Talk:Joanna I of Naples
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- I decided to cut the thing down. Previous text is in History, if someone cares to have a look... muriel@pt 16:32, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- The mention here of the brothel, which makes Joan sound like a glorified madam, doesn't make much sense to me (in fact, I don't know if it deserves a mention at all in this article). What the text says is that "on August 8, 1347 she opened a large brothel on the property in Avignon . . . She later sold all the property in Avignon to Pope Clement VI, effectively ending the prostitution trade in Avignon".
- To my reckoning, she sold Avignon to Clement VI in 1348; that would make the brothel so short-lived as to be historically negligible, surely. On the other hand, I suspect that not only were there brothels in Avignon before this but that — human nature being what it is — they continued to operate under Clement VI (the chances of the prostitution trade in Avignon having been suddenly ended by Clement VI, of all people, seem to me laughable).
- And what is meant by "the property" in one sentence, as opposed to "all the property" in the next? Is it the palace, the town, or the whole domain sold by Joan? It's not clear. OK, it's possible that if Clement VI moved into the very building where a brothel was in full swing, the old boy, notoriously corrupt though he was, may indeed have sent the prostitutes packing with a papal flea in their ears - but they'd probably just have shifted along the road.
- On the face of it, Joan's sale of Avignon seems an impetuous and irresponsible act. It is partly explained by her need for the antipope's support; but I wonder how much effect the Black Death was having at this moment, in 1348. Perhaps Avignon had simply turned into a hell-hole; maybe Joan's income there had entirely dried up.
--qp10qp 18:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
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I had the same thoughts regarding the brothel. In general, I would like to find a very good scholarly work on the Angevin Family in Naples during this period, or on Joan I of Naples. I would really like to track down the correspondence of Joan of Naples to the Pope. I am sure that many actual documents were lost in WWII, but diplomatic editions must exist. I will write again as soon as I find anything.
firstname.lastname@example.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs) 14:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Name correction and missing history
The correct name should be "Joanna" as is listed in all references and documents of antiquity that I am familiar with for this queen. She also had several other titles some inherited by way of marriage.
. While this is not a bad article on Queen Joanna I of Napples, it lacks much important data on her life that well supported by historical evidences and documentation She was a very religious person and while it is true she did not always like the man, she respected his calling as Pope and was a great aid to the papacy during her many years of reign. During this time there were in fact several different popes, and a great controversy involving the rightful calling of one, due to threats made on the cardinals. Joanna helped to correct the error of the wrong man stepping into the robes of the pope. To all the other Popes, She was a great support to the them and his inner circle. She had personal interaction with the popes by way of visits and letters. She gave suggestions and support, great amounts of financial aid and donations especially in the Popes time of need. Along with this she also provided military aid, even transportation via her ships and men to help get the Pope out of Rome a few problem times. She restationed Pope in France possibly more than once hoping to move the church headquarters ther.
Her relationships with her family, especially that of her husbands is sketchy in your work, and important pieces of her history. supporting data is missing, but does exist. Her deep concern to produce an heir was paramount and yet with great diplomacy she did many great works during her reighn during those dark ages when horrible plagues, poverty, and evil pursued. She was noted for helping the people of her country as well as the building of churches. One such church or rather monestary she commissioned is still standing today and now used as a museum of fine arts and history as well as performances. This is the Certosa of Capi, on the isle of Capri. Queen Joanna commissioned San Giacomo Arcucci as architect, a man also noted as being one of her close footmen or ambassadors. A beautiful fresco still exists in an arched alcove above the Certosa chapel doors. It shows a beautiful Queen Joanna kneeling on the right side of the Madonna sitting on a grand throne, and holding a standing Christ child. To the Holy Family's left kneels San Giacomo Arcucci, extending a model like Certosa to The Mother and Child for acceptance. Around the throne are also two saints, I believe both James and John, and above them all is the Holy Spirit as well as angels.
My interests and research in these matters have been raised due to the fact that I am a direct ancestor of San Giacomo Arcucci, who was bequeathed the Isle of Capri by his queen for his good works which included the Certosa. While I am not a historian proper, I would be happy to be of assistance in helping to supply documentation and other needs to bring this page up to date. Today I write all this from my iPad, which makes it hard for me to copy and paste, flip from one screen to another with out losing data on this page. Working from my computer would be much easier, but is not possible right now. I felt it important however, to make these lengthybnotations as tey are, hoping to bring interest in making coections and enhancing this page. If not done today i feared i would later forget. Please forgive my bloopers and if I have not followed protocol. Your details of protocol etc. Are extremely lengthy and difficult to follow. I do enjoy the access to Wikipedia and the valuable information it supplies for free. Thank you for this wonderful service. Having quality and true information is of extreme importance in the continuation of wikipedia. Thank you, Smilenhappy (talk) 18:39, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Final resting place
Which event came first?
This wedding was opposed by her former brother-in-law and Margaret's stepfather Philip II, Prince of Taranto; when he died in November 1374, he bequeathed his claims to his brother-in-law Francis of Baux, Duke of Andria, and his son James. François laid claim by force the property of the deceased, who had been reverted to the crown. Joanna then confiscated his property by grounds of lèse-majesté on 8 April 1374.