Talk:Gloucester

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Spelling vs. pronunciation[edit]

Does anyone know why the spelling of the name is so different from the pronunciation? There is an explanation of the etymology in the article but no explanation of the unusual pronunciation. If anyone has any sources to shed light on this, I think it would be worth adding. --Smcg8374 (talk) 07:10, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

See Chester (placename element). Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:34, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Leicester is equally unexpected, I think. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:30, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes, it follows the pattern of Leicester, Bicester, etc. Hogyn Lleol ★ (chat) 16:34, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
The spelling and sound are logical and follow sound change. The town's Old English name is Glaiw Ceaster (glaw chester) which over time has dropped the "ch" syllable due to the nearby "es" syllable under the influence of haplology, and the long vowel sound of "aw" has shifted to "o". As indicated in responses above, this follows normal patterns in English. SilkTork ✔Tea time 17:50, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Is the final r really pronounced? I would have expected /ɡlɒstə/. --ABehrens (talk) 04:04, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

It's not pronounced in standard RP, so I think you are right. The final r is pronounced in the local accent, so that might explain why someone has seen fit to add it. I remember the days when railway station announcements were made live by local staff, and you always heard the 'piratey' rhotic sound in "Gloucester, this is Gloucester", when you arrived by train. William Avery (talk) 08:27, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
It seems that the reader is supposed to know whether they pronounce the 'r' or not. See Help:IPA_for_English#Dialect_variation. William Avery (talk) 08:57, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

St. Pauls--district of Gloucester[edit]

The link leads to the St Paul (disambiguation) page--which does not mention St Pauls in Gloucester.

Greater explanation would be appreciated for Gloucester District as established in 1974, separating it from discussion of the pre-1974 city.

--Oldontarian (talk) 14:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Gloucester Waterways Museum[edit]

Gloucester docks now houses the Gloucester Waterways Museum and not the National Waterways Museum which 'moved' to Ellesmere Port [1] it was more of change in designation rather than an actual phyiscal movement of one to the other. I have no experience of editing a wiki so will leave that to someone else! 143.167.191.86 (talk) 11:43, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing that out. I have changed the link. William Avery (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

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The West Country Challenge[edit]

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Quedgeley becoming a town[edit]

I have removed the cross and section to do with Quedgeley being a parish council within Gloucester's borders since being a town now as of 24 April 2017 but I am considering to change it to the only town (if it is), Within the borders of the city. I would like someones opinion on it. See here: - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gloucester&type=revision&diff=777310222&oldid=777308493 D Eaketts (talk) 08:37, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Gloster[edit]

There's nothing in the article about the spelling 'Gloster'. When was it spelt this way, and why did it change? Could someone add this information? Obscurasky (talk) 12:45, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Do you have any sources? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:57, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
[1] This website describes it as an obsolete spelling, although that could be a little misleading. There are examples (Shakespeare) of the current spelling in archaic use and it seems more likely that, for a period, both spellings were considered acceptable before the alternative 'Gloster' became obsolete. Obscurasky (talk) 17:26, 13 June 2017 (UTC)