Talk:K. M. Peyton

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I have a copy of the book 'Fly by Night' and the author on the cover is K M Peyton. This article gives no evidence as to whether Christine Pullein-Thompson was actually the author. Comments? Ashfan83 19:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Whoever changed the text back to say that the book 'Fly-by-Night' was written by Christine Pullein-Thompson, I have changed it back to 'alleged' because unless you can provide some evidence for this in the form of a book reference or web page you cannot really state this in an encylopedia article. Ashfan83 13:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

It would also be useful if someone could put the date of Michael Peytons birth (and death if applicable). Ashfan83 19:59, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I find the reference to Christine Pullein-Thompson writing Fly-by-night baffling. Fly-by-Night was written by K M Peyton and characters in it appear in later books in the series. The writing style is significantly different to that of Christine Pullein-Thompson, and Fly-by-Night contains illustraions by K M Peyton, consistent with her illustrative style in later books. Can anyone furnish ANY evidence to suggest any confusion? Other than that Christine published a title called Ride by Night? Kesrah 01:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd also be interested in evidence of the 'Husband and wife team' this is the only place I have seen that. Can anyone point me to a reference for this? Kesrah 01:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I find more evidence for Christine Pullein-Thompson not being the author of 'Fly-by-Night', such as the fact that the book was published by Oxford University Press, as were all of K M Peyton's novels of the 60s and 70s. As far as I know, none of the Pullein-Thompson sisters were on their lists. The copies of 'Fly-by-Night' (1968) and 'The Team' (1975) in my possession both say "from the author of Flambards", Ruth Hollis later appears in the Pennington series, and Peter McNair and Jonathan Meredith later appear in 'Prove Yourself A Hero' (1977), 'A Midsummer Night's Death' (1978), and 'The Last Ditch'. For the first appearance of Ruth and Peter to have been in a book by another author, and for them to have then gone on to be recurring characters in so many other books, would have seemed bizarre indeed. Jules L 16:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the publication date for 'A Pattern of Roses', since 2000 is definitely wrong (probably a reprint). There was a TV movie made of it in 1983, and memory tells me that it was published in the mid-70's. My copy is missing at the moment; I'll put the correct date in when I find it.

I've also added the Jonathan Meredith titles and grouped the two Ruth Hollis ones as a series, putting them in suggested reading order, since they and the Pennington books have related characters. This has involved reinstating 'Fly-by-Night'. I understand that a new edition of the book, with an introduction by Kathleen Peyton, is due to be published by Fidra Books in late 2006/early 2007, which would seem to prove authorship beyond doubt.

As for the 'husband and wife team' reference, I have found the following information which may clarify the situation with regard to the pseudonym: [1]. All the books listed in the entry were written after 'Windfall', so would seem to have been written by Kathleen Peyton solo. Jules L 13:04, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


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Does she consider her nationality English or British? Here she has been called British in the lead sentence; placed in British and English categories. Flambards calls her English in the lead sentence. The first two novels are in British categories.

For consistency I have deleted the English category here (it should be one or the other) and I will make her British or nothing in the Flambards lead this hour. British nationality fits the publisher Oxford, by definition, and thus matches {{infobox book}}, so it's a good place to start, and it reflects the majority usage of past editors. If she considers herself English, say so here and change all text and categories. Reference: WP:UKNATIONALS.

--P64 (talk) 15:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Pony books[edit]

I have deleted Category:Pony books, planning to put the book articles rather than the biography there. Now I see that it contains more biographies, fewer book articles, perhaps because most of the pony books are covered only in the biographies. Anyway I'll restore K.M. Peyton and add Flambards this hour.

The category preface should be revised to explain its purpose in this respect, evidently to cover both authors and their works. --P64 (talk) 15:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Guardian Prize[edit]

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The Guardian published a list of past winners in 2000 [ref name=relaunch/] which is our only reference at Guardian Children's Fiction Prize. One of the listings is

  • "1970: KM Peyton for Flambards (Oxford University Press)"

The novel Flambards was published in 1967, the second and third books in 1969. The award officially recognises work published during the preceding calendar year and any exception incredible to me. I suppose she won the 1970 Prize for the second or third book, or for the entire trilogy (a novelty but not incredible to me). --P64 (talk) 15:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Her own website says she won the Prize for the series.[2] So I'll say that at Flambards. --P64 (talk) 16:01, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


1. If I understand correctly, the U.S. Library of Congress references (and holds?) a 1952 edition of The Mandrake (1949) by Kathleen Herald that is published as by Kathleen Wendy Herald.[3]

(not yet combined with other U.S. records)[4]

2. Regarding {KM, K M, K.M., K. M.} does anyone know how much consistency is appropriate on this page? Perhaps we should use "K. M.", as in the pagename, everywhere except in titles that use another form. That would include External links where we do not display target titles.

Today while visiting for another purpose I replaced some but not all other forms by "K. M." but I did not follow any policy strictly (even missed one in prose). --P64 (talk) 20:54, 19 May 2013 (UTC)