Talk:Hey Violet

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Cherri Bomb vs. Hey Violet

Hi Kokoro20. The reason for my edits on the Hey Violet page is that the band are indeed a new band with new music and a new start. The band themselves cited this on their Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/heyvioletofficial/posts/794343460603450?comment_id=797047460333050&offset=0&total_comments=40). The current content on the Hey Violet page focuses upon a genre of music and history that no longer pertains to the new direction that the band have gone. My edits acknowledge the history of Cherri Bomb but they also underline the fact that Hey Violet are a new band with a new sound - this new direction and sound is the present and future of the band. My opinion is that the current content on the Wikipedia focuses too much on their Cherri Bomb past and does not address the significance of their name change and new music. They are no longer a "hard rock" band and Julia Pierce, who has not been a part of the band for the last two years and has had absolutely no involvement with Hey Violet, should not be a primary focus in the article. Please could we try to agree to come to a general consensus on this? F1rdaus22 (talk) 10:01, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

First of all, please make a new section when posting a new topic on the talk page. I went ahead and did that for you now.

Yes, I figured that was the reason, but their history as Cherri Bomb still should be acknowledge, including genres, discography and other stuff. They have yet to release any music as Hey Violet, so no one knows what genre they are under that name. Until then, best keep it solely at the two currently listed. If pop rock (the genre you were trying to put in there) can be sourced once they release some music as Hey Violet, it can be added, but not to replace the other genres. Even if they were no longer hard rock, it doesn't mean they were never hard rock. For the discography section, perhaps we should added a note saying "(as Cherri Bomb)" beside the one album and EP they released under that name? The article still focuses a lot on Cherri Bomb, because not much has happened with Hey Violet yet. Once they release some music as Hey Violet and stuff, maybe that will change. Kokoro20 (talk) 12:04, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2015

Tours

Tour name	Participating bands	Continent/Country	Participating from - to
Reading and Leeds Festivals	Festival Republic Stage	United Kingdom	26-28 August 2011
Warped Tour 2012	Kevin Says Stage	North America	13 July - 5 August 2012
Lostprophets with Cherri Bomb	Lostprophets, Cherri Bomb	North America	7−14 August 2012

Sovnation (talk) 01:12, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --I am k6ka ^{Talk to me!} _{See what I have done} 02:12, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Cherri Bomb vs. Hey Violet 2

Hi Kokoro20. Hey Violet's new track 'This Is Why' is definitely not hard rock so please can we change the genres listed on the page? I would say it was more pop rock. Julia leaving the band also shouldn't be the main focus of Hey Violet's page, it should be about the band as they are now. Her leaving the band should only be mentioned under the History Section and not be repeated at the top of the article. Let's change the first section to this.

Hey Violet are a pop rock band from Los Angeles, California.The band consists of Nia Lovelis (drums/vocals), Rena Lovelis (bass/lead vocals), Miranda Miller (bass/keyboard/vocals) and Casey Moreta (lead guitar).

The following bands started off under different names and their old set up isn't mentioned right at the beginning: U2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U2), Libertines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Libertines), Radiohead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiohead) Can we change the beginning section to what I have suggested and leave the history section to what you would like as a deal? I think this would be fair? F1rdaus22 (talk) 17:23, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Hey there. I've heard the song now, and it sounds like a mixture of pop rock and pop punk to me. It's a bit early to be judging their new sound by just one sound, but I went ahead and added both pop rock and pop punk with sources anyway, as well as updating other things. But alternative rock and hard rock should be staying as well, since that's what they used to be known as. As for Julia Pierce leaving, the lead should be a summary of the band's history, as she was significant to the band, even though she's no longer with them. But I just changed the beginning of the lead to mention who the current members are anyway. Kokoro20 (talk) 22:51, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2016

LOLAmo (talk) 10:00, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 10:18, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Miranda Miller and Nia Lovelis are currently in a relationship together, their ship name being Niranda

Reliable source: Miranda states it on twitter HeyVioletRT (talk) 22:14, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Miranda Miller and Nia Lovelis are currently in a relationship together, their ship name being Niranda

Reliable source: Miranda states it on twitter HeyVioletRT (talk) 22:14, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Hey Violet past

You should add that they had an old name before Cherri Bomb "Red Shadow" and they had a different bassist before Rena "Marianna Vartanyan" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finalsp00n (talk • contribs) 02:38, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2016

The description that Hey Violet is an American rock band should be changed to American pop band because their sounds are very common and is aimed at a younger/ commercial audience. As seen live, many of the sounds heard in their music is not played by instruments but rather "cooked up" by a computer which is found in pop music.

Elvieanna (talk) 01:45, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: The genres tie to the Allmusic profile. If you think genres apply, you need to show where multiple reliable sources put them in that genres. —C.Fred (talk) 01:50, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Niranda

Miranda Miller and Nia Lovelis are currently in a relationship together, their ship name being Niranda

Reliable source: Miranda states it on twitter HeyVioletRT (talk) 22:16, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Iain Shipp

Iain Shipp is had officially joined the band on September 18, 2016 . HeyVioletRT (talk) 02:17, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Associated act

Should 5 Seconds of Summer really be listed as associated ? Is the association just that they are signed to their record label ? -- Beardo (talk) 21:55, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

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New band or just a name change?

I know there's already two more sections discussing this; however, I feel as if it's a bit dated, so here it is. I am just wondering if Hey Violet is a name change, or a new band? As the sources provided from above some people seem to agree that it is a new band. Even on their merch (LP, CD, etc...) they seem to call the Hey Violet album as their debut album (source). – 2001:8003:20EB:200:3D77:284E:159C:2416 (talk) 21:28, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Cherri Bomb vs Hey Violet (3) — yes, this again

Just stumbled across this article, having very little context, and this seems be a common topic so apologies if I'm re-treading something. However, it seems to me that we can't just wipe their history as "Cherri Bomb" off the page (to the extend of saying "Formed in 2015 from members of a previous band", but not even giving a name). The latest edits remove all references to Cherri Bomb but:

• This Is the End of Control still links to the Hey Violet page, and is linked from Hey Violet discography.
• Cherri Bomb still redirects here.
• The Band members section lists a timeline starting prior to the apparent 2015 founding of "Hey Violet".

I don't really have a strong opinion on whether they are the same band or not (though in the video they announce a "new name" rather than a "new band"), but it seems to me that if we are treating them as separate bands then we need to split them onto separate pages rather than just purging all history of "Cherri Bomb" from this page and leaving readers confused.

I am reverting back to the version of the article that makes sense to an uninformed reader and hoping we can come to a consensus one way or the other.--Hazel77 ^talk 04:46, 31 January 2019 (UTC)