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Did you know... that two hagiographic documents about St. Hunegund of France publicized Hunegund's miracles to create a sense of identity in Homblières and to raise money for the monastery?
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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 03:15, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
... that St. Hunegund of France was buried in an unmarked grave due to fear that it would be targeted by marauders? Source: Jo Ann McNamara (1996). Sisters in Arms: Catholic Nuns Through Two Millennia, p. 173
ALT1:... that two hagiographic documents about St. Hunegund of France served to unite her community and bind it to powerful religious authorities? Source: Edward M. Schoolman (2016). Rediscovering Sainthood in Italy: Hagiography and the Late Antique Past in Medieval Ravenna, p. 146
ALT2:... that 200 years after her death, St. Hunegund of France punished farmers who refused to celebrate her feast by causing their grain to drip with blood? Source: McNamara, p. 173
Interesting story, on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I like ALT1 best because it clearly states the hagiography of much of what we know about her, which ALT2 doesn't. - Curious: why do you say "saint" in the infobox but "St." in the hooks? Why do you say "saint" before "nun" while chronology suggests she was a nun and convent founder first? Why do say "Roman" which is a redirect? - Also waiting for the qpq. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would make sense to run this 25 August. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 19 July 2021 (UTC)\[reply]
I'm fine with using ALT1. I used "St." in the hook for a silly and simple reason: it's shorter. It doesn't really save that many characters, so we can spell out "Saint" if you like. I say "saint" before "nun" because it's a tradition (har-har Catholic joke) in saint articles to use the most important descriptor first, and everyone's agreed that being a saint is more important than being a nun. Plus, it's impossible to be a saint first because most saints are declared thus, regardless of the process or time it took, after their deaths. In other words, it's impossible for one to become a nun after one becomes a saint. (Please, always keep that in mind, har-har). Are you talking about the "Roman" in "Roman Catholic Church"? Again, that's just tradition-tradition! (Har-har, American musical joke.) I can change it if you like. I totally agree with running it on Aug. 25; I didn't catch that it's Hunny's feast day, so thanks. (I've come to call her that in my mind because I'm not sure how it's pronounced, so please forgive me if I'm being disrespectful.) And thanks for the review. Sorry for the QPQ delay; that's what you get when you've got too many DYKs in the fire. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 22:12, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for making me laugh a few times! ... and for educating me about sainthood, something I'm far from, har-har. In our area, Hildegard of Bingen was venerated long before she was officially named a saint, centuries after her death, - Rome is very slow ... - We simply say katholisch, and not römisch-katholisch unless very official, - that's just my background. No idea how her name would have been pronounced back then, Hunny-nunny makes sense, like honey. - Now to work: it's - afaik - a saint, but Saint Hunegund, when using it as kind of a title, which I'd expect in the infobox. - I was behind 6 qpq until yesterday, no need to say sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ha, St. Hunny-nunny, I love it! Glad I was able to give you some chuckles. Canonization depends upon the saint and a bunch of other things; for example, saints like Pope John Paul II and Mother Teresa were fast-tracked. But we're all saints, really. Thanks again for the review. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:22, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting story, on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I like ALT1 best because it clearly states the hagiography of much of what we know about her, which ALT2 doesn't. - Curious: why do you say "saint" in the infobox but "St." in the hooks? Why do you say "saint" before "nun" while chronology suggests she was a nun and convent founder first? Why do say "Roman" which is a redirect? - Also waiting for the qpq. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for making me laugh a few times! ... and for educating me about sainthood, something I'm far from, har-har. In our area, Hildegard of Bingen was venerated long before she was officially named a saint, centuries after her death, - Rome is very slow ... - We simply say katholisch, and not römisch-katholisch unless very official, - that's just my background. No idea how her name would have been pronounced back then, Hunny-nunny makes sense, like honey. - Now to work: it's - afaik - a saint, but Saint Hunegund, when using it as kind of a title, which I'd expect in the infobox. - I was behind 6 qpq until yesterday, no need to say sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
