Talk:David Greenglass
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[edit]" 1922 in New York City) was recruited into Soviet espionage by his wife, Ruth (Printz) Greenglass at the behest of his sister Ethel Rosenberg, and brother-in-law," shouldn't it be "at the behest of "her" sister? Take Care!--Will314159 17:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Artificial Diamonds?
[edit]The statement that he made "artificial diamonds" is unsourced. SYNTHETIC diamonds were first produced by General Electric during the early 50's, and required a great deal of industrial innovation which even G.E. was pressed to engineer. He lied about his involvement in espionage, it looks like this is another prevarication on his part. T.E. Goodwin 21:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ethel was David's sister, not Ruth's. --Fastfission 17:51, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Too neutral?
[edit]Can an article be too neutral? -Acjelen 05:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Do you have a specific complaint? --Fastfission 13:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- The final paragraph is too vanilla and safeguarded for the subject matter. One unfamiliar with the subject may have to read it several times before realizing its point. Nice additions would be: "He betrayed his sister" or "The United States put an innocent woman to death and allowed the real spy to live" -Acjelen 13:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think the last paragraph is just fine as it is -- it is clear from it what the meaning is. Your additions are rather polemical conclusions, and not necessarily the inevitable ones. The only cases when things are "too neutral", as I assume you mean, is when they give unwarranted weight to one conclusion over another, but that isn't the case in the example you've given. --Fastfission 15:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, those sentences are rather polemical. I would still like to see more weight given to his lying and to the differences between Greenglass's testimony and evidence from Soviet sources. -Acjelen 17:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- How he could betray his sister if she was innocent? Betray isn't the right word. Let's change it to "calumnied". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.19.146.84 (talk) 22:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC).
- Well, those sentences are rather polemical. I would still like to see more weight given to his lying and to the differences between Greenglass's testimony and evidence from Soviet sources. -Acjelen 17:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think the last paragraph is just fine as it is -- it is clear from it what the meaning is. Your additions are rather polemical conclusions, and not necessarily the inevitable ones. The only cases when things are "too neutral", as I assume you mean, is when they give unwarranted weight to one conclusion over another, but that isn't the case in the example you've given. --Fastfission 15:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- The final paragraph is too vanilla and safeguarded for the subject matter. One unfamiliar with the subject may have to read it several times before realizing its point. Nice additions would be: "He betrayed his sister" or "The United States put an innocent woman to death and allowed the real spy to live" -Acjelen 13:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
The information that Greenglass passed along was not very useful because he was a machinist- he happened to work on a very important part of the bomb but it was limited what he could pass- compared to what Fuchs passed. Greenglass did however get the information to the Soviets earlier than Fuchs sometimes. This fact is not clearly noted in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashujo (talk • contribs) 23:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Why the word "alleged" in the opening line? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashujo (talk • contribs) 22:05, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- I removed the word "alleged" from the opening. KGB files released since show that he was a spy and that he did transfer nuclear information. How valuable that information was is still a bit doubtful, but the point is that he was an atomic spy not a valuable one.... 71.103.120.122 (talk) 20:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
God bless the First Amendment!
[edit]After judge's refusal to publish, the testimonies will end up on wikileaks. 82.131.210.162 (talk) 10:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Greenglass's Address After Release
[edit]I too, lived in Laurelton not far from Greenglass; this family was regarded as strange; they kept to themselves and no one knew much about them.
I had a cousin who was two years older than me and he was friendly with a boy his own age who lived very close to the Greenglass house; it was only after all of us had moved away from the area (and this too, includes the Greenglass family) that my aunt revealed to me who lived in this house; my cousin's friend's father found out and this is how this was revealed to me.
When exactly the Greenglass's moved to this house and when they moved away is unknown to me; I lived in this community from 1963-71.
As a former Red Diaper Baby I feel qualified enough to comment on this, however if the politically-correct or even a more legitimate editor feels that I'm basically unqualified to make such a claim or that it simply doesn't belong in such an article, I will, of course, accept this; I realize that this is all anecdotal.
I recently photographed the house in order to send the pictures to Robert Meeropol; he is the younger son of the Rosenbergs.
I heard Mr. Meeropol speak twice at a local "Y;" it was during his second visit that I purchased a copy of his book, "An Execution in the Family: One Son's Journey."
(Unlike Mr. Meeropol, I have long jettisoned his "point of view" however I still do feel that the execution of his parents was both totally uncalled for and entirely unjustified.)
As he was graciously autographing my copy of his book, I worked up the courage to tell him about the house; I frankly didn't have the guts to do so in his previous "Y" appearance.
He looked up and directly at me and said quite crisply, "Creeped you out, didn't it?"
It still does . . .
Satchmo Sings (talk) 02:59, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Confusing Text in the Trial Section
[edit]Although I re-read it several times, I can't decipher one part of the article covering the trial. Was Bloch the defense attorney for Greenglass, or Rosenberg, or both? Was it, therefore, the Rosenbergs or Greenglass who made the motion to dismiss reporters during some testimony? Why was this considered a safe move on the part of the defense? AlRonnfeldt (talk) 23:49, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Woody Allen
[edit]In Woody Allen's 1989 film Crimes and Misdemeanors, David Greenglass' and his relationship to his brother is used as a cultural reference. Allen plays an independent documentary maker who has reluctantly accepted to make a documentary about his detested brother-in-law, a commercially successful television producer, played by Alan Alda. At the end of a monologue shoot Allen's character strikes up a conversation with one of the associate producers of the documentary series' which Alda's installment will be a part of, played by Mia Farrow.
Allen: Can I ask you the same question that I asked the producer: what do you bother with this guy for? I mean, he's such a pompous blow-up, and your show does such great profiles.
Farrow: Well listen, I'll tell you just between you and me: I wanted to do Gabriel García Márquez.
Allen: That's perfect.
Farrow: They like to mix it up. They like a little variety. After all, he is an American phenomenon.
Allen: Yeah, but so is acid rain.
Farrow: Boy! You really don't like him, do you?
Allen: I love him like a brother. David Greenglass.
It would be nice to see this included in the present article at some time. __meco (talk) 16:04, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
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Date of Greenglass discharge
[edit]The date of Greenglass's Army discharge is given as February 29, 1946, but 1946 was not a leap year and so there was not a February 29 that year. Would it please be possible to check the source? (I don't have a copy of Rhodes's excellent Making of the Atomic Bomb with me, but I think it is unlikely that he made that mistake.) Michaelaoash (talk) 23:21, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
It is in Rhodes (the H-Bomb book not the A-Bomb book). See p. 258 of Dark Sun https://books.google.com/books?id=rSgfbK0hi2UC&pg=PA258&lpg=PA258&dq=david+greenglass+%22february+29+1946%22&source=bl&ots=vVOv8HvD0X&sig=phEoRoP3UKtDhE1QDHaPI_zgqO4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJ3cqrzafTAhVhxoMKHbnKAx4Q6AEIJTAB#v=onepage&q=david%20greenglass%20%22february%2029%201946%22&f=false Could it be a mid-scan by Google Books (8 confused with 9)? Michaelaoash (talk) 23:26, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
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