Talk:Jenny Randerson, Baroness Randerson

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Requested move

No consensus for move

No clear consensus for move after a reasonable time for discussion. SilkTork *^YES! 21:45, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jenny Randerson → Jenny Randerson, Baroness Randerson.

Oppose - Not known by the title of for being a peer. Far more well known as a Welsh Assembly Member and for being one of the Welsh acting Deputy First Ministers and Welsh Culture Secretary.--Lucy-marie (talk) 14:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support. WP:NCPEER is quite clear. This peeress is no longer wholly or exclusively known by her pre-peerage nomenclature. Kittybrewster ☎ 15:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose in the strongest possible terms for consistency in naming per policy and guidelines like WP:COMMONNAME, WP:TITLE, WP:D and WP:PRECISION that apply to all Wikipedia article titles. The subject is most commonly known by the current title; adding peerage information is additional precision that is completely unnecessary, all good reasons to ignore WP:NCPEER. --Born2cycle (talk) 20:07, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

B2C's arguments are bogus, because the policy WP:TITLE explicitly permits topic-specific naming conventions such as WP:NCPEER. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - likely to remain best known under her non-titled name for some time yet. Deb (talk) 12:40, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Politicians who have been ennobled are almost invariably known by their titles thereafter. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - This is not a Crystal Ball and what they are currently known is what we have to take as the current commonly used name. If in the future the individual is known regularly by their ennobled title then that would be grounds to change the article title. To though say, it is expected that the names they are known by will change is not how things work on Wikipeida.--Lucy-marie (talk) 17:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - this proposed title is utter nonsense (it would combine the colloquial forename with the hyperformal form of the title); if people think that NCPEER recommends this kind of title, then all that proves is that NCPEER is warped.--Kotniski (talk) 09:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - following guidelines in WP:COMMONNAME, which is also allowed within WP:NCPEER. One day she might be equally as well known for her peerage title, but until then her common name takes priority. Zangar (talk) 13:21, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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