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ssourcing and notability

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Please bear in mind subject is japanese and sources will likely be in japanese, not my mother tongue. Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL Dlohcierekim 13:35, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of "references"

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Here's a list of what were presented as "references" in the article:

  • Nippon Camera, Dec 2010; May, Dec. 2012; Apr. 2013; Jul, 2014; Oct. 2015; Jul., Nov. 2017
  • Asahi Camera, May 2013; Jul 2015; Jul 2017
  • Kyōto Shinbun, 27 Aug. 2017; 15 Sep. 2017; 19 Oct. 2018
  • Nihon Keizai Shinbun, 12 May 2013
  • Photo-eye book review
  • Asia-Pacific Photobook archive book review
  • Japan Professional Photographers Society bulletin Oct. 2017
  • Japan Photo Almanac 2018
  • Asahi Shinbun, 5 Oct. 2018
  • Mainichi Shinbun, 6 Oct. 2018
  • PHOTOSAI Autumn 2018 (vol. 22); Spring 2019 (vol. 24)

Rather a mishmash. Some are likely to be substantive, but in this form (no descriptions, no page numbers) they're of little use, so I've moved the list out of the article proper and into this talk page so that it may help future editors. -- Hoary (talk) 10:58, 4 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deletions from list of exhibitions

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This one:

  • In)(Between record vol. 20 "Takarabune", In)(Between art gallery (Paris), 2016.

is described here. Presumably it was a small exhibition, yet 34 photographers participated, so let's skip it. -- Hoary (talk) 00:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hasegawa's afterword to Nangokushō

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This Wayback scrape of a deleted page reproduces Hasegawa's afterword to Nangokushō. It's an interesting afterword indeed, but there's no mention of copyright. I've no compelling reason to think that its reproduction is legitimate. On the other hand, in his list of "articles", Fujiwara links to it; and surely he's aware of its content and approves of the reproduction. Unsure of what to do with the link, I leave it here in the talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 00:55, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 00:45, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting again after a mistaken pull from prep. Original promotion statement was as follows:
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 20:10, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

5x expanded by Hoary (talk). Nominated by Premeditated Chaos (talk) at 04:07, 6 August 2019 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article now 2996 characters (479 words), was 167 characters (26 words) on August 3. Source is in Japanese, but checks out according to my Google translation. I have one comment, there are nine paragraphs in the "Life and career" section, a number of which are 1-3 sentences and just start with the subject's name. Perhaps they can be incorporated into more complex sentences and longer paragraphs, i.e. "Fujiwara was born in Okayama City in 1963, but his family soon moved..." and so on. I also wasn't sure all the Template:Ill links were working, I don't have much experience with those. Good job overall! -- Patrick, oѺ 20:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the comments, Patrickneil. I've reduced the number of paragraphs by two. I'm not sure how best to respond to your comment about the Template:Ill links. Possibly you're unused to clicking on and using them, let alone verifying them. Let me explain via the example of "Sokyu-sha [Wikidata]". Years ago we might have written something like "Sokyu-sha (see this article in Japanese Wikipedia)", which is mildly horrid in several ways. If by contrast you click on "Sokyu-sha [Wikidata]" any time before anyone creates the English-language article, you're taken to Wikidata:Q11621542; in this, you look for "Wikipedia" and under that you click on "ja 蒼穹舎" or on any alternative that might have been created. (For all we know, next month some obliging francophone may create fr:Sokyu-sha.) If somebody does create the requisite English-language article, then some bot (I forget which) will soon come around and replace "Sokyu-sha [Wikidata]" with plain (and by now blue-linked) "Sokyu-sha". I hope that this makes sense and that I haven't misunderstood you; if any of the "Ill" links seems wonky, do please say so. -- Hoary (talk) 22:50, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, Kaijin Akashi is 1692 characters (279 words) and was created 3 days ago. I think a couple of those Wikidata links, like Sokyu-sha, have "No label definined" at the top of the page, which is why I wasn't 100% they were right, but that's not an issue for these articles or for DYK. Of the two I probably prefer ALT2, but they're very similar.-- Patrick, oѺ 14:29, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah ... I see what you mean about "No label defined". I'd like to offer to fix these; however, my limited experience there tells me that any decent attempt to fix an entry requires work on more entries, which requires work on more entries. (An entry for John Harding required two for the book American Independents [one for the work, one for the sole edition thereof], which required one for its editor Sally Euclaire, which required one for a humdrum Chicago Tribune article "Man's limestone building blocks: Landscape for the lens" -- each stage of which had me scrabbling around in Help pages, whose content I've now quite forgotten.) This is not something I'm going to get into in a rush before leaving home. (I realize that you're not asking me to do this.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:55, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For me, the problem with ALT2 is that it suggests that the leper colony Nagashima Aiseien Sanatorium was inspired by the poetry of Kaijin Akashi. As the reader proceeds to the end of the didjano, she realizes that this is implausible/impossible, and then has to parse it all a second time. That particular problem would be fixed by ... that the 2015 photobook ''Poet Island'' by '''[[Atsushi Fujiwara]]''' depicts the ruins of the [[leper colony]] [[Nagashima Aiseien Sanatorium]], where the poet '''[[Kaijin Akashi]]''' lived, wrote, and ultimately died in 1939? But this is poor because it fails to show any connection between (i) the book/photographer and (ii) the poet, other than the leper colony. So how about:
((a) A machine translator might infer that Akashi lived, wrote and died within the photobook (or the poetry); but I think we can trust human readers not to make such blunders. (b) If this text is a bit long, do we need both -- or indeed either -- of "ultimately" and "in 1939"?) ¶ Three or four hours from now RL will remove me from this website, to which I shan't return for around three days. -- Hoary (talk) 22:58, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I like ALT2a; I'll strike the others. ♠PMC(talk) 04:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]