Talk:Frank Moore (performance artist)

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Arts Wire CURRENT Volume#10 No. #34
Timeline Of NEA 4 Events - C. Carr
Interview with a Presidential Candidate: Frank Moore arabianmonkey.com 7/4/2007
Hooligan Magazine, November 2010 the Russian magazine's 2010 article about Frank Moore. pg. 80.
Other articles about and interviews with Frank Moore
R.I.P. Frank Moore June 25th 1946 – October 14th 2013: American Hero, Revolutionary Artist, Wounded Healer & Great LUVeR - Dr. Susan Block
"We Misfits Are Still Needed": A Performance Conversation with Frank Moore - Audrey Rubinstein, Adobe Airstream

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Requested move

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Frank Moore (artist) → Frank James Moore (artist) — There are many Frank Moores. We have both Frank Moore (artist) and Frank Moore (candidate), who are the same man, and several others. We should make him easier for our readers to identify. The candidate redirect should become Frank James Moore (candidate). To convince yourself there is a problem, go look at Frank Moore (disambiguation). —EdJohnston 02:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Rename to Frank james Moore which is sufficient by itself. Redirects from Frank Moore (artist) and Frank Moore (candidate) Alternatively,Frank Moore (artist) with redirects from the other two, but the point of the afd was that the main article should not be Frank Moore (candidate), at which he is presently much less notable. If be does become president, we can change this. DGG (talk) 04:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Frank James Moore, per DGG. I agree that we should redirect Frank Moore (artist) and Frank Moore (candidate) to the new article. EdJohnston 21:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Per Eroplay's comment below, I suggest adding a redirect Frank Moore (performance artist) -> Frank James Moore. Otherwise it will look a bit unusual to have an article discussing presidential candidates referring to him as Frank Moore (performance artist). I suppose we could always pipe the link in a case like that, as in Frank Moore. EdJohnston 03:32, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Frank Moore (performance artist) with redirects to it from Frank James Moore and Frank Moore (candidate). Rename Frank Moore (disambiguation) as Frank Moore. Redirect Frank Moore (artist) to Frank Moore. Rationale, 1) the performance artist/candidate is not commonly known by his middle name; 2) there is no primary topic, so the disambiguation page should be at the simple title; 3) there are two Frank Moore's who were artists. older ≠ wiser 13:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support rename to Frank Moore (performance artist) per Bkonrad (older ≠ wiser), not finding any references on the web that call this man Frank James Moore. Someone has already changed Frank Moore to be a disambiguation page so that part of the plan is already addressed. EdJohnston 20:56, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

We don't seem to have any articles that would go into the disambiguation page but this one. Could you point to them? Corvus cornix 03:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at Frank Moore (disambiguation) there are five men there, and that's without including either Frank Moore (artist) or Frank Moore (candidate). Plus there is a now-deceased painter named Frank Moore, who was also an artist. (He is *the* Frank Moore currently). So something needs to be tidied up. One way is to start using middle names. EdJohnston 03:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How about moving this to Frank Moore (performance artist). Corvus cornix 04:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Corvus cornix's idea sounds great! Frank Moore is not really known by his middle name, but is well known as a performance artist. It sounds great to move the article to Frank Moore (performance artist) Eroplay --71.141.234.169 03:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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This article has been renamed from Frank Moore (artist) to Frank Moore (performance artist) as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 06:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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No proof of Moore's notability as a presidential candidate

The only evidence provided in the article for Moore's role as a candidate is the interview found on http://www.arabianmonkey.com. The latter is not a famous web site known to have any editorial review process, in fact it is probably self-published by the owner of the site. Until there are mentions of Moore's candidacy by reliable sources, I think WP:N should make us take the article out of the various 'candidate' categories. So long as he is just a candidate in his own mind, he is not notable. If the press notices him, or other people seem to take him seriously, I would put the information back. Please comment if you have opinions. EdJohnston 19:08, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: The participants in the recent AfD also seemed to doubt Moore's notability as a candidate. That was part of the reason for changing the name of the article to the current one, which identifies him as a performance artist rather than a candidate. EdJohnston 19:12, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction

Moore "is unable to...talk", but he "sings in ensemble music jams", the article claims. I don't know how one can't talk but they can sing. Please explain. --UberScienceNerd _{Talk Contributions} 23:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention giving poetry readings. I removed the bit about him being unable to talk because it was unsourced and, as you said, contradicts his listed accomplishments. Stonemason89 (talk) 02:34, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank's singing is non-verbal, he makes vocal sounds. He communicates by means of a laser-pointer on a letter/word board, frequently read aloud by his longtime companion, Linda Mac. At the poetry readings, he has others, often audience members doing the actual reading. 24.34.135.124 (talk) 15:58, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Qualified write-in candidate?

What's a "qualified write-in candidate"? I didn't think you need to do anything to qualify. I have written in candidates several times in several elections. Sometimes, there was an organized effort to promote a write-in campaign; other times, I just wrote someone in (and I might have been the only person to do it).
Either way, I don't think there's anything you have to "qualify" as a write-in candidate. Get someone in a state to write you in, and you're a write-in candidate.
This is one of quite a few things in this article that make it read more like a resume--designed to promote the subject. Uporządnicki (talk) 14:01, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of tags

The removal of the tags from 2007 and 2013, both referring to lack of citations for purposes of verification, have now been removed. Now that the page has 22 inline citations and a large list of references, these tags no longer seem necessary. Aleximalenky (talk) 03:01, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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