Talk:Kauai

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Tourism[edit]

I am generally of a mind to simply delete the material on this page about tourist attractions on Kaua'i as not encyclopedic, even while mindful that most Wikipedians have that as their only experience with the Hawaiian Islands. However, I note there are pages on Tourism, so I've created a Tourism in Hawaii for this sort of thing and moved it there. Look at Tourism in Hawaii#Kauai. Marshman 08:22, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Touring Five Regions[edit]

I think this material recently added is appropriate for WikiTravel or the article on Tourism on Kauai - Marshman 17:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Reverting Photo Pages[edit]

I'm unclear why you are reverting the addition of external links to photo pages. These appear not to be commercial in nature. There is no general rule that external links are to be removed, unless they are commercial in nature. Please explain? - Marshman 01:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

History[edit]

The text linking the widespread prevalence of chickens to the 1992 hurricane strikes me as odd, because I observed chickens roaming free when I visited the island in 1984. In fact, I was awakened by the crowing of roosters each of the 5 mornings I spent there. One of the explanations I was given at the time for free-ranging 'domestic' animals was that 19th century sailors made a practice of setting mating groups of animals loose on islands, in hopes that on a later voyage, they would find the animals had multiplied, providing a local source of meat for the returning seamen.Okie Born 18:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps both accounts are correct. I've searched around and it seems that chickens were often kept in backyards before the hurricane (probably holdover generations) and inevitably some got out and reproduced. However it appears that it is a fact that all the chicken farms on the island were destroyed during Iniki, which made them so abundant as they are today. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jgladding (talkcontribs) 20:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC).
well, actually, the abundance of chickens due to Iniki is false. the chicken population down here has always been high, ever since they were brought by the accient Polynesians and other foreigners. You see, the other islands all have mongoose, which decimates the bird populations on the other islands. But we don't, er? I mean Kauai doesn't. so given time, with little predators to keep them in check, the popultaions been flourishing on this island Aoikumo 02:02, 01 May 2007 (UTC)
Personal Research, I know. I grew up on Kauai from 1958-1968. There were moa (wild chickens or jungle fowl) on the island, mostly in Kokee, and in fairly small numbers, especially when contrasted to the numbers post-Iniki, and especially in the lowlands. Even Hurricane Dot (1959) and Hurricane Iwa (1982) did not not do as much as Iniki to increase the chicken population. It would be interesting to get data from wildlife zoologists, ornithologists and others on this matter.--DaKine 22:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't really know, but all the sources I've seen seem to indicate that there have "always" been moa and/or chickens on the island, but the number of chickens in the lowlands has massively increased since Iniki. Your mileage may vary, but that seems to be the general consensus of multiple sources... Davidlwilliamson (talk) 07:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
That section of text should probably be rewritten, then. As it stands now, it’s not clear that the hurricane and the chickens have anything to do with each other; it appears to be two unrelated statements: one to say that Iniki may have had an indirect influence in Kauaʻi’s ecosystem; and a separate statement that the chickens on Kauaʻi came from the original Polynesian settlers. (This discrepancy was, incidentally, the only reason I even visited the discussion page—to find out what the indirect change on the ecosystem was) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.236.56.150 (talk) 11:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Pronunciation[edit]

Kaua'i, I think, is generally erroneously assumed to rhyme with Hawai'i outside of the island, and I think the Cow-eye pronounciation is simply a pidgin version of a Hawai'ian word. --Stormj 17:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

So what do you suggest is the correct pronunciation? - Marshman 18:13, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
The correct pronunciation is 3 syllables, like this "Cow-a-ee". In Hawaiian, the apostrophe produces a glottal stop, which splits the "ai" diphthong into two syllables, as it does in Hawai'i, which is also 3 syllables. The "au" is already a diphthong so it doesn't need the apostrophe to separate it from the next "a". I think I have a book on this somewhere which I actually bought in Kapa'a in 1997. Slowmover 16:54, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
hehe, home sweet home...actually, no one is entirely sure which one it correct, there's big debate about if it's cock-eye or cow-a-ee, even among the naturalist Hawaiian population. Growing up there, er? here though, I always thought that cow-a-ee was the correct, lol. and it's the most widely assumed one =P Aoikumo 1:53, 01 May 2007 (UTC)
The only debate regarding pronunciation being "cow-eye or cow-a-ee" seems to take place among people who don't speak Hawaiian. Both are incorrect. --Zzsnow3ater (talk) 07:34, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
And Hawai'i too properly has three syllables: how a 'ee, with the 'okina representing a glottal stop. Captain Cook, when he arrived there, transcribed the name as Owyhee. Awien (talk) 03:26, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Needed History[edit]

In 1818, Dr. Schäffer, a Russian entrepreneur, occupied Kauai and negotiated a treaty of protection with the island's governor Kaumualii, vassal of King Kamehameha I of Hawaii, but the Russian Tsar refused to ratify the treaty.

-G —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.231.32.127 (talkcontribs) 12:59, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

Ordering of cities/towns[edit]

This might seem retentive, but the lists of important towns and interesting places both seem rather random. Perhaps they should be ordered in some useful fashion. For the towns, by population might seem natural, but I would propose that we instead list towns from one end of the island to the other, so they are more or less geographic in order. Given the linear nature of the highway system, a list from Haena to Hana might be useful. (Or Hanalei to Kekaha...) Something similar could be done with the places of interest, too, although not all of them are necessarily on the highway, so they aren't quite as linear. Opinions solicited! Davidlwilliamson (talk) 07:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I apparently felt motivated, as I have a new ordering of the towns put together. I'll insert that in a moment. Discussion still welcome, of course, but it seemed like a good idea. Davidlwilliamson (talk) 08:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Economy[edit]

Can we get a section added under "Economy"?

Something to list what the major business activities are, the job generators. It seems agriculture is big; any idea what type of crops? The missile facility probably generates a lot of local expenditure. Somewhere I read there are 70 military housing units, so there's at least 70 military staff, but probably a lot of local civilians work there. Also, the tourist industry -- how many hotels, how many rooms, how many jobs?

It's usually desirable, when you have a Wiki article on a particular geographic area, to include a section on "Economy", even if it is just rudimentary and has no stats. But stats (eg: $) are always welcome too.

--Atikokan (talk) 22:16, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I started one. Stwiso (talk) 20:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Geography, Etymology etc sections[edit]

I created these to follow the format of the Article on Hawaii, then I moved some existing Kauai text into the new sections —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stwiso (talkcontribs) 22:30, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Image of Beach thru palms NaPali coast[edit]

It's an attractive picture, but those are not palms. They are Pandanus tectorius also known as screwpine or Hala in Hawaiian. DaKine (talk) 07:28, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

True enough, and the lizards on Maui love to bask on them. Perhaps you should change the caption or contact the original uploader? Viriditas (talk) 07:51, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
I removed it. We've got way too many images already. Viriditas (talk) 08:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Kawai Link[edit]

Is the Kawai company link at the top too commercially direct? It seems out of wikipedi styling and doesn't forward to a disambiguation page like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawai_(disambiguation) if we are really looking to be helpful for people misspelling Kawai as Kauai. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.53.83.41 (talk) 06:05, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Kauai/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Brief introduction to the island needs expansion with Kauai-related topics. —Viriditas

Last edited at 09:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 20:59, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Zuckerberg[edit]

Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg owns land on Kaui. http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/facebooks-zuckerberg-sues-hundreds-of-hawaiians-to-force-property-sales-to-him/ar-AAm1TvX Olivier Mengué |  08:54, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Okina in the article conforms to MOS[edit]

Please refer to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Hawaii-related articles. I have reverted the edits that removed the ʻOkina from the article. The ʻOkina conforms to the MOS for Hawaii articles. Questions? - Please discuss at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Hawaii-related articles, and do not alter individual articles. Thank you. — Maile (talk) 00:11, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

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Kokeo Point[edit]

I think there is a mistake in the Kokeo Point reference. Besides the fact that I cannot find a place by this name along the south shore the link brings you to Koke'e headland, correctly located on the north shore.Bassrolf (talk) 12:57, 12 December 2017 (UTC)