Talk:Jose Canseco

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Jose Canseco article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Sports and Games

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	Sports portal This article is supported by the sports and games work group (assessed as Mid-importance).

Baseball: Red Sox / Yankees / Blue Jays High‑importance

	Baseball portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Baseball, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of baseball on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.BaseballWikipedia:WikiProject BaseballTemplate:WikiProject BaseballBaseball articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Boston Red Sox (assessed as Mid-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject New York Yankees (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Toronto Blue Jays (assessed as Mid-importance).

Mixed martial arts

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Mixed martial arts, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of mixed martial arts concepts, events, and biographies on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Mixed martial artsWikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial artsTemplate:WikiProject Mixed martial artsmixed martial arts articles

Chicago Low‑importance

	Chicago portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Chicago, which aims to improve all articles or pages related to Chicago or the Chicago metropolitan area.ChicagoWikipedia:WikiProject ChicagoTemplate:WikiProject ChicagoChicago articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Illinois Low‑importance

	Illinois portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Illinois, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Illinois on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IllinoisWikipedia:WikiProject IllinoisTemplate:WikiProject IllinoisWikiProject Illinois articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States: Texas Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Texas portal This article is supported by WikiProject Texas (assessed as Low-importance).

Cuba Mid‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cuba, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Cuba related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CubaWikipedia:WikiProject CubaTemplate:WikiProject CubaCuba articles

Mid

This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Cuba task list:

Task list

New article announcements:
Requests: Ambrosio Cave, Calero Cave, Centella Cave, Cuba and the United Nations, Cuevas de Punta del Este, Cura Cave, Patana Cave, Pluma Cave
Stubs: Dollar store (Cuba)
Verify: History of Cuba, Fulgencio Batista
Update: Nochebuena
NPOV: Armando Valladares, Delfín Fernández, History of Cuba
Copyedit: Armando Peraza, Bay of Pigs Invasion, Fabio Grobart, Julio Antonio Mella
Cleanup: Abelardo Colomé Ibarra, Antonio Maceo Grajales, Bay of Pigs Invasion, History of Cuba, List of Cubans, Máximo Gómez, War against the Bandits
Style: Fidel Castro
Expand: Cuba–Soviet Union relations, Baseball in Cuba, Religion in Cuba, Havana's International Book Fair, Cuba–Venezuela relations, Antonio Sánchez de Bustamante y Sirven

High School infortmation

Jose Canseco attended Miami Coral Park Senior High School. --Primetimeking 04:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary phrase?

Why include the phrase "did not attend college on a baseball scholarship"?... it is necessary to confirm information in the negative? Do you need to inform people by denying something they wouldn´t necessarily assume otherwise?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.248.214.99 (talk • contribs) 15:56, 11 March 2006.

Career with Expos

In 2002, Canseco signed a contract, a minor-league contract I believe, but never played a game for the 'Spos 172.166.91.139 21:32, 30 June 2006 (UTC)Nick22aku[reply]

Recentism a bit out of hand... Including the Surf Dogs in his bio box would mean including every minor league team he has played for. Also, considering the Surf Dogs are the lowest of the lowest professional baseball levels, you might as well include every team he has ever played for in his life. Nick22aku 18:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If no one objects, I plan on removing the Expos (2002) and of course the Surf Dogs (2006) in the bio box since he never played with the Expos and Surf Dogs are not a major league team. Nick22aku 19:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine, I don't think he ever played a regular season game for the Angels either. Also, he just got traded from the Surf Dogs, so maybe that should be updated anyway.--Burgwerworldz 22:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He played pre-season exhibition games for both the Expos and the Angels, so that should be included. The Surf Dawgs and Armada are not major league teams so they should not be included.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.125.2.111 (talk • contribs) 03:21, 12 July 2006.

The above assertion is false. This article is cited and linked. The rationale appears more than adquate. The image is restored into restored "Steriods" section where it is most relevant. – Conrad T. Pino (talk) 17:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Clean up the trivia

Someone needs to pull the trivia section out of the article and/or incorporate the sourced info into it.
Also, can anyone who's more familiar with formatting explain why the edit by User:96.227.36.145 nuked the bottom part (see also, refs, boxes) of the article? Thanks, dfg (talk) 17:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Must mention steroids in first/intro paragraph

Canseco's name = Steroids (among other things.) That first paragraph has to be edited to mention that somehow.

CraigP (talk) 15:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was just coming to this talk page to say this. A one paragraph lead for this article is too short as it is, and the lead really needs to discuss steroids based on his prominent involvement in the issue. This needs to be done. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:07, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What's Accurate and What's Not?

I'm confused about a couple entries in the current article. First off, it says Jose left Cuba when he and Ozzie were infants. However, I've heard that his family came to America in the 1970s. Does this mean that they lived somewhere else from the mid-60s to the 1970s? My second concern has a little editoralizing, so I apologize in advance. In the categories section, it lists "People who attempted suicide" as one of the categories. Is this true, or is this someone's sick idea of a joke? There's nothing about that in the article. I'd never heard of any suicide attempt by Jose, and it seems he can't spit on the sidewalk without everyone talking about it. Also, I know that there are people who make up stories like that to get some kind of sick kick. I'd need a relaible source before I'll believe it really happened. Evernut (talk) 15:04, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and removed the "People who attempted suicide" category as I've heard absolutely nothing to verify it. Evernut (talk) 16:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just read a story where he considered suicide, but that's not attempting. Wknight94 ^talk 16:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2013

"Jose Canseco joins the long list of men who resort to the idiotic defense that they can "get" women without force "

Nobody “needs” to rape salon.com. 84.152.49.236 (talk) 21:18, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Personal Life

Only the more lurid events are described. He was married at least twice, divorced at least once, and has at least one daughter who lives with ??? This material should be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nigelrg (talk • contribs) 00:24, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gun Accident

An update is needed to this article.

It should include the details of his injuries after shooting himself in the hand with his loaded semiautomatic handgun.

Ammobox (talk) 16:57, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Jose Canseco. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/20141029074006/http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/report-canseco-shoots-off-finger-cleaning-gun/ar-BBbOu8k to http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/report-canseco-shoots-off-finger-cleaning-gun/ar-BBbOu8k

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 20:28, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on Jose Canseco. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 08:23, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Jose Canseco. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 21:29, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Accent or no accent on the e in Jose

This edit has brought up the following question from me: Does he use the accent or not when spelling out his name? I see on the CommonsCategory and the lead paragraph that the accent is visible as well as in the "Performance-enhancing drugs" section. I'm not sure if that should remain there or drop the accent entirely. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 11:21, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If I'm reading MOS:DIACRITICS correctly, Wikipedia policy is to retain diacritics in proper names, "if used by the subject". Used or not, they should be consistent within the article. That being said, Canseco appears to spell his name without the acute accent, if you go by his Twitter page, his books, and most articles. I'm sure some editors feel strongly about it either way, and it probably hasn't come up because it would be hard to justify based on Canseco himself or secondary sources. I would suggest we leave it alone, since the article is pretty stable. But the article should use either "Jose" or "José" consistently, above all else. Matuko (talk) 18:37, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Short description

I suggest changing the short description to "Cuban-American Major League Baseball player". He's lived here since he was one year old! Matuko (talk) 18:07, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:James Mackenzie (actor) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 11:35, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]