Talk:Acra (fortress)

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Seam[edit]

Re the DYK hook. 'Seam' seems an odd choice of words. I work in British archaeology and have worked in the Levant (Jordan) and Middle East - in all these areas we would call this a joint. Butted joints are what are shown here, where two separate builds butt against each other; bonded joints are where one build is older than the other but the masonry has been partially dismantled to allow the masonry to be rebuilt and bonded together ie interlapping blocks of masonry, not the straight joints such as can be seen in the photograph, as these are structurally less strong. But maybe 'seam' is an American archaeological term? 86.147.163.51 (talk) 17:43, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I have seen this called both a "straight seam" and a "straight joint" by different authors, though I haven't checked as to their nationalities. Jerusalem is in a seismic zone, and the joints have withstood some major earthquakes, including 1546 which destroyed the Dome of the Rock and other structures on the Mount and most recently a 6.3 in 1927 which killed hundreds. So there may be more integration inside the wall than is apparent from the facing stones. There have been articles and papers written on the 2 such joints in the eastern wall, so perhaps a Wiki article focusing on these might be in the future. I've no objection to changing "seam" to "joint" in the article, though I think it is preferable to reflect the source. • Astynax talk 18:20, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
A quick look at several sources shows that Bar-Kochva uses 'joint', Eilat Mazar and Samuel Rocca use 'seam' and EM Laperrousaz, L. Dequeker and Leen Ritmeyer use both. 'Seam' does seem more prevalent, and I do like it better since it's colloquial and more easily understood, but there no reason why the article can't say "the seam, or straight joint, ..." Poliocretes (talk) 21:01, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
That works for me. • Astynax talk 21:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Current peer review[edit]

The article is currently undergoing a Peer Review to identify improvements before listing it as a WP:FAC. • Astynax talk 19:10, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

November 2015 update[edit]

We likely will need a new photo in the infobox, as the current photo of the remains at the south wall of the Temple Mount were based on a theorized location, rather than the latest information. New geo location coordinates would also be good. The references also need to be cleaned up to preserve the current structure of short footnotes with full citations following. Since this article was written, templates such as sfn do a better job of linking the footnote to the full citation and are cleaner to use. If there is no objection, I'm willing to do the footnote conversion. I cannot help with a public domain image, however. • Astynax talk 07:59, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

I've replaced the photo in the infobox and fixed the coordinates. The rest of the text might also need some tweaking in light of the recent announcement, but I think we should wait for better references before overhauling it. Not everyone is in agreement. Poliocretes (talk) 05:38, 6 November 2015 (UTC)