User talk:Yozer1: Difference between revisions

Content deleted Content added

Inline

Revision as of 20:22, 30 November 2013

Hello, Yozer1, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

Introduction
The five pillars of Wikipedia
How to edit a page
How to write a great article
Manual of Style
Also feel free to make test edits in the sandbox.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, please see our help pages, and if you can't find what you are looking for there, please feel free to leave me a message or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will drop by to help. Kannie | talk 17:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aziz Mahmud Hudayi

This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Aziz Mahmud Hudayi, and it appears to include a substantial copy of http://www.mevlana800.info/sufi.htm. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. See our copyright policy for further details.

This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot (talk) 18:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Erzurumlu Ibrahim Hakki

The article Erzurumlu Ibrahim Hakki has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:N - no sources, and Google search turns up nothing in English. I cannot read sources in Arabic or Turkish (sorry, I'm English) so if these exist, please add them to the article to prevent deletion.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Elen of the Roads (talk) 20:23, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File permission problem with File:Abu Barakat Tomb in Maldives.jpg

Thanks for uploading File:Abu Barakat Tomb in Maldives.jpg. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file agreed to license it under the given license.

If you created this media entirely yourself but have previously published it elsewhere (especially online), please either

make a note permitting reuse under the CC-BY-SA or another acceptable free license (see this list) at the site of the original publication; or
Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-enwikimedia.org, stating your ownership of the material and your intention to publish it under a free license. You can find a sample permission letter here. If you take this step, add {{OTRS pending}} to the file description page to prevent premature deletion.

If you did not create it entirely yourself, please ask the person who created the file to take one of the two steps listed above, or if the owner of the file has already given their permission to you via email, please forward that email to permissions-enwikimedia.org.

If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:File copyright tags#Fair use, and add a rationale justifying the file's use on the article or articles where it is included. See Wikipedia:File copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have provided evidence that their copyright owners have agreed to license their works under the tags you supplied, too. You can find a list of files you have created in your upload log. Files lacking evidence of permission may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Kelly ^hi! 13:26, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some advice

I see you're having a bit of difficulty getting anything done here at Wikipedia. Can I suggest that you might want to read my advice to new users? It's a good place to start. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:30, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

More of the same

It's not for us to decide how to interpret history. Recent edits made by you to Hezârfen Ahmed Çelebi and Lycia seem aimed not to more accurately reflect sources, but to favour an interpretation. To be frank, several edits seem motivated by "feelings", personal disposition to the subject; this is something we all struggle with- just a well intended 'heads-up'. Mavigogun (talk) 06:40, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly unfree File:Sheikh Edebali.jpeg

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Sheikh Edebali.jpeg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. ALH (talk) 07:00, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Malatya

I would be interested in seeing your sources that state Malatya/Melitene was taken by the Danishmend Turks in 934. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:44, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I got it confused with the final 1101 taking over of the city by the Danishmend Turks. Thank you for enlightening me.Yozer1 (talk) 07:32, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File permission problem with File:Fatih Altaylı on a TV Show.png

Thanks for uploading File:Fatih Altaylı on a TV Show.png. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file has agreed to release it under the given license.

If you are the copyright holder for this media entirely yourself but have previously published it elsewhere (especially online), please either

make a note permitting reuse under the CC-BY-SA or another acceptable free license (see this list) at the site of the original publication; or
Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en@wikimedia.org, stating your ownership of the material and your intention to publish it under a free license. You can find a sample permission letter here. If you take this step, add {{OTRS pending}} to the file description page to prevent premature deletion.

If you did not create it entirely yourself, please ask the person who created the file to take one of the two steps listed above, or if the owner of the file has already given their permission to you via email, please forward that email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org.

If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:File copyright tags#Fair use, and add a rationale justifying the file's use on the article or articles where it is included. See Wikipedia:File copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have provided evidence that their copyright owners have agreed to license their works under the tags you supplied, too. You can find a list of files you have created in your upload log. Files lacking evidence of permission may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. You may wish to read the Wikipedia's image use policy. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:33, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts on Hasan_Cemal

I saw your reverts on Hasan_Cemal. On wikipedia, we're picky about living people, anything that's said about them has to have a reliable source behind it. Your post has what looks to be an opinion piece from a Turkish newspaper. Admittedly, I can't tell if the newspaper is reliable, the piece itself appears to not be reliable. Instead of reverting, may I suggest you place a note on our reliable sources board and ask if this is indeed a reliable source. If you keep reverting , you could be blocked for it. KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh 17:30, 4 November 2013 (UTC) [reply]

Thank you for your notification KoshVorlon. It seems that you will accept my contributions to Hasan Cemal if I find a "reliable" source. Sure, I can do that. In fact, I can find numerous sources to justify my case. But there is no need, it is not that important. The source that I had on is admittedly from the pen of another writer. I am fluent in a couple of languages, you will have to take my word for the translation.

As for reverting, may I remind you that my contribution were deleted. I would have thought the person who removed them would be warned of vandalism. Thank you.

Yozer1 - thanks for your response, actually, I was able to read the Turkish source you presented with Chrome (I have a translator plugin for it ). It looks like an opinion piece, and yes, it does talk about Hasan Cemal, but it never uses the word "unappologetic". If you want that term to be in that article, you'll need a reliable source that says just that (take a look at our BLP policy and you'll see what I mean. As far as taking your word for it, actually, even if it's in another language, we have speakers of other languages that could verify what the source says. We almost never take anyone's word for it, we require a source that says what the entry is saying (the only exception is anything from our OTRS team as they deal with non-public information. I invite you to ask around about this, since I'm not a sysop, nor an admin, nor anything other than an editor, just as you are. KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh 11:53, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

KoshVorlon - I see. Thanks again for the valuable info.

Conquest of...

Hallo Yozer,
I reverted you because you wrote "Conquest of Istanbul" which is a nonsense and as link points to nothing (red link). Alex2006 (talk) 15:30, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit-warring and comment removal

You've been warned for edit-warring: if you revert again you can expect to be blocked. Additionally, if you remove other editors' comments again, you may be blocked for disruptive editing. Please use the article talkpage to arrive at a consensus. Acroterion (talk) 16:52, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Don't do this [1] again. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time because my warning may not have come in time. Acroterion (talk) 16:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ANI discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Helen Online 16:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

November 2013

You have been blocked temporarily from editing for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

I blocked your account for 24 hours for edit warring on Erzurum, Talk:Erzurum, and User talk:Sandstein. In particular, in Talk:Erzurum you made four reverts, and on the two talk pages I mentioned you made no constructive contribution, just reverting edits of other users. This is not an acceptable dispute resolution avenue. Please resort to constructive editing when the block expires. Note that I treat the block as usual and I did not check whether you have any Arbcom restrictions. If you do, the block can be modified by any administrator.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Yozer1 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

The contributions I made on Erzurum were reversed without a discussion on Talk:Erzurum. Yozer1 (talk) 17:20, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You tried to prevent your edits from being discussed on the talkpage and edit-warred there and at Sandstein's talkpage to hide other users' comments. Acroterion (talk) 18:08, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Please read WP:BRD to see how it's done. Yozer1 made no attempt to discuss it on the talk page and repeatedly removed the talk page discussion I started. Helen Online 17:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly recommend you follow Helen's advice. It's clear that you don't understand how to constructively interact with other editors and your subterfuge saying that your edit warring opponents did not discuss things on the talk page is pure WP:TE. If this continues after your block expires, your next block will likely be indefinite. Toddst1 (talk) 21:34, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am entitled to my point of view, supported by evidence, as you are to yours.Yozer1 (talk) 15:29, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Erroneous Turkish Translations

Your interpretation of the Turkish "fetih" as "liberation" instead of the ubiquitous "conquest" is bizarre; the Turks universally proffer "conquest". What is your explanation for this? It seems that either your apprehension of English or Turkish is in error, or you are advocating an atypical personal preference.Mavigogun (talk) 21:45, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to debate with and satisfy the opposing point of view is not easy. Thank you for your support.Yozer1 (talk) 15:30, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What opposing view? Please cite one instance of "Mehmet the Liberator" - as I can find NOTHING. Who are these people that call Mehmet The Conqueror "liberator"? What are their names? Where are they published?Mavigogun (talk) 22:48, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ayrı şeylerden bahsediyoruz. "Fall of Constantinople" yerine bir "Conquest of Constantinople" dene, gör kaç kişi karşı çıkıyor.Yozer1 (talk) 12:44, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So, no credible references?Mavigogun (talk) 16:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wake up and do some research. It is a liberation from the tyranny of the Byzantines from a Muslim point of view. E.g.: http://www.alsunna.org/forum/index.php?topic=62.0 or http://www.muslimmotherhoodsg.com/sultan-muhd-alfateh-result-of-islamic-religious-education-from-young/. But as you can see, I have not pursued pushing that label since it might not be considered neutral.Yozer1 (talk) 18:07, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That settles the issue nicely: the edit was most definitely propaganda. Wikipedia is not a venue for promoting a political agenda, a particular view, or favoured interpretation- nor is a forum rant a credible source. YOU should have disdained such a label because YOU assessed that it would advocate a highly marginal partisan point of view. Unless you are able to report judiciously and faithfully adhere to the tenants of Wikipedia, desisting would be wise. Mavigogun (talk) 20:26, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So says a User:Mavigogun who falsely claims trees were cut in the construction of the Yavuz Sultan Selim Bridge. Your reference does not mention any trees being cut. In addition, the Italian construction company says the plans never changed during construction. Are you ignoring that point of view and pushing your own Gezi-minded propaganda? Yozer1 (talk) 16:47, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please see

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Yozer1 --Երևանցի ^talk 22:53, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

If I were you, I would avoid removing any information that could be construed as disruptive editing. Since the references were there, simply at the end of the following sentence. I have restored the information, including a quote from the source. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:48, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for adding the rest of the sentence. Now, what would you do if I were to bring you contrary evidence?Yozer1 (talk) 19:51, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Topic ban from Armenia and Azerbaijan

The following sanction now applies to you (in accordance with the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions):

Indefinite ban from all topics covered by WP:ARBAA2 on all pages of Wikipedia, including talk

You have been sanctioned per a discussion at WP:Arbitration enforcement.

This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at decision#Final decision. This sanction has been recorded on the log of sanctions for that decision. If the sanction includes a topic ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.

You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. EdJohnston (talk) 20:22, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See the decision at this AE thread. Let me know if you have any questions. EdJohnston (talk) 20:22, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 124: / Line 124: @@
 If I were you, I would avoid removing any information that could be construed as disruptive editing. Since the references '''were''' there, simply at the end of the following sentence. I have restored the information, including a quote from the source. --[[User:Kansas Bear|Kansas Bear]] ([[User talk:Kansas Bear|talk]]) 19:48, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 :Thank you for adding the rest of the sentence. Now, what would you do if I were to bring you contrary evidence?[[User:Yozer1|Yozer1]] ([[User talk:Yozer1#top|talk]]) 19:51, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
+== Topic ban from Armenia and Azerbaijan ==
+{{Ivmbox
+|2=Commons-emblem-hand.svg
+|imagesize=50px
+|1=The following sanction now applies to you (in accordance with the procedure described at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions]]):
+{{Talkquote|1=Indefinite ban from all topics covered by [[WP:ARBAA2]] on all pages of Wikipedia, including talk}}
+You have been sanctioned per a discussion at [[WP:Arbitration enforcement]].
+This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an [[Wikipedia:Administrators#Involved admins|uninvolved administrator]] under the authority of the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee|Arbitration Committee]]'s decision at [[decision#Final decision]]. This sanction has been recorded on the log of sanctions for that decision. If the sanction includes a topic ban, please read the [[Wikipedia:Banning policy|banning policy]] to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
+You may appeal this sanction using the process described [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions#Appeal|here]]. I recommend that you use the [[Template:Arbitration enforcement appeal#Usage|arbitration enforcement appeals template]] if you wish to submit an appeal to the enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard.&nbsp; Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you.<!-- This message generated from Template:AE_sanction.--> [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 20:22, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
+}} See the decision at [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=583950980&oldid=583950787 this AE thread]. Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 20:22, 30 November 2013 (UTC)