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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved. The arguments in opposition are not convincing nor apparently backed by any long-standing consensus in guidelines/policy. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 03:15, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I don't think the subtitles matter very much if that was all we had to go on, but the series has an official English localization from the manga, so it can safely be applied to the TV show as well. SnowFire (talk) 20:55, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The instructions given by Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films)#Foreign-language films are to (normally) give preference to the title the work has been released under in the English-speaking world. The only official releases of this drama in what the page defines as the English-speaking world are those on AsianCrush and Viki, which both title it Absolute Boyfriend. I haven't seen any evidence that it's ever been officially released under the romanized title Zettai Kareshi. From my reading of the rules that is what counts; what the source work that the drama is based on is released as in English isn't important. Though, in this case, whichever you go on, it supports the same move. (With the Korean drama it's more complex; it's released in the English-speaking West on Viki as just Absolute Boyfriend, but its English title in Korea and on Netflix in some Asian countries where people commonly speak English as a second language is My Absolute Boyfriend. But with this Japanese one there's no such ambiguity.) 2A00:23C7:5485:2C00:ADC5:E535:D119:466F (talk) 06:15, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Viki is primarily a Singaporean service, right? I'm not familiar with Asian Crush. Sometimes there's an "official" English version in Singapore or Taiwan or the like that is blatantly just "someone threw the title / script through Google Translate" and as such aren't a good indicator of how the work might be localized "for real."
While we agree on the result, I do think that "by analogy" localizations are fair. If there's a Japanese title with a manga, an anime, and a stage play, and the manga & anime are translated into English as some title, and the stage play has the same name as the manga / anime... we can safely translate the stage play the same way, since we really do have an official localization for the title even if not the specific work. It especially comes up in, say, series where some of the works but not all have English versions - Romance of the Three Kingdoms 12 not Sangokushi 12, say. SnowFire (talk) 21:37, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.