Talk:Home Alone

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Former good article nominee Home Alone was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Kevin's family is Scottish[edit]

Happy New Year. Marv is Jewish as in "Home Alone 2" he said, "Happy Hanukkah Marv." when he and Harry robbed "Duncan's Toy Chest". Kevin's family is Scottish. If somebody's last name begins with Mc it's an indication that they're Scottish American. The neighborhood that Kevin's family lives in is a hint that they're Upper Middle Class. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.68.211.187 (talk) 02:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Correction. Mc is also found in Irish last names e.g. McGuire and McGuinness. (Tk420 (talk) 19:49, 28 September 2013 (UTC))

I have removed these additions. They constitute WP:OR. We can't speculate about fictional character's backgrounds. It is also trivial, if the writers didn't think it was important enough to mention that they were Scottish why should we mention it here? --Leivick (talk) 23:28, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Highest Grossing Live Action Comedy?[edit]

I recall reading somewhere that Meet the Fockers was the highest grossing live action comedy. Box Office Mojo seems to support this theory. Home Alone on BOM and Meet the Fockers on BOM DanielDPeterson (talk) 09:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

With a little more research, the article that claims it is the highest-grossing comedy of all time says it made $533 mil, more than Meet the Fockers (at $516 mil). However, BOM (which I would consider a much more reliable source) says that Home Alone made $476 mil. DanielDPeterson (talk) 04:46, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress which affects this page. Please participate at Talk:Home Alone - Requested move and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 22:01, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Matthew R Dunn (talk · contribs) 16:48, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I will conduct the review shortly. -- Matthew RD 16:48, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Criteria[edit]

  1. Well written:   Fail.
  2. Sources:   Fail
  3. Broadness in coverage:   Fail. The article seems a little too short.
  4. Neutral: From what I've seen, nothing is bias.  Pass
  5. Stability: Quite a lot or reversions, but only due to IP edits. No serious edit wars though.  Pass
  6. Images: One non-free image with appropriate tags and fair use rationale. I'm not sure about this image though, it does not have a proper fair use rationale.

Comments[edit]

  • The lead mentions Culkin won an award, but it isn't mentioned in the reception section. The lead section should summarise the full article.
  • The production section is short, as per the tag. All the production info is on the filming side. Isn't there anything on the casting? Writing? How the film was conceived?
  • 3.5 bathrooms?
  • I think the reception could do with a few more reviews. This article lists six reviews, but according to Rotton Tomatoes there are 40. A few more can't hurt
  • There is an awful lot of content that is unsourced. I have editing in the citation needed tags on the end of each parapgraph that isn't referenced.
  • What's the publisher and author name of Ref #2?
  • Same with Ref #3
  • Quite a lot of the refs do not have the author's names (though some may not have them included in the page itself) or proper publishers.
  • Ref #13 is dead.

I'm afraid that's a fail. There are quite a few unsourced content and the production section is lacking. I also noticed that the nominator did not actually edit this article recently, which is not a good sign. After the comments are taken care of, take it to be peer reviewed again (last one was in 2008 and it was not a helpful one), then you may renominate it. -- Matthew RD 16:20, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

List of films featuring home invasions[edit]

I added a "See also" section containing List of films featuring home invasions to the article but was reverted by Bbb23, who said it is not a home invasion. In the list article, this film is backed by this among other home invasion films. I think that the interpretation here is too strict; even if one Googles for "home alone" "home invasion", one sees incidents labeled as home invasions even with just kids home alone. Even this says, "For one sequence, the movie becomes a cat-and-mouse cartoon and a lampoon of home-invasion thrillers." I excluded it from the list before, but that and The Ref are both referenced as humorous takes on the subject matter. I think it should be included here and on the list article. Erik (talk | contribs) 01:29, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Per our article, home invasions are crimes in which someone enters an occupied house to commit some kind of violent crime against the occupant. This is clearly distinguished from burglary, for example, where someone enters a house, occupied or not, with the intention of stealing something from the house. The Wet Bandits' modus operandi is to enter vacant homes, not even occupied homes. However, even after they realize the home is occupied, the reason they enter anyway is because they know Kevin is alone and a child. However, there is no indication that their intent is to commit violence. Those people who call this home invasion are using the term very loosely, and I don't think it applies. However, I don't feel strongly about this, and if there's a consensus to restore the See also, that's fine. Thanks, Erik, for bringing it to the talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:29, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Bbb23, I restored the "See also" section and referenced The Baltimore Sun to explain the lampooning. Per WP:SEEALSO, we can include links to a tangential topic. In addition, at List of films featuring home invasions, I added a note using the same reference, identifying Home Alone as a kind of special case. Would that setup work? Any suggestions to change to something else? EDIT: It's possible that the Sun is referring to the end of the film where the burglars chase Kevin into another home? Erik (talk | contribs) 16:04, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
At this point, Erik, these are mushy judgment calls. As I don't feel that strongly, I'd rather let others decide the issues. If no one objects, then your latest edits will stand. Mostly I watch this article because it's a magnet for disruption, and your edits, of course, don't fall into that category.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:29, 15 June 2013 (UTC)