Module talk:Country population

Static Row Numbers

Hey, Jts1882, would {{srn}} be useful in this module? — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 (talk) 21:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done

FYI, you can't just add templates or tags to wikitext output generated in a module, as they won't expand properly. You need to use frame:expandTemplate or frame:extensionTag

P.S. I don't think the template {{srn}} is a good idea. It's to short to make it clear what it does and looks like one of the short note citation template, which could confuse people. Better to use the full template name which gives an indication of what it is doing. —  Jts1882 | talk  08:56, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 (talk) 09:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Bottom alignment

Jts1882: Rows seem to be valigned to the bottom. I had a look at the code, and could only find bottom alignment for the header row, which is fine. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 (talk) 01:07, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Flaglist vs Flagcountry

Jts1882: Wouldn't {{flaglist}} be better for alignment than {{flagcountry}} here? — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 (talk) 01:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Template wrapper

I started a template wrapper for this module bc I wanted to pass the list of countries as a template (like the {{List of countries in South America}}), bc the MW engine processes modules before templates. The main function here is commented with called from template, but I got stuck passing through the arguments. Did you already create the template you referred to there, Jts1882, or can you help me beat that one into shape? Cheers. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 ☎ 08:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

The main() function wasn't doing anything. The module was using p.populations().

When a module is called directly from #invoke the arguments are in frame.args. The function p.populations() uses these frame arguments. I've split p.populations to have an entry point for invoke that gets the frame arguments and calls p._populations() to generate the table.

When called from a template the arguments are in the parent frame. I've changed main() to get the parent frame arguments and then call p._populations() so it now seems to work for the template. Not an ideal approach but an easy change for now. —  Jts1882 | talk  10:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Country	Projected population (16 May 2024)	Pct of total	UN Population estimates		Annual growth		Doubling time (years)
			1 July 2023	1 July 2022	Increment	Rate
Brazil	217,397,980	49.15%	216,422,446	215,313,498	1,108,948	0.52%	135
Colombia	52,270,723	11.82%	52,085,168	51,874,024	211,144	0.41%	171
Argentina	46,005,880	10.40%	45,773,884	45,510,318	263,566	0.58%	120
Peru	34,620,314	7.83%	34,352,719	34,049,589	303,130	0.89%	78
Venezuela	29,316,804	6.63%	28,838,499	28,301,696	536,803	1.90%	37
Chile	19,652,255	4.44%	19,629,590	19,603,733	25,857	0.13%	526
Ecuador	18,358,008	4.15%	18,190,484	18,001,000	189,484	1.05%	66
Bolivia	12,534,367	2.83%	12,388,571	12,224,110	164,461	1.35%	52
Paraguay	6,933,034	1.57%	6,861,524	6,780,744	80,780	1.19%	59
Uruguay	3,423,385	0.77%	3,423,109	3,422,794	315	0.01%	7,532
Guyana	818,332	0.19%	813,834	808,726	5,108	0.63%	110
Suriname	627,822	0.14%	623,237	618,041	5,196	0.84%	83
French Guiana	318,962	0.07%	312,155	304,557	7,598	2.49%	28
Falkland Islands	3,801	0.00%	3,791	3,780	11	0.29%	239
Total	442,281,666	100%	439,719,011	436,816,610	2,902,401	0.66%	105

I wonder what I need to do to get this to work:

Country	Projected population (16 May 2024)	Pct of total	Annual growth		Doubling time (years)
			Increment	Rate
Brazil	217,397,980	49.15%	1,108,948	0.52%	135
Colombia	52,270,723	11.82%	211,144	0.41%	171
Argentina	46,005,880	10.40%	263,566	0.58%	120
Peru	34,620,314	7.83%	303,130	0.89%	78
Venezuela	29,316,804	6.63%	536,803	1.90%	37
Chile	19,652,255	4.44%	25,857	0.13%	526
Ecuador	18,358,008	4.15%	189,484	1.05%	66
Bolivia	12,534,367	2.83%	164,461	1.35%	52
Paraguay	6,933,034	1.57%	80,780	1.19%	59
Uruguay	3,423,385	0.77%	315	0.01%	7,532
Guyana	818,332	0.19%	5,108	0.63%	110
Suriname	627,822	0.14%	5,196	0.84%	83
French Guiana	318,962	0.07%	7,598	2.49%	28
Falkland Islands	3,801	0.00%	11	0.29%	239
Total	442,281,666	100%	2,902,401	0.66%	105

Yeah, well, I know it works like that—{{Country populations|ARG|BOL|BRA|COL|PER|VEN|CHL|ECU|PRY|URY|GUY|GUF|SUR|FLK}}—but what I really wanted was:

{{Country populations|{{List of countries in South America|ISO=y}}}}

{{Country populations|{{List of countries in South America|ISO=y}}}}

The motive here is replicating the good work you did with {{Country populations}} to, say, {{Country areas}}, {{Country densities}}, etc, so that the list of countries in each region could be centrally maintained in a single template for each. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 ☎ 21:59, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

The problem there is that the result of that is to set parameter {{para|1|{{List of countries in South America|ISO=y}}}}.

I don't think you can use a template to supply a series of parameters. The solutions is to get the module to handle a list (e.g. comma delimited). If the module is handling it, then the lists may as well be stored in a subpage and be provided a via a parameter, e.g. |. —  Jts1882 | talk  08:24, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Country	Projected population (16 May 2024)	Pct of total	UN Population estimates		Annual growth		Doubling time (years)
			1 July 2023	1 July 2022	Increment	Rate
United States	341,497,796	56.66%	339,996,564	338,289,857	1,706,707	0.50%	138
Mexico	129,294,348	21.45%	128,455,567	127,504,126	951,441	0.75%	93
Canada	39,069,820	6.48%	38,781,292	38,454,327	326,965	0.85%	82
Guatemala	18,312,076	3.04%	18,092,026	17,843,908	248,118	1.39%	50
Haiti	11,848,510	1.97%	11,724,764	11,584,996	139,768	1.21%	58
Dominican Republic	11,424,947	1.90%	11,332,973	11,228,821	104,152	0.93%	75
Cuba	11,178,940	1.85%	11,194,449	11,212,191	−17,742	−0.16%	−438
Honduras	10,736,731	1.78%	10,593,798	10,432,860	160,938	1.54%	45
Nicaragua	7,133,168	1.18%	7,046,311	6,948,392	97,919	1.41%	50
El Salvador	6,390,044	1.06%	6,364,943	6,336,392	28,551	0.45%	154
Costa Rica	5,239,769	0.87%	5,212,173	5,180,829	31,344	0.60%	115
Panama	4,520,842	0.75%	4,468,087	4,408,581	59,506	1.35%	52
Jamaica	2,823,940	0.47%	2,825,544	2,827,377	−1,833	−0.06%	−1,069
Trinidad and Tobago	1,538,352	0.26%	1,534,937	1,531,045	3,892	0.25%	273
Bahamas	414,949	0.07%	412,624	409,984	2,640	0.64%	108
Belize	415,748	0.07%	410,825	405,273	5,552	1.37%	51
Barbados	282,312	0.05%	281,996	281,635	361	0.13%	541
Saint Lucia	180,596	0.03%	180,251	179,858	393	0.22%	318
Grenada	126,841	0.02%	126,184	125,438	746	0.59%	117
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines	103,481	0.02%	103,699	103,948	−249	−0.24%	−289
Antigua and Barbuda	94,769	0.02%	94,298	93,763	535	0.57%	122
Dominica	73,305	0.01%	73,040	72,738	302	0.42%	167
Saint Kitts and Nevis	47,840	0.01%	47,755	47,658	97	0.20%	341
Total	602,749,125	100%	599,354,100	595,503,997	3,850,103	0.64%	108

The above table is generated with {{Country populations|list=North America}}. The list of countries is stored in a table as follows:

	
local country_lists = {
  ['South America'] = { "ARG","BOL","BRA","CHL","COL","ECU","GUY","PRY","PER","SUR","URY","VEN","BVT","FLK","SGS","GUF" },
  ['North America'] = { "ATG","BHS","BLZ","BRB","CAN","CRI","CUB","DMA","DOM","GRD","GTM","HND","HTI","JAM","KNA","LCA","MEX","NIC","PAN","SLV","TTO","USA","VCT" },
  ['Arab countries'] = { "EGY","DZA","SDN","IRQ","MAR","SAU","YEM","SYR","TUN","JOR","ARE","LBN","LBY","PSE","OMN","KWT","MRT","QAT","BHR","DJI","COM" }
}

At the moment it is just a local variable in the function, but I suggest putting them in a subpage of the module. Then the subpage can be used by other modules. —  Jts1882 | talk  16:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Yep, that's useful. Unfortunately, the other aim I had in mind no worky — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 ☎ 06:05, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Bug

Something's gone awry with the module, Jts1882. Look at the missing 2nd figures column heading, and that the projected populations are lower than the latest (2019) estimate: List of African countries by population. Cheers. — Guarapiranga ☎ 03:20, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

The module gets the dates and data from List of countries by population (United Nations). You changed the section labels with this edit, so the date calculations no longer work correctly. You can also see that the first date column header is missing in List of African countries by population. —  Jts1882 | talk  07:09, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, and additionally in List of African countries by population, Guinea-Bissau is missing. Does anyone know what is causing this bug? I wasn't able to follow the explanation above. I can't see anything problematic in the UN source list. Cstanford.math (talk) 19:19, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Cstanford.math:. The section labels weren't set properly in the page with the population data (List of countries by population (United Nations)). I've set them now (with this edit) and the previous module version of List of African countries by population seems to work (you may need to display it in edit preview due to caching). —  Jts1882 | talk  07:22, 3 September 2021 (UTC)