Talk:19th century

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The article, IMHO, should be rewritten completely[edit]

The article should be a description of 19th century, not merely timeline of events and list of names of significant people (which should be moved to separate articles) . Main things which happened are more or less (probably I missed a lot):

  • Sciences
    • electromagnetic theory (Maxwell, Ohm etc.) which was considered useless when it was discovered, but later caused second industrial revolution
    • planetary model of atom; electrons
    • genetics (Mendel, Weismann)
    • evolution (Darwin)
    • Mendeleev table
    • Non-Euclidean geometry
    • Geographic discoveries
  • Technique
    • Bicycles
    • Trains and trams
    • Cars
    • Electricity
    • Water closets
    • Industrial revolution
    • First attempt to build a computer
  • Medicine
    • Aseptics and antiseptics
    • Microscope
    • Bacteries found
      • Tuberculosis and pneumonia found to be infectious diseases
    • Anesthesia
    • Cocaine and heroine
    • Prejudices of XIX century medicine (i. e. that masturbation causes blindness and mental insanity)
    • First hypotheses about viruses
    • A hypothesis that penicillum produces a substance which kills bacteria
  • Politics
    • Abolition of serfdom in Russia
    • Abolition of slavery in USA at the same time
    • Raise of communism (Marx, Lenin etc.)
    • Raise of political terrorism in Russia
    • Zionism
    • New countries: Germany, Greece, Italy, etc.
    • Democratic changes in many countries
    • Feminism: females get more rights; number of working females increase significantly; raise of feminist ideology
  • Wars
    • Civil war in USA
    • European wars
    • Wars between Russia and Turkia
  • Arts
    • Raise of the great Russian literature (Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Chekhov, ...)
    • Raise of science fiction as a genre (Jules Verne, H. G. Wells ...)
    • Visual arts...
    • Cinematography


This should, more or less, be the main structure of the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Urod (talkcontribs) 06:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC).

Although this post is more than a year old, the article has made almost no progress since then. I'm currently hoping to significantly improve the already good 20th century article with some help; maybe I (or ideally "we") could get around to start improving this article, which is basically just a giant list that gives absolutely no adequate overview of the century and its impact on the 20th century and is almost a pain to read. I'm not nearly as versed in 19th century history as I am 20th century history, but perhaps I could help. Prose and overviews are what I'm best at. bob rulz (talk) 10:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Ten years later ... - this is a decent outline. There should be a "wars" section (so the Napoleonic wars, etc. aren't in the timeline), a "science and technology" section (including medicine), and something on the arts. power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:34, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Still living people[edit]

The lead of the article says that "As of February 2015 there are only 10 people (all female) still alive who were born in the 19th century.". It is important to remember that this is only the people who are verified to have been born then. So rather than "only 10 people" it is "at least 10 people". How about changing this to "Among the people whose ages are verified by the Gerontology Research Group, as of February 2015 there are only 10 people (all female) still alive who were born in the 19th century."?Andreaseksted (talk) 23:20, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Since there has been no objections, I have gone ahead and made the proposed changesAndreaseksted (talk) 07:21, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Moved from the lead to another subsection of "people". I can see why this might belong in the article (although there are strong arguments against), but it should not be in the lead. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 10:09, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I've removed this completely. It's just trivia. power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:36, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

English/Euro bias?[edit]

I don't see a problematic amount of English/Euro bias. Once I add a few more sections (Meiji Restoration, Taiping Rebellion) I plan on removing the tag unless somebody objects. power~enwiki (π, ν) 06:44, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Famous and infamous personalities[edit]

I've removed this section; I don't see any plausible page to merge this to (or any list to create with this info), I'm posting it here in case anybody wants to do something with it. power~enwiki (π, ν) 22:24, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Harriet Tubman[edit]

@Modernist:. That's too much detail about one individual. Perhaps a short paragraph about the underground railroad in general could be added, but I's like to see it written before I could decide whether it might belong instead in 19th century in the United States. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:54, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

@Gap9551:Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:57, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Interesting. It's not in History of the United States (1849–1865), a slightly different 2-sentence paragraph is in History of the United States (1789–1849). If we're going to include anything here, that paragraph seems a better choice. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 20:40, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
  • As I mentioned Tubman's contributions and the Underground railroad are well understood to be important and critical additions in the development of the USA; during the mid to late 19th century. The paragraph should stay; although I agree that information should be added regarding the underground railroad...Modernist (talk) 21:26, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Inclusion of material about abolitionism in the United States should summarize this. At the detail level of this century summary we are probably looking at adding "During this period abolitionism in the United States grew in Northern states." to the third paragraph in that section. Many many people in abolition, not just Tubman. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 22:44, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

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