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*'''Keep''' per [[WP:DABCONCEPT]]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 17:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per [[WP:DABCONCEPT]]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 17:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per [[WP:DABCONCEPT]] as per Crouch and Presidentman. I'd argue that a smartphone is a type of PDA with the telephony features tacked on, but that's getting into weeds that we don't need to get into when discussing redirects-- the ''average layman'' would think of a smartphone as a type of mobile phone, and a mobile phone as a type of telephone. In that sense, DABCONCEPT applies, and the redirect should go to Telephone. [[User:Lunamann|Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest]] ([[User talk:Lunamann|talk]]) 23:23, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per [[WP:DABCONCEPT]] as per Crouch and Presidentman. I'd argue that a smartphone is a type of PDA with the telephony features tacked on, but that's getting into weeds that we don't need to get into when discussing redirects-- the ''average layman'' would think of a smartphone as a type of mobile phone, and a mobile phone as a type of telephone. In that sense, DABCONCEPT applies, and the redirect should go to Telephone. [[User:Lunamann|Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest]] ([[User talk:Lunamann|talk]]) 23:23, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per Presidentman. <small>Only in my dreams of a different world, [[landline]] ''should'' be the primary topic {{oldsmiley}}.</small> <small>—&nbsp;[[User:Godsy|<span style="color:#39A78E;">'''Godsy'''</span>]]<sup>&nbsp;([[User talk:Godsy|TALK]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">[[Special:Contributions/Godsy|<span style="color:#DAA520;">CONT</span>]])</sub></small> 17:16, 1 March 2024 (UTC)


====Ramon Morla====
====Ramon Morla====

Revision as of 17:16, 1 March 2024

February 29

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 29, 2024.

Gelo Racing

A rather misplaced redirect; the team did more than just a domestic series. SpacedFarmer (talk) 21:15, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manae

implausible misspelling(?) of its japanese name, manene. also unlikely speculation, as it was also named in gen 3. results only showed an in-game trainer and an anime production staff member with this name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete or weak retarget. The top results all relate to some non-notable tiktokers/youtubers, Inanidrilus manae - longstanding consensus has repeatedly been that redirects from specific names are not useful, so I don't support targetting it here; and Manaé Feleu, a French rugby union player but I can't find any evidence that she's commonly referred to by her first name alone (searching for Manae rugby -Feleu finds only places where her surname has been misspelled) so while I don't oppose retargetting it here it's not my first choice. Thryduulf (talk) 12:48, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate per Thryduulf's findings. Steel1943 (talk) 20:53, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sudoweedo

like munchlax, it was shown and named in gen 3, so not sure where this came from. it doesn't even look like a weed, or weed, and results only show memes about its evolution sudowoodo and... johnny bravo fanart cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:41, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Laxbe

not a name munchlax has ever had, ever. not even the depths of bulbapedia had any info on this name. since munchlax was revealed and explicitly named in gen 3, i don't even think this is a smugleaf case, where fans speculated the name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:37, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete or mention Talk:Munchlax#Is Laxbe his name? indicates that there was speculation that this would be the character's name, and this Bulbapedia user page explains why that was. If there are reliable sources covering this speculation then it may be worth mentioning, if there is no content then deletion is the way to go. Outside of Pokemon, almost all the results seem to be Japanese-language websites relating to beauty products but my knowledge of both Japanese and beauty products is insufficient to say any more. Thryduulf (talk) 12:55, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    so it was a smugleaf case... but only for a few people during a few weeks, until it was revealed in the first pmd game(s) and apparently also the anime
    unlike smugleaf, sources don't seem to have picked up on it, so i guess my vote can be changed to a weak delete until a theoretical source is found cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:31, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Uttar Pradesh Legislative Assembly election

There is no Legislative Assembly election scheduled for Uttar Pradesh in 2024. The next Legislative Assembly election is expected to happen in 2027, five years after the last one in 2022. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mother Superior

re-targeting to Superior general (Christianity), alternatively an article "Mother superior/Superior" should be written. Mother Superior simply redirects to abbess, which seems to be plain wrong. These terms are not synonyms. Usually, only the nuns of some of the old orders, such as Benedictines, Cistercians etc. have abbesses, some of those orders (usually the Mendicants, with the exception of the Poor Clares), have prioresses. The much younger religious congregations have other titles to refer to their superiors. The distinction is also one of canon law. PS: "Mother Superior" is not even a form of address for an abbess (that would be "Mother <religious name>" or simply "Mother") --Medusahead (talk) 08:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. The superior general is the head of an order. The mother superior is usually the head of an individual abbey, priory or other religious house within an order. I appreciate mother superior is mostly just a generic title rather than an official title, but it is a commonly used term and is no more synonymous with superior general than you're claiming it is with abbess. A separate article at this title would probably be fine (so write one!), but not a change in the redirect target. So long as there's no separate article, the redirect should remain as is. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:10, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I've created a new article, so maybe my enquiry is obsolete meanwhile. --Medusahead (talk) 09:34, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Mother superior as it's the new article made by nom, to cover the topic. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 10:58, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of Done

Not mentioned (or rather: not mentioned anymore) at the target page. Tea2min (talk) 10:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:01, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Either Remove as per WP:REDLINK, or Retarget, and Restore the removed section. Where to retarget? To the existing Done and Ready DABs, of course-- which should get linked to the relevant, restored parts of the original target article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lunamann (talk • contribs) 09:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. RfD can't be responsible for the content of an article. Currently the terms aren't mentioned, and because they are potentially ambiguous, without a mention the redirects are confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:37, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:19, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leonard Balsera

The name Leonard Balsera is not found in the target article. Recommend deletion of redirect. A draft BLP is pending AFC review. The alternative is to include a description of the work by Balsera on the game in the History section. Robert McClenon (talk) 08:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: @Robert McClenon: You saw on the draft that the guy worked on The Dresden Files Roleplaying Game right? Nobody (talk) 11:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    User:1AmNobody24 - Yes. The draft explains the connection, but the article doesn't. So if the draft is accepted, it makes the connection. If the draft is declined because he doesn't pass biographical notability, the article says nothing about him unless it is edited. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - the name does indeed appear in the target article as the author of the work. WP:NAUTHOR applies to Balsera as the author of a notable work, anyway, and redirecting to the work is a reasonable temporary measure pending him having a BLP article - and is also the approach recommended by policy. Newimpartial (talk) 19:20, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 08:01, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as per Newimpartial and Nobody. Assuming that Robert simply didn't see the infobox (where the name is listed), and didn't do a ctrl-F search for it, given it was there when the RFD post was made. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 10:21, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete (and make the mention in The Dresden Files Roleplaying Game a redlink, per Reason 10 "If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject." Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:35, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:18, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of "Cops/COPS/C.O.P.S." episodes

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

I know we just had a discussion for List of Cops episodes (and I participated in the respective discussion), but I made my comment in that discussion prior to noticing the existence of List of COPS episodes. The problem here is that WP:SMALLDETAILS probably does not differentiate the two topics enough, given that Cops (TV program) can be stylized as "COPS" and COPS (animated TV series) is apparently stylized as "C.O.P.S.". In addition, at Cop#Television, there are additional TV show/program subjects listed which include an inline list of episodes. So, with all that said, I'm not sure what is the best path here. (I've also added List of C.O.P.S. episodes for completion of this nomination so others know of its existence, but I'm "weak keep" on that per my previous statement about the "C.O.P.S." stylization; either way, List of C.O.P.S. episodes is a {{R with history}}.) Steel1943 (talk) 18:18, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Disambiguate with hatnotes at the target sections. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:02, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting for a stronger consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 04:18, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Villines

Released by Rangers last year; still a minor league free agent. Stephen Villines was deleted awhile back; there's nowhere for this to point and the current target does not mention him and likely never will again. Hog Farm Talk 03:06, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Phone

I'm not convinced that Telephone is the primary topic for this page. I think it is a competition between Telephone, Mobile phone, and Smartphone. I suggest a dab page for this one. Interstellarity (talk) 02:48, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep I think the hatnote is fine here. Ultimately, mobile phones and smartphones are just types of telephones (and are both linked from the current target). Worth noting that Phone (disambiguation) already exists for other potential definitions. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 03:17, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Presidentman. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:DABCONCEPT. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:DABCONCEPT as per Crouch and Presidentman. I'd argue that a smartphone is a type of PDA with the telephony features tacked on, but that's getting into weeds that we don't need to get into when discussing redirects-- the average layman would think of a smartphone as a type of mobile phone, and a mobile phone as a type of telephone. In that sense, DABCONCEPT applies, and the redirect should go to Telephone. Lunamann 🌙🌙🌙 The Moooooooniest (talk) 23:23, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Presidentman. Only in my dreams of a different world, landline should be the primary topic . — Godsy (TALKCONT) 17:16, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ramon Morla

Current redirect target is not useful; has not been in the Mariners system since 2016 per this and doesn't seem to have pitched professional since 2018 per Baseball Reference. There is no content about Ramon Morla on all of enwiki except for one bare mention at Baseball at the 2019 Pan American Games – Men's team rosters and given that that is only one facet of his career, I don't think that's a feasible retarget option. There's nowhere for this redirect to point. Hog Farm Talk 02:48, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Job growth

I think this target would be considered a surprise; with the way this redirect the structured, most likely someone looking up this phrase would be attempting to locate a article regarding an increase or decrease in jobs in an economy or country. From what I see, such information is not present in the target article, and I am not able to find an article with the aforementioned information. Steel1943 (talk) 00:02, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i suppose it's growth in the sense that being born makes you more grown-up than the average fetus, but would the actual act of "job growth" refer to promotion or employment-to-population ratio? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:43, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fascinating, I did not know the article Employment-to-population ratio existed until now. That would be the subject which I would think this redirect refers. Steel1943 (talk) 20:51, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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