User talk:Silver seren

Silverseren

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Well...here's my talk page. If anyone has questions about an edit I did, please put it here. --Silver seren 14:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

RE: Sorry

Understood. It's alright. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 13:39, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, what makes you say, "It does appear that you are not going to be blocked"? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 01:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

It's appears as if you're wrong. Nice knowing you. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 14:38, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Cote d'ivoire

I agree with your comment about the supervote in the close. do you think it's worth opening a move review? I think a no-consensus close would have been a better reading. --KarlB (talk) 02:51, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I very much feel a Move review should be started. This was way too much a supervote to just ignore, especially considering how contentious the discussion was as a whole anyways. Please link me once you start one (and maybe link to the Post closure discussion section in your Move review nomination as well). Silverseren^C 09:31, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

thanks - however given your experience, perhaps you might be better suited to frame the move review? Last time I did a DRV, I think I didn't frame the statement well. Cheers! --KarlB (talk) 12:03, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Stevens Institute of Technology page

Silver,

You have been very helpful in getting editor assistance to assist me with COI edits on the Stevens Institute of Technology page. The editor who has been assisting has been very helpful but has yet been able to complete the final review.

I have posted a notice on the Paid Editor Help board seeking a final review of the page, which you can find here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cooperation/Paid_Editor_Help#Stevens_Institute_of_Technology_article_updates_according_to_guidelines_for_college_and_university_articles. If there is anything you can do to help get the final review done, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you! QueenCity11 (talk) 12:42, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Silver - just wanted to check if another editor has come forward to review this page. Thank you again for your help in reviewing and facilitating. QueenCity11 (talk) 12:45, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Miss Peregrine's Home For Peculiar Children

Alright, thanks for your contribution to the page. I guess what I keep writing is too long. Thanks for simplifying it. I guess I write too much. Wheresyourgreen (talk) 21:38, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Wanna organize your user page?

Wanna organize your user page? I can show you how. Tonymax469 (talk) 04:00, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean by organize? Silverseren^C 04:06, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Look at my user page: User:Tonymax469 —Preceding undated comment added 04:09, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind some organization, but I also don't want to lose any of the information on my page. Are there any changes that can be made that won't remove the info altogether. Silverseren^C 04:20, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

How about this for a suggestion, make your user page look professional.

How about this for a suggestion, make your user page look professional. First, back up your information to a new page, e.g. /wiki/User:Yourusername/backup1. Next, download Wikiversal/WikiverSuite and use its Wiki Assistant to organize your user page. Last, break your backed up information into pieces and place them at the appropriate places in the new organization. In that way, visitors will see you in a new light and want to interact with you at a new level. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonymax469 (talk • contribs) 04:29, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Eh, it's okay. I don't really care enough to bother with having to download and work all that stuff. Silverseren^C 04:35, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

But Silver seren, your user page is utterly boring! From which I conclude that you must be boring as well. I think you should try and be seen in a new light. At the very least, put like some motorcycles or half-naked women on there, it will encourage communication. Drmies (talk) 17:47, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Half-naked...women? O_o Ick. Silverseren^C 20:54, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Hehe it's not about you; you've already met yourself. As long as the majority of WP editors are straight white male geeks without a girlfriend, yes, naked women are most likely to help you start a good conversation, wouldn't you say? "Hey Silver, that's a great-looking half-naked woman on your user page." "Yes it is, isn't it?". "Yes. Well, goodbye." OK, maybe not. Happy days, Drmies (talk) 01:34, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

ANI

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I have re-closed the discussion. Please leave it this time. Administrators cannot unblock this user with the consent of ArbCom, as I mentioned in that diff. Please contact AC if you would like to continue with this matter. They are the only ones available to assist you. Thank you. Rjd0060 (talk) 05:15, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Interview

Hey! Thanks for those fixes; I think both changes you made were good ones. Cheers, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 11:41, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

SPI

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Halfnakedlabrador - interesting outcome. Let me know if your problems persist and I will put a rangeblock in. Elen of the Roads (talk) 13:56, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

EthicalWiki, DYK one minute AfD the next

Hi Silver, one of the article listed on the Major Contribution page of Co-op is on death row. Care to weigh in? On the surface the issue is notability, but it seems to me there are other under currents too. Woz2 (talk) 11:38, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Just to let you know, editor Hipocrite has characterized this notification as canvassing. I have no idea how you feel about this, so I think that the accusation is unfair. Apologies if I did something wrong. Woz2 (talk) 18:22, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee

You asked me a question. I gave you an answer. If you intend to follow through on this, now is your chance (and Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee is the place to do it). If you don't intend to follow through, I'm not sure what the game was, but let's not have a rematch. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 03:41, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

ArbCom notification

As you participated in the AE thread which led to this request, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#Amendment_request:_Race_and_intelligence — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rue Cardinale (talk • contribs) 10:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Mail!

Hello, Silver seren. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

Ocaasi ^{t | c} 15:42, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi!

As one of these who gave me a barnstar, maybe you might voice your opinion at [1] in case if there was actually a discussion. (I'm not asking for any kind of support, but for a neutral opinion, actually based on my edits.) Thanks. --Niemti (talk) 12:29, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Adventure: Request for feedback on Community Fellowship proposal

Hi! I'm contacting you because you have participated or discussed The Wikipedia Adventure learning tutorial/game idea. I think you should know about a current Community Fellowship proposal to create the game with some Wikimedia Foundation support. Your feedback on the proposal would be very much appreciated. I should note that the feedback is for the proposal, not the proposer, and even if the Fellowship goes forward it might be undertaken by presently not-mentioned editors. Thanks again for your consideration.

Proposal: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fellowships/Project_Ideas/The_Wikipedia_Adventure

Cheers, User:Ocaasi 16:41, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

COI+ certification proposal

I've thought of an idea that might break our current logjam with paid editing. I'd love your sincere feedback and opinion.

• WP:COI certification

Feel free to circulate this to anyone you think should know about it, but please recognize that it hasn't agreed upon by either PR organizations or WikiProjects or the wider community. It's also just a draft, so any/many changes can still be made. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi EdwardsBot (talk) 15:02, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Jack Welch

Hi there Silver seren. I've been working on the proposed revision to Jack Welch's article regarding his compensation and have made several changes to the section based upon Maximilianklein and Coaster92's suggestions. Since you have previously participated in the discussion on the talk page, would you have time to read the revised section and make the edit if you approve of the changes? I'll also be asking Coaster92 and Maximilianklein for them to review again. Thanks, Hamilton83 (talk) 20:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Get your facts right before making serious accusations

I see you're buying a few comments of the disgruntled. Be sure you're on solid ground before you issue statements that attempt to discredit me. Tony (talk) 05:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

You're one of the good ones

Dammit Silver, You are one of the good ones. You know it and I know it. In answer to your question, I am me dynamic IP. I've been around for a while and first noticed you when you joined ARS. I have been very impressed with your work ever since. It is something you can be very proud of. I know you've qualified you involvement with ARS as imporving articles rather than !voting. I also source articles to save them and don't ever !vote because I'm an IP I watched your RfA and was very upset at the way the community treated you. You were kicked around at ARS and you were kicked around at your RfA. And I agree, it's not fair. You have been fighting the good fight, trying to make the project better whenever you see an injustice. And that is very important. I've been trying to do the same thing. But over the past few months, you have been taking it a little too far. I agree with you, it's important to question ArbCom when they make a mistake, but you can only go so far before people start ignoring you.

You absolutely are one of the good ones here at Wikipedia and it's important that you keep fighting the good fight, but it's also important to know when to withdraw, otherwise you hurt your position. You've had a good relationship with many people in the community over the years and it's important to maintain these connections in order to get things changed for the better. There's a lot of bad stuff that happens at Wikipedia and it needs to change. And there are very few of us pushing for that change, so it's important to know how far you can push before it becomes counter productive. I know you're upset at things and I expect this message might be percieved negatively. I don't want that because you're one of the few people here I truly respect. I'm just trying to say that you've done as much as you can with this specific issue. ArbCom now knows your concerns and hopefully they will make some changes. Other than that, there's not much else that can be done. Hope you understand. All the best to you. 64.40.57.92 (talk) 12:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't really planning on going any farther at this point anyways. NewtonGeek and I are in agreement that this won't get us anywhere and NG has more important avenues to pursue. Thank you for your comment though, I appreciate it. Silverseren^C 00:05, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Silver. I think it's important that you keep fighting for what is right and just. But I really wish you would not have responded to Phil's comment. I'll just encourage you to show the community your most positive side so that others will be encouraged to help you. Kind regards. 64.40.54.25 (talk) 05:35, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

clarification please

WRT your recent comments about Delicious Carbuncle getting away with stuff, was the following what you referred to? Delicious_carbuncle_severely_admonished_and_warned

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 20:18, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Geo Swan, I have asked Silver seren not to make any further allegations about me, at the risk of facing admin action. I hope that he will be very very careful in his response and that you will not put him in an awkward position with your questions. Perhaps you should ask your questions via email, where seren is free to say whatever he likes about me? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't even understand what you mean by linking to the case decision. I guess i'd give a tentative yes? Silverseren^C 21:02, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks for all of your help with the contributed articles from our side. Greatly appreciated! Khyati Gupta (talk) 06:15, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Glad I could be of assistance. :3 Silverseren^C 09:04, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks for believing in the article: Job attitude, its currently live! Khyati Gupta (talk) 08:14, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar

Thank you for your help in facilitating the review of the Stevens Institute of Technology article. I also appreciate your attention and focus on improving the process for Paid Editor edits. As a paid editor that is trying to stay true to Wikipedia principles, I am very interested in those efforts and would like to help if there is a way I can be helpful. QueenCity11 (talk) 21:11, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

At this point, we just need more editors to join the project, especially admin editors. That's the one thing that will help make the process smoother and quicker. The more eyes we have working on the Paid Editor board, the more neutral we'll get and the quicker we can get each request completed. It's as simple as that. And thank you for working so hard to follow the policies of Wikipedia. The patience you have for the process is an amazing example to others. Silverseren^C 21:26, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Criticism of Wikipedia

I note that during an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion about the page Criticism of Wikipedia you unilaterally decided that the consensus of a previous discussion was incorrect and reverted the page to an article without discussion or notification. To avoid getting into a war I have not reverted your actions, but I do consider them very inappropriate and others may still revert you. The correct course of action is, as always, to express your views in the currently ongoing XfD discussion where other editors can evaluate your arguments and agree or disagree. I will also be mentioning this at WP:AN/I and you may wish to respond there also. Thryduulf (talk) 10:43, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

That's why I re-added in the RfD template, rather than erasing it completely. Silverseren^C 11:05, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

You've been mentioned in a WP:AN/I discussion regarding the Criticism of Wikipedia page

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Criticism of Wikipedia. Thank you. Thryduulf (talk) 11:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thank you for your help with the article: Job attitude. The article still hasn't passed DYK. Hopefully it will. But I thank you for all your contributions towards it! :D Khyati Gupta (talk) 19:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Glad I could help. I know how hard it is to work on those general, broad topics. Silverseren^C 21:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Do you have super powers to maybe ping someone who can review the article for DYK? -Khyati Gupta (talk) 22:51, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. Silverseren^C 23:02, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Khyati Gupta (talk) 23:03, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Bat Yeor

I see that you were interested in the subject there a book of her Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide. I have found three book reviews from scholarly press that could be used a source to the article.I can send it to you if you are interested to expand the article.Thank you.--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 08:42, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

I think I want to focus on Bat Ye'or first, but thanks. And I probably have the scholarly reviews you're talking about, because of my access to Highbeam. Silverseren^C 09:17, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Since you asked to be notified

Partial unblock of Peter Damian at AN/I.VolunteerMarek 16:13, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Further coverage of James Hansen et al., of further interest?

From your comments on Talk:Global warming#Perception of Climate Change - PNAS Study ... see Wikipedia:Be bold.

This my be of interest ...

• (Climate change) Bell weather; A statistical analysis shows how things really are heating up Aug 11th 2012 The Economist

Of further interest may be Extreme weather (see [2]), 2011 Texas wildfires (see [3]), 2010 Northern Hemisphere summer (see [4]), 2011 North American heat wave, 2012 Colorado wildfires, 2012 North American drought (see [5]), Heat wave (see [6]) ... etc 108.73.115.131 (talk) 02:39, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Request edits

Hi Silver. Thanks for chipping in on the request edits. I was wondering if you noticed the new templates Noun and I worked on (not to be a annoying about it, but just if they are helpful)

For example, the Jess3 edit requests I would consider non-controversial edits. If you want to, you could reduce the burden a little with the following template: {{request edit|D|A}} {{request edit}} has been deprecated. Please change this template call to one of the following:

• For edit requests relating to a conflict of interest, please use {{edit COI}}.
• If you are partially-blocked from editing the page, please use {{edit partially-blocked}}.
• If the page is protected, use one of the following:
  • {{SPER}} for semi-protected pages
  • {{EPER}} for extended-confirmed protected pages
  • {{TPER}} for template-protected pages
  • {{FPER}} for fully-protected pages
  • {{IAER}} for interface admin protected pages

If you simply need to ask for help in making an edit, please change the template to {{help me}}.

Or for John Sullivan, if you wanted to, you could take it out of the queue using {{request edit|D|O}} {{request edit}} has been deprecated. Please change this template call to one of the following:

• For edit requests relating to a conflict of interest, please use {{edit COI}}.
• If you are partially-blocked from editing the page, please use {{edit partially-blocked}}.
• If the page is protected, use one of the following:
  • {{SPER}} for semi-protected pages
  • {{EPER}} for extended-confirmed protected pages
  • {{TPER}} for template-protected pages
  • {{FPER}} for fully-protected pages
  • {{IAER}} for interface admin protected pages

If you simply need to ask for help in making an edit, please change the template to {{help me}}.

Although, it would be less effort to just add the missing item in this case. I don't mean to be annoying about it and pester people to use our templates, but just thought you might find them handy. Most of them still need some work in the wording too, if you find they need tweaking. User:King4057 (EthicalWiki) 04:14, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

They're interesting, but they also seem a bit...rude, to me. Silverseren^C 04:20, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm... they are a little. They come off as very critical. I'll see how we can tweak them. User:King4057 (EthicalWiki) 04:33, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

I took a crack at making them sound less critical, mostly by cutting them back. I found that there was some editorializing that was intended as instructions/feedback, but probably came off as condescending or critical. Let me know if you have more feedback and we can keep improving the templates. We could probably borrow a lot more from AfC, but right now it's just kinda scrappy. User:King4057 (EthicalWiki) 04:45, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

They're much better now. I don't know how much i'll personally use them, since I prefer a more hands on approach, but other people will probably find them useful. Silverseren^C 05:04, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

2011 Egyptian Revolution

Hi Silverseren! I just had a fascinating talk with a researcher named Heather Ford about what it was like to edit the 2011 Egyptian Revolution article during the heat of the protests and overthrow of Mubarak. She's very interested in hearing from other editors who were heavily involved in writing and discussing that page. I don't know if you've read her report Wikipedia Sources: Managing sources in rapidly evolving global news articles on the English Wikipedia but it mentions you and Lihaas and Abrazame and Egyptian Liberal, and goes into some detail about the debates we had and decisions we made. I think you'd really enjoy talking to her. If you're interested, she'd love you to contact her at your convenience at hfordsa@gmail.com. Hope you're doing well! Ocaasi ^{t | c} 20:25, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

That's really cool. I'll go send an email now. Silverseren^C 22:19, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

JESS3

Hi Silverseren, just wanted to thank you again for your assistance updating the JESS3, Jesse Thomas and Leslie Bradshaw articles and also let you know that I have another small request for the JESS3 article, if you're able to help. As you might know, the company moved its HQ to LA earlier this summer. Right now, the infobox and Background of the article still say they're headquartered in D.C. and they'd like to get that updated. If you have time to review my suggested edits, that would be great. Thanks heaps, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 14:28, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

• Thank you for your contribution to Global warming. (",) Please see wp:Tea. 108.73.112.91 (talk) 04:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)