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Merge?

@Rusted AutoParts: There's a section on the target page dedicated to nothing but the film. Another page of very similar scope to this one was redirected to it. Wouldn't a merge into that section, or at least a redirect if there is o good content here, make sense? Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 04:11, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Left you a message on your talk page. Building the draft works better in my opinion so we can flesh out what the article will look like. Rusted AutoParts 04:12, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Change American to Australian American

The movie was filmed in Queensland Australia which is why it can’t be solely American. Therefore, American needs to be changed to Australian American and the country section of the info box to be modified to include Australia. MetricSupporter89 (talk) 17:50, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just because the movie is shot in Australia, doesn't mean it's also an Australian film. — FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 19:09, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well either ways it will need to be changed to Australian American and the country section to show Australia as well. MetricSupporter89 (talk) 22:53, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well by your logic one could also argue it has to be written in British English because the director is English. But this is nominally a property of American origin. ViperSnake151 Talk 15:26, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't work like that, it's only filmed in Australia. All the pre and post production is American based. It's unlike Mad Max Fury Road which was produced in both Australia and US, allowing for both countries to be mentioned

Semi-protected edit request on 15 March 2019

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Haley Tju played the voice of Isa the Iguana in the Nickelodeon original film Dora the Explorer (film). 212.129.82.206 (talk) 17:03, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Caleb McLaughlin played the voice of Tico the Squirrel in the Nickelodeon original film Dora the Explorer (film).

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 09:35, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

College Humor Parody Video?

Should College Humor's parody series be mentioned? Maybe in some kind of "pop culture" reference section? MerlinPatt (talk) 23:56, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No. --Babar Suhail (talk) 07:25, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 March 2019

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Thue (talk) 08:34, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dora the Explorer (film) → Dora and the Lost City of Gold – I do not see why the move last week was reverted. The Lost City of Gold appears to be the official title, as it is on the poster and throughout promotional material. JE98 (talk) 14:54, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This article was moved, probably through a WP:RM/TR, to the proposed title already. I have moved it back to it to it original title, as per WP:STATUSQUO, until this WP:RM discussion has concluded. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:40, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – It's less important what its "official title" is, and more important how secondary sources are referring to it. Can somebody round up some strong reliable secondary sources using the "new" title?... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:41, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly agreed - [1] [2] [3] and so on, the title has been announced officially through poster release [4]. No need to revert back to old name. Thanks! M. Billoo 16:46, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) It's probably best to wait until it premieres or is released in theaters—I'm not following this, so I'm not sure how it's being released. Then we can go off of the logo, as logos are the authoritative source on what a TV series, film, etc. is called. For example, if there's an ampersand instead if "and," we use the ampersand. Amaury (talk | contribs) 16:46, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Except titles can change between when promotional posters are released and the actual film is released. If a film is titled Apple and Orange on a promotional poster, but as Apple & Orange in the film's official logo when it premieres, we go with the latter. Amaury (talk | contribs) 16:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Even then, not necessarily – there plenty of films where we don't go with the (exact) onscreen title: The Empire Strikes Back being one of the most prominent examples... IOW, it really does depend on the WP:COMMONNAME, and that isn't necessarily readily apparent immediately after an "official title change"... I agree that it's actually best to wait until closer to a film's release before monkeying around with page moves based on title changes, because you actually want to see how Variety, et al. refer to the film. (And, on that score, the Forbes source cited above is actually good evidence... But more is probably needed.) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:56, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect – moving after a WP:RM has been initiated is an "out of process move". This film doesn't open until August, so letting a proper WP:RM play out is the correct course of action, and this clearly falls under WP:NOHURRY. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:56, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. Since the film's release is five months in the future (August 19) and all currently issued posters indicate the title as Dora and the Lost City of Gold, then that should be the main header of this film's Wikipedia article. When the film is finally released, if its on-screen title depicts a different form, the main header of the article should be again moved. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:07, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per reliable sources writing about this film's more detailed title. Searching "dora the explorer movie" brought up this title. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 17:34, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly support for reasons given above. This far out, if it changes again it can be moved again; IMO it would be stupid to wait till its release just for that reason. --RBBrittain (talk) 21:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Which is exactly why we wait, because so many things can change between the point A and point B, point B being when something officially premieres or is officially released. Amaury (talk | contribs) 22:05, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at the least, I don't think there's any good reason to move an article like this immediately after the title is changed – I definitely thinks it makes sense to wait some weeks or months first to see how things shake out, esp. as this film won't be released for months and the "new title" already exists as a redirect. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:52, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with your statement, IJBall. You see, “Dora the Explorer” was never confirmed as an official title, articles and such just used that because the film adapts from the series of the same name. Also, we shouldn’t be waiting, we have to give the information as shown immediately. We can update it if the time ever comes, although it seems unlikely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamnoahflores (talk • contribs) 00:48, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

...we have to give the information as shown immediately. Says who, the information police? See WP:NOHURRY, since Wikipedia is meant to be more of an archive of past stuff. Amaury (talk | contribs) 02:00, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please see all of WP:NOTNEWS, WP:OFFICIALNAME and the aforementioned WP:NOHURRY, each of which applies to what you are claiming... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:26, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As I said before, Dora the Explorer was never its official title; secondary sources just called it that.

Support I don't know why there even needs to be a discussion for this? The posters reveal that the title is "Dora and the Lost City of Gold". --Babar Suhail (talk) 11:26, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support 71.86.183.239 (talk) 11:28, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now. See my statements above, including WP:NOHURRY. Amaury (talk | contribs) 13:29, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Guys how bout this if at least the trailer says it or even this trailer tease released BY Nickelodeons Twitter! It is the title quit doing this and just take care of it! https://twitter.com/i/status/1109183784388317184 Jstar367 (talk) 22:38, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Let’s make a deal. Tonight, March 23, 2019 is the KCAs. Once the official trailer comes out, we will go by title said in the trailer. That way we have followed “no hurry”, and we will have extra support on either side. Seriously tho, why is one person controlling this whole thing. It’s many votes against one. We should’ve done this sooner.

Support. The trailer is out and uses this name. Shouldn't be controversial at this point. Nohomersryan (talk) 01:02, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy move Clearly the official name. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 03:12, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It’s beating a dead horse at this point, but the poster, trailer and press release info all say "Dora and the City of Gold". TropicAces (talk) 04:36, 24 March 2019 (UTC)tropicAces[reply]
I moved it, by obvious consensus. How is it even a talk page discussion whether the page should be moved to the actual film title? Thue (talk) 08:33, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned references in Dora and the Lost City of Gold

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Dora and the Lost City of Gold's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "opening":

From Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark (film): D'Alessandro, Anthony (March 25, 2018). "Does 'Pacific Rim: Uprising' Break Even At The Global B.O.?; 'Black Panther' Sets Marvel Record – Sunday Postmortem". Deadline Hollywood. Penske Business Media. Retrieved March 25, 2018.
From Wonder Park: D'Alessandro, Anthony (March 17, 2019). "'Captain Marvel' Rises To Second Best 2nd Weekend In March With $69M+ – Sunday AM Update". Deadline Hollywood. Retrieved March 17, 2019.
From Monster Trucks (film): "'Hidden Figures' Stays Smart, But Why Are So Many Movies Bombing Over MLK Weekend?". Deadline Hollywood.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:33, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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There is a cite error because it was meant to be "opening". JulienJeon77 (talk) 13:31, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: removed the broken reference although it's not clear to me how it should be replaced. Melmann 14:32, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Plotline

The movie is now in it's fourth day of release. Do you think someone could add a plot or at least indicate that the plot section needs to be expanded? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.197.203.54 (talk) 16:50, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm surprised the article doesn't touch on the harmful tropes typically exhibited in the genre that this film avoids

A huge number of 'treasure hunting' films are often based on imperialism and the marginalization of non-US cultures etc. (E.g. Temple of Doom, Romancing the Stone) Much of the critical discourse I experienced around this particular film was that, by and large, it avoids many of these harmful tropes. I'm surprised this point is absent from the article. This point was covered in detail by e.g. The Bechdel Cast, but surely some other publications have covered it too. Neuroxic (talk) 14:51, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]