Talk:Ivan Moody

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Lead[edit]

Start of article: "born January 7, 1975" Personal Life: "Although born in Denver, Colorado on January 7, 1980," There is a discrepancy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.118.34.51 (talk) 01:13, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

I added a Notability template. Specificially, I can't find any evidence of the 2004 "Hit Parader" Award other than the mention on what appears to be a site run by the subject of the article himself. Also, the entry for "Motograter," (the band that supposedly won the award) doesn't even mention a "Hit Parader" award. Meghann 03:24, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing the notability tag, as any person knows that Blabbermouth.net is NOT run by Ivan Moody, but run by Borivoj "Bori" Krgin. -- Shatterzer0 04:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 November 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was proposed in this section that Ivan Moody (vocalist) be renamed and moved to Ivan Moody.

result:
Moved. Support has gained significantly since relisting, so consensus is to rename. Kudos to editors for your input, and Happy, Healthy Publishing! (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 05:48, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Links: current log • target log • direct move

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Ivan Moody (vocalist) → Ivan Moody – See the page views in the last 30 days for the vocalist (30,981 views) and the composer (127 views) -- BlueJag (talk) 01:14, 3 November 2020 (UTC) —Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 04:20, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:52, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@BlueJag and Necrothesp: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:53, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Hardly uncontroversial. Not exactly incredibly well-known. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:51, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Primary topic isn't just about page views, but also about long-term significance. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:34, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose in books the composer is far more significant. [1] obviously the lead vocalist of a heavy metal band is going to get more hits than a composer, which is why Primary Topic is not based on page views. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:37, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 20:15, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Zero benefit to the change, and will require link changes, and will break offsite and downstream uses. Leave as is. An ambiguous basename title should not be a reward for more recent pageviews. With both disambiguated, no reader will get the wrong biography. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:49, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This is a WP:TWODABS situation and the reason we have hat notes. -- Calidum 21:42, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- TWODABS only applies where there is a clear primary topic. There isn't one here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:08, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Calidum. The DAB page is viewed more than the composer, indicating the current setup isn't what readers want. The singer gets 99% of pageviews my count. This is a very obvious primary topic. Nohomersryan (talk) 05:12, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. Whatever long-term significance the composer has, it can't outweigh a 99-1 pageview advantage for the singer article. Why make things unnecessarily more difficult on our readers and editors? Dohn joe (talk) 16:30, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per the enormous difference in page views. As Calidum says, this is a WP:TWODABS situation. kennethaw88 • talk 04:33, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.