correct; if there is a reliable source that provides a DOB, there is no *procedural* reason to remove it, only one based on discussion and consensus." Unfortunately I have read that email just now, some 30 hours later. On that basis I need to revert the full DOB and stand back from that point. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 11:40, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Previous accounts

My analysis of your contributions indicates some probability you may have edited Wikipedia previously under another account; though that is by no means certain. If so can you please name accounts you have edited under previously or do you wish to claim WP:CLEANSTART. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 11:13, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Djm-leighpark: I don't know what "analysis" you've done, but I joined Wikipedia just after Christmas. I signed on today to find a flood of vaguely threatening message from you. Is all of this just because I added a birth date to Monisha Shah? Polycarpa aurata (talk) 15:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Polycarpa aurata: I won't say what I have done or not done in terms of analysis, but there are indicators (not proof) that for obvious reasons I will not reveal as it would assist blocked users circumvating blocks (that is not to imply you are one of those). That has had significant roll on consequences to my RL and has resulted in my trying to recover a situation of a relative failing to attend a Hospital X-Ray appointment that I got problems from. This is "my fault". You will observe that at the BLPN others have chosen to remove the date of birth entirely, though there does appear to be evidence elseone has uncovered that the Times newspaper has published her age annually on her birthday for the years 2017 to 2020 at least on the basis of her Chairwomanship of Rose Bruford College of Theatre and Performance in their "Birthdays today" section which may stick as widely published by WP:RS. If that doesn't satisfy the BLPN/RS (and other jockeys) then a whole load of WP:Wikipedia:Revision deletion's really need to be requested. Now with regards to the question, which you didn't directly answer, but I have to AGF that was unintentional, I am led to understand you first joined Wikipedia just after Christmas 2021 and have not edited Wikipedia previously. If you are concerned I'm not following Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers you may wish to take me to WP:ANI but I assure you your actions and my actions would be subjected to intense scrutiny but even if I am wrong I might reasonably to thought to be persuing a presumption of privacy. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:16, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) Polycarpa I would strongly recommend you just respond plainly and let Djm move on. From my experience interacting with them this is just run-of-the-mill type stuff and is not meant to be a personal comment on you. They're just doing due diligence in good faith is all :) A. C. SantacruzPlease ping me! 16:43, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A. C. Santacruz, I appreciate your calm way of approaching things, but this feels *very* personal to me and I don't like it at all. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 17:26, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It comes with the territory of editing in Wikipedia. When you end up discussing issues at the noticeboards and you are a new editor people will usually make inquiries. It's annoying, certainly, and might feel personally hurtful at first, but once you start seeing it happen a bunch to others you understand why it happens. In any case, there is really nothing Djm can do if you say "I have not edited before Christmas 2021 and have no other accounts", which I imagine is what you meant by your above message. There's no need to make it more of a discussion that it needs to be. Djm-leighpark you probably could've just let the message above suffice. In any case, Polycarpa just answer plainly and let's all move on :D A. C. SantacruzPlease ping me! 17:38, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but I don't need to play silly word games with someone who has suddenly taken an interest in me and started leaving me indecipherable accusations about his relative's xrays. I've had just about enough of this. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 17:59, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Djm-leighpark: So a relative of yours missed an xray appointment. Can you tell me how that is *any* way related to me or to Wikipedia? Polycarpa aurata (talk) 17:31, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Polycarpa aurata:: Because I screwed up in cancelling it early dealing with your privacy pushing which has cascaded out pushing a lot of other issues. I've also threatened a complaint against a hospital over failure to handle something. That's my fault but its affecting other people in real life. Yes that's my problem. And you've done everything but answered the straightforward question. Is there something your're not telling us? Now have your last word. I likely not to respond to it. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 18:43, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry that you chose to put Wikipedia ahead of your relative's health but perhaps this experience it will encourage you to reflect on your priorities. I *have* answered your question but you are unwilling to accept it at face value. I should probably just take A. C. Santacruz's advice but I don't react well to people like you and I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of browbeating me into playing your game. Good luck with your spy hunting! Polycarpa aurata (talk) 14:24, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't choose to do and wouldn't choose to do that. Life happens. Accidents Happen. You still haven't answered the question. And in case you are wondering I was dragged into this one yesterday: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BarehamOliver. So "Spy hunting" is no joke. I actually am on Wikipedia to do contact. As a spin-off there is sometimes some learning to come out of the BLPN and it is actually useful to study it closely. Very closely. And hold the DOB has been removed and re-instated by various parties. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 14:40, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I believe a reasonable person would understand "I joined Wikipedia just after Christmas" as an answer to your question and would have no difficulty figuring out if it was an affirmative or a negative response. I would be interested to know what that same reasonable person makes of "I actually am on Wikipedia to do contact" because it means nothing to me. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 14:53, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop this Djm-leighpark. Either open an SPI or walk away. At this point the answer to "have you edited as another user" is "no". It shouldn't matter if this user has said yes, or no. If you have direct proof, then it should be pushed to SPI. All this is doing is causing a fight, Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 15:18, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The answer was no right from the beginning but Djm-leighpark wants to make me jump when he says jump. I'm not going to jump for him. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 15:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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